The Official Rules of Server War and Terms of Engagement.

[trugreatness20]

The Rules and Terms of Engagement:

Ok folks it is here. The fight for ultimate FPS supremacy between three powerhouses (Great Lakes, Banff, and Armageddon) will be guided by the rules in the following post.

All of these should be upheld to the tee. If anyone feels otherwise you can feel free to bow out at anytime, just remember you are letting your server down.

The Teams:
There will be a team for each of the three servers, each team must consist of;

1) 24 people total. The break down will work like this; 15 players as starters and there will be three subs in each style.
2) Each team must only consist of players that pledge their loyalty to their server and are on the master list created in the thread “Pledge your Loyalty to a Server”.
3) Each team will have their own TAO forum thread consisting of their finalized roster by May 4, 2008 (5/4/2008), the order of this roster will not matter because before the battles start match-ups will be set up based off of line-ups sent in by captains two days before a round.
4) Each player on each team should have an account in the server clan created by their captains. This will avoid the use of secondaries. If you do not put an account in your server clan, the account you will be using must be clearly stated. If it is not stated in this official thread and in your PM’s you may not use it. One account may only be used in all your games no switching back and forth.


Example:

Team X: Captain: *****

Freestyle:
1)****
2)****
3)****
4)****
5)****
Freestyle Reserves:
6)****
7)****
8)****

Turtle:
1)****
2)****
3)****
4)****
5)****
Turtle Reserves:
6)****
7)****
8)****

Grey:
1)****
2)****
3)****
4)****
5)****
Grey Reserves:
6)****
7)****
8)****

The Battles:

When the battles begin each server will face off against each other. Great Lakes will play Banff and Armageddon simultaneously, Armageddon will play Great Lakes and Banff simulatneously, and Banff will play Armageddon and Great Lakes simultaneously. This is how it will work:

1) Each round will be 5 v. 5 in each style until one teams style is completely depleted. (ie. Banff’s free section has no players left after taking out 6 of Great Lake’s freestylers). If say one team has 4 turtlers left and the other team has 6, two players will have to sit out and may not be allocated to any other style. (If Armageddon has a full free section, but only three turtlers left, the excess free section will have to sit.)
2) Once each style is depleted the battles will break down into all around contests. (Great Lakes has three turtlers left and two greys, their freestyle section is considered depleted when no one is left) Players will be thrown up against one another, but the style will be random and announced two days before the round begins. It will cycle like this; First style announced will be random, then in the following round one of the other two styles not previously used will be played and then the final style will be played. It will continue to cycle like this.
3) All match-ups, in the stylized rounds, will be determined by rosters sent through PM’s by captains to myself or the Professor?. If PM’s are not sent in on time the roster will be randomized and match-ups will be made that way. In the all around contests match-ups will be randomized (no PM’s needed),





Example of a Stylized round:

Team X v. Team Z
Freestyle.
1) **** v. ****
2) **** v. ****
3) **** v. ****
4) **** v. ****
5) **** v. ****

Example of a Stylized round with in-even numbers: (Team X has 4 turtlers, 6 free, 0 grey, Team Z 4 turtlers, 2 free, 5 grey.)

Freestyle
1) **** v. ****
2) **** v. ****
Free Reserves
****
****
****
****

Turtle
1) **** v. ****
2) **** v. ****
3) **** v. ****
4) **** v. ****

Grey Reserves
****
****
****
****
****

Example of a all around style round:

Team X v. Team Z

Style Selected: Turtle

**** v. ****
**** v. ****
**** v. ****


The Fights:

1) All battles will be dropless.
2) Matches must be set up by sending good PM’s (times on specific days, time zones, and some friendly trash talk are mandatory)
3) Games will be played on accounts stated in your PM’s and in the round threads.
4) No secondaries will be used in for battles.
5) Disconnections will be resolved in two ways depending on player preference; a) replay the game if the person who d/ced was still in the battle b) reset the pieces and pick up where you left off, with waits and HP’s taken into account.
6) Anyone failing to send a good PM will be disqualified. If you both send good PM’s and you miss an arranged time you will be disqualified if you do not get your game in before the deadline.


In the Event of a three way tie (each team has a 1-1 record):Teams will follow the point differential rule. The two teams with the highest point differential between their win and their loss will move on and duke it out for first place.

Example of the point differential rule:
Gl vs. Army = Army +4
Army vs. Banff = Banff +3
Gl vs. Banff = GL + 6

So....GL won by 6 but lost by 4, meaning they had a plus 2 rating.

Banff won by 3 but lost by 6 giving them a -3 rating.

Army won by 4 but lost by 3 giving them a +1 rating.

Since GL and Army have the highest ratings, They square off.


Rosters for the actual teams will need to be finalized and in the individual server threads by 5/4/2008. Once that is taken care of matches will be posted that following Monday when we have received PM’s from the captains with the order of who will be playing in what style.

If these guidelines set forth are not followed, players who infringe on these rules will be kicked out from the tournament. All players who intend to pest the two tournament hosts will be kicked after a warning. Don’t cause drama there is no need for it in this tournament, we all just want to have a good time. Enjoy yourselves and let the games being!

[trugreatness20]

Reserved for rosters due 5/4/2008.

[The Anti]

W00t! Let's do this thing!

[Rubbish]

Now that's totally different.
Good Luck.

[Shiznit]

Sweeeeeeeet.

[Nitanius Nolund]

You are from Army. Therefore reading this post is not worth the time of a player from an elite server such as Great Lakes.

Let's do this :cool:

[pils]

In the case of a 3 way tie what if the point differentials are equal as well? For example, army beats banff by 3, but loses to GL by 3. And GL loses to Banff by 3 as well.

[trugreatness20]

Mmm good point, we will cross that bridge when that happens. I doubt it will though. I am up for suggestions on that topic, i feel the rest of the terms of engagement are fair and straight forward.

[I'malive24/7]

Great, I'ma be stuck as a sub in grey...Oh boy, such excitement.

By the way, what's the point of subs if you are just going to DQ anyway?

[xEaglex]

I strongly believe that 3 subs for each style is too much. We should have 6 starters and 2 subs, or 7 and 1. I am in favor of 7 and 1.

Server pools are big. Starting lineups should be big as well.

I'm big.

[I'malive24/7]

7 and 1 is a good idea if you ask me.

[trugreatness20]

These are the rules and they are set in stone. No one complained about being benched for PSST, please dont for this as well. 5 per round will make things fast and move quickly, subs will get to play unless your section dominates (which is unlikely).

[Wisher]

llrich can you go on im great atm? Need to give clan to that account i think.

[pils]

I think 6 and 2 would be best...
edit: These are the rules and they are set in stone. No one complained about being benched for PSST, please dont for this as well. 5 per round will make things fast and move quickly, subs will get to play unless your section dominates (which is unlikely).

Having a bench is different from having subs.

[xEaglex]

PSST guaranteed you to play eventually, even on the bench. In this, war subs will probably never play ever, since the top 5 players in each style will most definitely be active as well.

[trugreatness20]

Whether you play or not is ultimately up to your captain. But everyone will play eventually, because if you guys read the rules after the stylized rounds comes the all around rounds. Please read again carefully.

[shurtugal]

*cough shurt for grey*

[Nitanius Nolund]

Maybe I'm wrong in this, but maybe llrich is saying that all 8 players have to be defeated. Take a look at the following:

Player A
Player B
Player C
Player D
Player E
Player F
Player G

Subs:

Player H
Player I
Player J

Round starts, and for some reason Player E goes AWOL, so Player H is subbed in. At the end of the round the following players are left:

Player B
Player D
Player F

The three subs would then be put in so that there are 6 people in that style. All six of whom need to be defeated before that section is over.

[Boreal]

If you actually need 3 subs in every style, then I will be amazed. Maybe 4 total subs who can play whatever style is needed?

[xEaglex]

Oh, so subs aren't always subs?

The rules are just so complicated I got confused....

[Sacred Silence]

*cough shurt for grey*

-cough- I > You.

[Boreal]

*cough* Shurt=nubmuffin *cough* :D

[trugreatness20]

The subs will work like the bench similar to PSST, i dont get how people arent seeing this. Say three of the five starters in a free sction lose, they are replace by the three subs in the next round so that their team can have a full five to play in the next round. Once a teams section has no players left it is considered depleted, and all the remaining players (subs and starters) for the opposing team's section (the victors) will wait and move onto the all around round.

[Boreal]

The subs will work like the bench similar to PSST, i dont get how people arent seeing this. Say three of the five starters in a free sction lose, they are replace by the three subs in the next round so that their team can have a full five to play in the next round. Once a teams section has no players left it is considered depleted, and all the remaining players (subs and starters) for the opposing team's section (the victors) will wait and move onto the all around round.

Wow. I'm overanalyzing the entire thing. I thought those subs were for DQ's :rolleyes:
What if four people lose? Do they play with the four they have or automatically lose?<--- Ignore, I found something in the rules.

[xEaglex]

In that case, these rules rock!

[I'malive24/7]

ok, yeah, good rules, I guess i skipped that part :P

[Nitanius Nolund]

The subs will work like the bench similar to PSST, i dont get how people arent seeing this. Say three of the five starters in a free sction lose, they are replace by the three subs in the next round so that their team can have a full five to play in the next round. Once a teams section has no players left it is considered depleted, and all the remaining players (subs and starters) for the opposing team's section (the victors) will wait and move onto the all around round.

Maybe I'm wrong in this, but maybe llrich is saying that all 8 players have to be defeated. Take a look at the following:

Player A
Player B
Player C
Player D
Player E
Player F
Player G

Subs:

Player H
Player I
Player J

Round starts, and for some reason Player E goes AWOL, so Player H is subbed in. At the end of the round the following players are left:

Player B
Player D
Player F

The three subs would then be put in so that there are 6 people in that style. All six of whom need to be defeated before that section is over.

:cool:

Didn't even read the rules and I knew that.

[abhimanu]

it makes sense...

[Magician]

It makes sense, and having "subs" rather than a "bench" means we captains can not play as tactically as in PSST nearer the end rounds. (Like throwing Shinok Rubbish instead of Prof in the final round) Apart from that, and the following question, all seems well with me.

Can I be n00bish and ask if we're allowed to alter individual player styles between rounds? Say, for example, detonation freestyled in the first round and won, could he then go on to turtle in the 2nd round instead of sticking to free?

[trugreatness20]

They are stuck in the section you place them in, until we get to the all around part of the battle. I know this limits the captains strategy, but the captains in this are more of team managers and are there for team moral.

[Nitanius Nolund]

I've decided not to partake in this tournament.

Good luck Great Lakes.

[trugreatness20]

Mmm thats interesting IROK and after all that trash talk :p

[Geoffrey]

Army pwns.

[pils]

They are stuck in the section you place them in, until we get to the all around part of the battle. I know this limits the captains strategy, but the captains in this are more of team managers and are there for team moral.

Why?

[trugreatness20]

Because of the structures of the rules i have set up to be different than PSST the captains basically pick their squad, form line-ups and keep everyone in good shape game wise. The reason people cant be moved in their specific styles is for the purpose of the all around part of the tournament. This way we get a ton of fun match-ups in various styles.

[Lieutenant]

llrich, I go to a school were English is spoken. I read in english and all. But for god's sake! I'm colombian, I don't understand the rules! :o

Can you please tell me what they mean in english? :p

[Magician]

Because of the structures of the rules i have set up to be different than PSST the captains basically pick their squad, form line-ups and keep everyone in good shape game wise. The reason people cant be moved in their specific styles is for the purpose of the all around part of the tournament. This way we get a ton of fun match-ups in various styles.

I hope I'm not being ignorant in this, but did you just imply that by keeping each player in their respective styles - and not swapping them around between rounds to form the strongest team possible - would bring a "ton of fun match-ups"? I don't mean to be causing any hassle, I'm just looking for logic... especially when you suggest keeping players in "good shape game wise" focuses primarily on one style. :confused:

I'm happy with the way the rules are set, by the way. I'm just curious as to your logic behind these points.

[Punishment]

Why not just have 8 players and no subs?

What's the point of them? lol

[trugreatness20]

Rounds will go faster, its more manageable and stuff like that. Pun make a thread for the Army team you are the capitan after all :p We gotta start figuring somethings out.

[Dream]

So is one round Gl vs Army vs banff altogether? Or does one server sit out? Sorry I couldn't understand. It's probably obvious though..

[pils]

No Dream, each server plays the other two simultaneously....

[FiReBrAnD]

I'm guessing it is too late to sign-up for this..? As I don't scan through the forums much.. :\

[pils]

God dammit FB.... GL coulda used you.

[FiReBrAnD]

If someone would have PMed me .. I would have joined, I don't scan the forums anymore .. -_-

[Nitanius Nolund]

Mmm thats interesting IROK and after all that trash talk :p

I hardly talked any trash.

EDIT:

And it's not like I'm even needed. If Mag comes to me and asks me to play, I'll consider it, as I did in fact sign up.

[trugreatness20]

Too late now, you already withdrew. After the Shinok and Lieu episode im kinda forced to enforce that if people drop-out they may no longer rejoin. I just dont like this attitude people have about if they are not picked they wont support their server and whatnot. Its kinda typical, but if i am not picked ill still be rooting my team on.

[I'malive24/7]

llrich, you keep saying that having subs will speed things up, but if there are no subs, then you only have to do 1 round. With subs, then you have to do multiple rounds, therefore talking well over twice as long, probably 3 or 4 times as long.

[trugreatness20]

Ima there will be multiple rounds regardless, relax. It took me a while to make it this way and i feel that this is best.

[2xfire]

lol... Everyone is complaining so much. Why not give a little props to the people taking a lot of time out of their day to TRY and make this thing go smoothly. ;)

[bludhoundz]

The Battles:

1) Each round will be 5 v. 5 in each style until one teams style is completely depleted. (ie. Banff’s free section has no players left after taking out 6 of Great Lake’s freestylers). If say one team has 4 turtlers left and the other team has 6, two players will have to sit out and may not be allocated to any other style. (If Armageddon has a full free section, but only three turtlers left, the excess free section will have to sit.)
2) Once each style is depleted the battles will break down into all around contests. (Great Lakes has three turtlers left and two greys, their freestyle section is considered depleted when no one is left) Players will be thrown up against one another, but the style will be random and announced two days before the round begins. It will cycle like this; First style announced will be random, then in the following round one of the other two styles not previously used will be played and then the final style will be played. It will continue to cycle like this.
3) All match-ups, in the stylized rounds, will be determined by rosters sent through PM’s by captains to myself or the Professor?. If PM’s are not sent in on time the roster will be randomized and match-ups will be made that way. In the all around contests match-ups will be randomized (no PM’s needed),

I am not sure I completely understand this. Taken from the parenthesis in #1: "Banff’s free section has no players left after taking out 6 of Great Lake’s freestylers." So if all of Banff's freestylers play, and even if they all win, they are considered done playing? That doesn't really make sense to me.

I'm also unclear on distributions: we don't have to do 5 / 5 / 5? If not, can people be moved from one style to another DURING the tournament, or does it have to be announced beforehand? As for when a style is depleted - does that mean all games become the free for all?

[trugreatness20]

Aite, say a teams freestyle section has all its players defeated, and its opponent has 3 players left after its all said and done. Then those three players move onto the stylized round when the other two styles (turt and grey) have been wiped out or are able to move on.

Also subs or any other players, will not be able to allocated anywhere else. They must stay in the style that their captain designates them too. And yes say you lose all your grey players, but still have 2 turt players and 3 free players. The 5 of you will play the other remaining grey players on the other team in the all around matches.

[The Butcher]

When you say a style has all its players defeated, does that mean the 5 starters AND 3 subs?

Because you said "6 freestylers" in the example bludz pointed out

Sorry if im asking a dumb question.. im a dumb guy! :huh:

[trugreatness20]

All the starters and subs must be defeated.

[trugreatness20]

Ok just as an update, i will need rosters to be completed by this friday and the order Captains want their players in by Sunday. The wars will commence the following Monday. I hope everyone is enjoying the quiet before the storm, because its about to get hectic in this mofo :p

Edit: Oh hell yea to double posts :cool:

[Sacred Silence]

Who's GL capt?

[A-99]

Magician.

[The SOB]

is this thing still going to happen? o.O this thread has been dead for quite some time

[trugreatness20]

Just because no one is talking in it doesnt mean its not going to happen. Stated in the first post, the rosters will be sent in Sunday, May 4 and we will commence on that Sunday the battles of the FPS Servers. Use this time to train and come up with the perfect combination. I know ED is chomping at the bit to get into this, but we are really in no rush to kick this thing off. Just be ready come next Sunday.

[solingro]

From my understanding of the rule then

3 REALLY GOOD specialists against an okay all arounder and since match up is random, I assume it's possible none of the specialists get to play in their preferred style?

May the luckiest server win then

[trugreatness20]

No may the best all around server win. Thats what this ensures. We all know GL has some dank turtlers and Army has three of the top 5 freestylers, but this eliminates the beasting in one style and makes it a more interesting competition.

[Lieutenant]

No may the best all around server win. Thats what this ensures. We all know GL has some dank turtlers and Army has three of the top 5 freestylers, but this eliminates the beasting in one style and makes it a more interesting competition.


Eh, those 3 are. . .?
I can only count 1. :p

[Punishment]

Well..

The Professor is good.
I am dank.
And don't forget booyaka.

[Lieutenant]

Well..

The Professor is good.
I am dank.
And don't forget booyaka.

I forgot you signed up for Army. Make it 2 then. :p

[The Butcher]

Well..

The Professor is good.
I am dank.
And don't forget booyaka.

lucas and cuathon aren't too shabby either

[Lieutenant]

Yeah, but in my opinion both Stiven and Deto are better than llrich and Cuathon.

Which reminds me Butcher... MY SIGNATURE! :p

[The Butcher]

Yeah, but in my opinion both Stiven and Deto are better than llrich and Cuathon.

Which reminds me Butcher... MY SIGNATURE! :p

haha you dont have to remind me, its in to him, i just think it might be a little too complicated !!

I will update you later today

[trugreatness20]

Actually in GS1 the order of freestylers went like this. 1) Punishment 2) The Professor? 3) Allstar 4) llrich and i cant remember who 5 was, but i think it could have been Isaac since he had to play Prof before Prof could play me. So actually, we have 4 of the top 5 freestylers according to the main TAO tournament for freestyling. Also, dont forget my last game against Stiv... i torched him :)

[The Butcher]

Actually in GS1 the order of freestylers went like this. 1) Punishment 2) The Professor? 3) Allstar 4) llrich and i cant remember who 5 was, but i think it could have been Isaac since he had to play Prof before Prof could play me. So actually, we have 4 of the top 5 freestylers according to the main TAO tournament for freestyling. Also, dont forget my last game against Stiv... i torched him :)



"Holla"

[skev21]

Couple of questions. Can we set up a neutral party for the rosters to be sent to? And surely it's a given that we can use different starting rosters against each Server.

[trugreatness20]

Yes, different starting rosters will be accepted against each server if thats what the captain would like. And no i will take the rosters and post them once i have gathered each. Remember i am not captain so there will be no bias on the part of me playing for Army. Also, to put all doubts out of your mind, ED wanted to send me his roster yesterday and i told him he could not because that would give Army an unfair advantage as the temptation of having Banff's roster for a week prior to the war could be too tempting for me. I assure you, bias will not play a factor in this tournament.

[pils]

I'm just gonna throw this out there... Take it or leave it...
Regardless of how much you assure us no bias will take place, I still don't trust you. :)

[trugreatness20]

You have every right not to trust me. I will just need to earn it, and thats fair enough. Im sure there will be others out there that share your sentiments pils.

[pils]

I'm glad you are taking a rational approach to the matter. But, whats your solution?

[trugreatness20]

Solution to what? My possible bias? To not be biased when it comes to matters of the tournament. How do you think Mith did it? He was on the winning team, but no one screamed bias, it will be just smooth sailing. Also if people are worried about me fixing the rosters trust me and you can ask Pun, its out of my hands for Army. I am just coming up with ideas, it is his call.

[Master TAO]

Actually in GS1 the order of freestylers went like this. 1) Punishment 2) The Professor? 3) Allstar 4) llrich and i cant remember who 5 was, but i think it could have been Isaac since he had to play Prof before Prof could play me. So actually, we have 4 of the top 5 freestylers according to the main TAO tournament for freestyling. Also, dont forget my last game against Stiv... i torched him :)

i agree with prof on consistency..... pun llrich and allstar are very beatable on a game to game basis. No rich, you are king in your own mind :eek:

[pils]

Solution to what? My possible bias? To not be biased when it comes to matters of the tournament. How do you think Mith did it? He was on the winning team, but no one screamed bias, it will be just smooth sailing. Also if people are worried about me fixing the rosters trust me and you can ask Pun, its out of my hands for Army. I am just coming up with ideas, it is his call.

Mith managed because people trusted him.

[~Priest~]

You have every right not to trust me. I will just need to earn it, and thats fair enough. Im sure there will be others out there that share your sentiments pils.

You might need to be bias to have any chance of winning this war.

[trugreatness20]

Bias will not be needed for Army to defeat any of the servers. We have teh dragon, game over.

[skev21]

I wasn't accusing you of bias or potential bias. I just thought it might be a good idea in order to prevent even the slightest complaint of potential controversy. Which you already seem to be having to deal with simply because you flat out refused to let a third party collect the rosters. I'm not saying you will cheat, I really don't think you will, I'm just trying to help you watch your back so that noone else comes at you with the you changed your roster because you saw ours first argument.

[Detonation]

Actually in GS1 the order of freestylers went like this. 1) Punishment 2) The Professor? 3) Allstar 4) llrich and i cant remember who 5 was, but i think it could have been Isaac since he had to play Prof before Prof could play me. So actually, we have 4 of the top 5 freestylers according to the main TAO tournament for freestyling. Also, dont forget my last game against Stiv... i torched him :)

I only see 2 top freestylers in army as well, you were seeded #10 in the GS1, and winning a freestyle tourny doesn't make you officially the best freestyler of TAO, just like pun won GS1, doesn't mean he would win every freestyle tournament. Also there were alot of top freestylers who never signed up for that tourny, so only because you ended up as 4th place doesn't make you the 4th best freestyler in TAO officially lol, that and alot of people were DQ'ed due inactivity.

EDIT: ya my bad, I meant GS1.

[Magician]

I only see 2 top freestylers in army as well, you were seeded #10 in the GS2, and winning a freestyle tourny doesn't make you officially the best freestyler of TAO, just like pun won GS2, doesn't mean he would win every freestyle tournament. Also there were alot of top freestylers who never signed up for that tourny, so only because you ended up as 4th place doesn't make you the 4th best freestyler in TAO officially lol, that and alot of people were DQ'ed due inactivity.

Punishment won GS1... ;)

Can we just leave it simply as llrich is a good player, although argueably not as good as he likes to think he is? :p

Either way, GL's roster is nearly complete. When do you need them submitted by?

[†Tao Veteran†]

Mag, is it too late to play someone for a spot on the GL roster? I'm sure I've asked you this before but you have yet been able to give me an answer.

[trugreatness20]

Oooh Mag your name looks creepy in purple :p

[Magician]

Mag, is it too late to play someone for a spot on the GL roster? I'm sure I've asked you this before but you have yet been able to give me an answer.

Of course there's time. Have you joined up on the team forums yet?

Oooh Mag your name looks creepy in purple :p

Jealous much? :cool: :p

[Lost.Boy]

Mag + Mod + Gl = Gl wins server wars

[Boom! Headshot.]

i will be greying it up in this ish. Not-Overly-Ridiculously-Good-or-Bad Luck to all players.

[Silver Coast]

Wait so do you need to sign up for this, or is the pool of players basically the whole server?

[trugreatness20]

Arena its a shame, but you are too late for sign-ups. I held sign-ups two weeks ago and now teams are forming and people are training for when the wars kick off this Sunday. That reminds me, CAPTAINS HAVE YOUR ROSTERS READY.

@ Mag: I am not jealous in the slightest, i will never expect to be mod and i cant lie it couldnt have happened to a better person. Congrats man, to you and Prof. Well deserved.

[Magician]

Arena its a shame, but you are too late for sign-ups. I held sign-ups two weeks ago and now teams are forming and people are training for when the wars kick off this Sunday. That reminds me, CAPTAINS HAVE YOUR ROSTERS READY.

@ Mag: I am not jealous in the slightest, i will never expect to be mod and i cant lie it couldnt have happened to a better person. Congrats man, to you and Prof. Well deserved.

Sunday? Cool. I'd honestly rather go through a 3rd party, or somehow know yours have been decided already before giving you mine.

I wasn't being serious about the jealously thing. ;)

[trugreatness20]

Again i assure you there will be no bias on my part, if you and ED will feel more comfortable i can notify you on AIM once Pun has sent in ours. If he does not send me a roster i will make one for Army and then notify you and ED. I guess this way bias will be out of all your minds.

/sign ye of little faith.

[Magician]

Better safe than sorry.

[trugreatness20]

Yea it just bothers me that everyone is suspicious of me when i havent done a dishonest thing in my entire TAO career. Sure i used to get a little riled up and i am working on that, but it just irks me when i see people doubt me on the basis of my character. Im sure i am more honest than 99% of the people that play this game.

[Magician]

Respect is earned, not given.

I'm not doubting your honest, per se, I'm more just making sure nothing could potentially go wrong.

I mean, what if I was to submit my team now, and find on Sunday that Army's team vs GL was pitched perfectly against us? It would be too coincidential not to be suspicious, ya know?

[trugreatness20]

I would not let you submit your team now, as i did the same with ED for that exact reason. Like i said, you will know Sunday on Aim when our roster is in. Enough of this talk, i know you arent doubting me.

[pils]

llrich, just accept that your word isn't enough to put our fears of possible foul play to rest. And if Army gets a lucky draw against Banff or GL (whether it was with your help or not) you will be under the spotlight.... Why not just eliminate that possibility with a third party?

[(*HG*)]

Im surprised ED hasnt been all over this thread! ED where are you??? :)

[speaker4thedead]

llrich, just accept that your word isn't enough to put our fears of possible foul play to rest. And if Army gets a lucky draw against Banff or GL (whether it was with your help or not) you will be under the spotlight.... Why not just eliminate that possibility with a third party?

Problem with a "Third Party" is that they'll have to be form this game yes? In that case they had to come from a server yes? Theres still that chance that "foul" play could still be used

[trugreatness20]

Pils ive accepted the fact you guys dont trust me and frankly i dont care. You signed up for this war and war is what you are gonna get. It will be fair and the only way you will find that out is if you let things take its course. Sorry bud, but thats the end of this discussion. No let me rephrase that, that is all i am going to respond to. You guys can keep on talking, but dont expect me to keep on repeating myself or trying to assure anyone of unbiased play. I have said it enough now, things will just need to take their course. Discuss.

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Arena its a shame, but you are too late for sign-ups. I held sign-ups two weeks ago and now teams are forming and people are training for when the wars kick off this Sunday. That reminds me, CAPTAINS HAVE YOUR ROSTERS READY.

@ Mag: I am not jealous in the slightest, i will never expect to be mod and i cant lie it couldnt have happened to a better person. Congrats man, to you and Prof. Well deserved.

uh. Sunday? i'll be paintballing w/ my team on Sunday, then i go to church, which lets out at 6pm Mountain time... whoever winds up playing me needs to PM me so we can work out a time, preferably 7pm Mountain time or after (i'm good to play til 2 am lol).

[trugreatness20]

Its not just on Sunday lol, it starts Sunday and round 1 will last for a week more or less. So you will have time to get a game in.

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i know, i'm just saying in the event that i am scheduled to play on sun :D

[Lieutenant]

Eh, Lucas, any date specifically for when to start this tourney? Or are you waiting for something?

[The Butcher]

Eh, Lucas, any date specifically for when to start this tourney? Or are you waiting for something?


Its not just on Sunday lol, it starts Sunday and round 1 will last for a week more or less. So you will have time to get a game in.

:dry:

[Lost.Boy]

It's all good that were all buddy buddy but um



what about the tourney :P

[skev21]

llrich, surely you can see it's even more suspicious if you just flat out refuse to go through a third party? Where is the skin off your nose by doing that? Like I said I'm not accusing you or assuming that you will abuse this. I just think that it prevents any chance of controversy.

[Magician]

/shrugs

Just leave it. We're beating a dead horse. llrich won't move on the issue, so we'll just have to see what happens.

[2xfire]

llrich, surely you can see it's even more suspicious if you just flat out refuse to go through a third party? Where is the skin off your nose by doing that? Like I said I'm not accusing you or assuming that you will abuse this. I just think that it prevents any chance of controversy.
Tis True...

[Anarchy_United]

Your all just stalling because you're afraid I'll take you all out in Rev vs. Winner.

[Shiznit]

I'm stoked for this.

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btw, it is dropless grey, right?

[trugreatness20]

Yussir.

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sweet.