SAAT - Round 4

[Shiznit]

Shiznits All-Around Tournament - Round 4


Stiven vs. Hoolwath (2-1 Stiven)

gigolojlo gl vs. ZADICO (2-1 ZADICO)

Magician vs. Abhimanu (2-1 Abhimanu)

DarkfirePhoenix vs. Bye (Bye)

Red = Winner
Bold = Good PM Sent

Lets try and make this quick. Rounds will be over as soon as everyone gets there game in.

I'm extending the round, seeming as its late in the tournament, and d/q's would be bad. Sunday is the last chance. But i will wait until then to d/q.

Send 'em and play 'em folks.

[Rubbish]

Nice match ups, especially Hool vs Stiven.

[ZADICO]

hey where is my name??

[Lieutenant]

Indeed, that's the most attractive game of this series. I can't see a winner ouf of that round, seeing as both Hool and Stiven play grey pretty well.


If someone doesn't get there game in, the disqualification will be held on March 2nd.


Have you gone loco Shiz? Do you seriously want this round to wait nearly a year for the next round? :confused:

Or did you mean May? :p

[ZADICO]

stiven gonna win, i know both skills...

And i think i am free this round. Great.
:)

[Rubbish]

I'm also rooting for Stiv, but don't understimate Hool because he's a beast.

[Stiven]

Pm to Hoolwath

Hey bud, round 4 saat. My time zone is -5 hours gmt.

Most of days i am online since 4:00 pm to 8 :00 pm. on Gl (King William iii), Banff (Gravity), Rev (Stiven), Tell me your accounts.

[powza]

hey where is my name??
I think you got dq'd for not playing your game....

[Lieutenant]

Lol, you guys talk too much crap.

It's easy as this: Grey game will come down to blocks, and whoever gets that block will win the grey game. And whoever wins the grey game, in my opinion, wins the series.

[ZADICO]

I think you got dq'd for not playing your game....

nop, i sent my good PM, and my rival never comes.
And my name is in red too in the last thread.
So i am bye this round..:cool:

Lol, you guys talk too much crap.

It's easy as this: Grey game will come down to blocks, and whoever gets that block will win the grey game. And whoever wins the grey game, in my opinion, wins the series.

i think the turtle game gonna decide it. In free stiv gonna win.In grey, if stiv don't play drunk should win too..., but i think hool can win there too. It is hard :):p

[Shiznit]

hey where is my name??

I..

Indeed, that's the most attractive game of this series. I can't see a winner ouf of that round, seeing as both Hool and Stiven play grey pretty well.




Have you gone loco Shiz? Do you seriously want this round to wait nearly a year for the next round? :confused:

Or did you mean May? :p

Was..

I think you got dq'd for not playing your game....

Kinda..

nop, i sent my good PM, and my rival never comes.
And my name is in red too in the last thread.
So i am bye this round..:cool:



i think the turtle game gonna decide it. In free stiv gonna win.In grey, if stiv don't play drunk should win too..., but i think hool can win there too. It is hard :):p

Messed up..

I didn't have much time, and I wasn't sure if I was gonna be on for the rest of the night.

I think i've gotten everything fixed... ;)

[powza]

So ZADICO had no opponent last round and then gets a bye......

Nice way to get into the finals

[A-99]

I know this has been discussed before and yada yada, but if it's two legenders in the finals, thats pretty lame.

[abhimanu]

Can I play zadico instead of mag? :p

[Hoolwath]

I replied.


If I manage to win, I challenge Zadico. He will not refuse, because he clearly knows my skills.

[Magician]

Can I play zadico instead of mag? :p

I'd gladly take the bye, as I may be going into hospital within a week.

I replied.


If I manage to win, I challenge Zadico. He will not refuse, because he clearly knows my skills.

My money's on Hool, 2-1, turt and grey.

PM to abhimanu:

Tough matchup. Can't wait. :)

I'm available at the following times, GMT+1:

Friday: 9am-9pm
Saturday: Unavailable (usually 11pm-2am)
Sunday: Unavailable
Monday-Wednesday: 11pm-2am
Thursday: 7pm-2am

Let me know when you can make it, and we'll organise something. :) Heck, we see each other on enough as it is anyway. :cool:

~Mag

[ZADICO]

I know this has been discussed before and yada yada, but if it's two legenders in the finals, thats pretty lame.

lol, come on don't make this into a Legends/FPS thing...
This is a great tourney, and won who won gonna be in a great way.

I replied.


If I manage to win, I challenge Zadico. He will not refuse, because he clearly knows my skills.

Ok, but... if stiv wins i wanna play vs one of the winner of the others two battles.

[Shiznit]

So ZADICO had no opponent last round and then gets a bye......

Nice way to get into the finals

I randomized it.

Can I play zadico instead of mag? :p

And this is how it came out.

Sorry people. ;)

EDIT: Except Hoolwath and Stiven, but my money is on Stiven.

[Magician]

He's only played one match! :p

Oh well, nice draw for you there ZAD. ;)

[Magician]

Abhi wins the freestyle, coz I stuffed it all up. *sigh*

[abhimanu]

S/s not needed i'm guessing... Mag and I are tight, so we'll schedule our next game asap. I'm really not sure whether I'll turt or grey him, so I'll post/pm him when I know.

[DarkfirePhoenix]

I randomized it.


Awful randomization. No person should ever get two free rounds in a row in a tournament when it can be avoided. All you needed to do was exclude Zadico from being able to get a bye.

[Lieutenant]

True. I don't think it's fair that Zadico gets a bye. Nor should gigolojlo. I think it's pretty unfair. You can send in a good pm with impossible times and still win this? I can't believe it. I think that this randomizing thing is absurd. It was 14% possibility that Zadico came out as the person with the bye. Seeing as you didn't post his name, and you had to post him somewhere you gave him a bye? I think it should be gig vs Zadico seeing as both have received a bye, and the other person should advance.

[ZADICO]

Shinzit... in the first post says... this round eds at March 2nd??? lol the longest round in the history of TAO!!! almost 1 year!!! :p

He's only played one match! :p

Oh well, nice draw for you there ZAD. ;)

lol the lucky of the champion:p

Awful randomization. No person should ever get two free rounds in a row in a tournament when it can be avoided. All you needed to do was exclude Zadico from being able to get a bye.

Looking from that point of view i am agree with you, but matches are done. :rolleyes:

True. I don't think it's fair that Zadico gets a bye. Nor should gigolojlo. I think it's pretty unfair. You can send in a good pm with impossible times and still win this? I can't believe it. I think that this randomizing thing is absurd. It was 14% possibility that Zadico came out as the person with the bye. Seeing as you didn't post his name, and you had to post him somewhere you gave him a bye? I think it should be gig vs Zadico seeing as both have received a bye, and the other person should advance.

well, relax buddy, for win the tourney i have to win 2 more matches yet.

[Magician]

And the rest of us have already played 3 matches to get where we are.

[Lieutenant]

I think it would be really unfair. Neither Gig or ZADICO should get a 2nd bye. Make them face off, seeing as it would be fair since both got a bye already.

[Mithrandir]

Sigh, Shiz, you cannot give the same person multiple byes. For crying out loud, make ZAD play SOMEBODY! Heck, make him play Gig (unless DFP has gotten a bye as well). At least TRY to make the players have equally difficult journies to the finals.:dry:

[Shiznit]

Thats the thing... ZAD hasn't had a bye.

Its not his fault that his opponent was inactive the last round. I can't change up the fairness of the randomization, just cause his opponent was a retard.

[Mithrandir]

Thats the thing... ZAD hasn't had a bye.

Its not his fault that his opponent was inactive the last round. I can't change up the fairness of the randomization, just cause his opponent was a retard.

Please explain to me why it would be unfair to make him play Gig. Randomization is not intrinsically fair; it depends on the circumstances.

If you are lucky enough to draw someone that is completely inactive, there is very little difference between that and drawing a bye. The only difference is that you have to send one PM. That really does not take much effort. For all practical purposes, ZADICO has had a lucky free ride (not entirely free, but way easier than some of the others).

It is MORE JUST for Zadico to play closer to as many games as Magician or Stiven or whoever, than it is for Zadico to get all the way to the semi-finals in a 50-something man tournament while only playing one opponent. Do you seriously not see that?

[xEaglex]

I had to play 3 tough rounds: Dape, Professor, Abhimanu.

Zadico had to play one person and he's 2 rounds farther than me?

That's almost as bad as I'malive being farther than me in the turt slam without playing a game.

[Mithrandir]

Sometimes, like in the turt slam, it's out of the hands of the tournament organizer, and it's just luck of the draw. It stinks.

But in this case, it is not out of the hands of the tournament organizer, and it can be evened up somewhat.

[ZADICO]

Sometimes, like in the turt slam, it's out of the hands of the tournament organizer, and it's just luck of the draw. It stinks.

But in this case, it is not out of the hands of the tournament organizer, and it can be evened up somewhat.
this is the problem cause i don't like this "random" system tournaments. Cause always are some kind of trouble. I think all tournaments should be done with clear brackets from first round to the final. So in that way we couldn't get this troubles and nobody would be bye in the final rounds.
If you make me play to someone now, it is ok, but the "random" thing gonna be out.

[Shiznit]

Okay..

so ZAD plays gig.

Even though I don't completely understand your reasoning..

[Stiven]

Okay..

so ZAD plays gig.

Even though I don't completely understand your reasoning..

Is your tourney, is your rules. No one can say anything about your decisions.

[ZADICO]

ok... this is ridiculous, but i don't care..

my pm to gig:

"Hey,we have to play for the SAAT tourney.
I can be online any day after 6 PM of my time zone, but not tuesday and wednesday, those days i can be after 9 pm.
Tell me one day and hour to play and i will be there.
On this moment here it is 13:09.
Cya"

but.. he can't receive PM.

http://i29.tinypic.com/es7nf9.jpg

[ZADICO]

Is your tourney, is your rules. No one can say anything about your decisions.
don't worry bud, if i win i hope to see you in the final :)

[Mithrandir]

Is your tourney, is your rules. No one can say anything about your decisions.

While that is true at one level, it is also a TAL approved tournament, which means if he wants it to remain TAL approved, he must run it justly.

[Stiven]

While that is true at one level, it is also a TAL approved tournament, which means if he wants it to remain TAL approved, he must run it justly.

Yea i know, but since he received TAL aproved, so he can make his owns decisions, (i guess) XD.

[gigolojlo gl]

ok... this is ridiculous, but i don't care..

my pm to gig:

"Hey,we have to play for the SAAT tourney.
I can be online any day after 6 PM of my time zone, but not tuesday and wednesday, those days i can be after 9 pm.
Tell me one day and hour to play and i will be there.
On this moment here it is 13:09.
Cya"

but.. he can't receive PM.

http://i29.tinypic.com/es7nf9.jpg

My forum account is gigolojlo gl, not Gigolojlo.

And when you do send me a private message, can you please include your time zone. They're fairly easy to look up. Thanks.

[ZADICO]

My forum account is gigolojlo gl, not Gigolojlo.

And when you do send me a private message, can you please include your time zone. They're fairly easy to look up. Thanks.
read good, i tell you my time zone when i type that on this moment my time is... 13:50 now...

and we can play right now if you want

[gigolojlo gl]

read good, i tell you my time zone when i type that on this moment my time is... 13:50 now...

and we can play right now if you want

Leaving in three minutes. I'll send you a PM later.

[Magician]

GMT-4, ZAD. :p

[ZADICO]

GMT-4, ZAD. :p
thanks :D

[Quinn]

Good luck Stiv and Zadico. :)

[ZADICO]

gig i gonna be on forums almost all the time, i am studying, so pm me or ask in lobby for me, and someone could tell me via msn if you can play today :)

[Stiven]

Same to hoolwath, i am online since 2 hours ago; so just reply me or found me in servers.

[Hoolwath]

Hey, It is 10 pm go to Rev, I want to talk to you.

[Hoolwath]

Me and Stiv rescheduled to tomorrow, I could not play today.

[ZADICO]

just to report...
we was playing with gig and he dc... here is the s/s of how we was..

Now it was My TURN, and knight of him have to wait one turn. I am who left the scout and knight.

we gonna continue it tomorrow from same place.

http://i28.tinypic.com/14ybuyq.jpg

[Rubbish]

I think he has you.

[ZADICO]

probably... who knows... maybe i can get the draw..but ok, don't start to fight about who could win or not.
I think we have to play the others 2 styles and then if he win one of them finish this game.

[powza]

Good to see you have changed it there Shiz. Good work.

[gigolojlo gl]

probably... who knows... maybe i can get the draw..but ok, don't start to fight about who could win or not.
I think we have to play the others 2 styles and then if he win one of them finish this game.

Thanks for posting that, ZAD. My comp was not connecting for some reason.

[ZADICO]

no problem. btw, today i gonna have the forums site open, just pm when you be online and can play...

[Hoolwath]

Stiven, I will be here in 30 minutes to get it done. :)

[Stiven]

Ok today was the match againt Hool.

I took the free game and he took the turt game.

So the grey game was intense and he got d/c

I am the brown with full hp in my units, chanty with 1 turn wait and he had full hp in his units (his assassin wait 1 turn)

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/9108/dcfromhoolwathsv8.jpg

[Hoolwath]

I do not know why I got d/c and why I could not log back up until now.


All units are full, his chanty waits 2, my assasin waits 1, it is his turn. I think it is a draw and if he messes up, I could probably take it.

Freestyle game was really close, I thought I was winning when I killed his cleric and his 13 hp scout was the only ranged unit, with my knights inside his formation, but due to lack of experience I got careless and went for a finishing blow on his 13 hp scout from the side instead of going for frosty, which blocked. He then used the frosty very well in the next few moves and blocked my path with the scout that survived.

The turtle game was really close too I won by a stoned knight three hits away from death. He surrended with his knight being at 1 hp.

I messed up the grey game as you can see and it ended up really close, I think it is a draw, but I will gladly finish this, not now, though, it is midnight and I have to get up to work tomorrow. Funny how I got the d/c when Stiv "had to think very good his moves". This gives you a couple of hours to think them through, Stiv. :glare:

EDIT: I could finish it tomorrow I guess, if not tomorrow, Thursday.

[Stiven]

This last game grey will be close. (Draw suck, i preffer lose) :).

Edit: we should finish this game now, i dont think than take much time.

[Hoolwath]

Go to Rev, we will arrange a time, I cannot play now.

EDIT: We rescheduled for tomorrow... or to be exact.. it is tomorrow here already, so we rescheduled for my later today and Stiv's tomorrow.

[Lieutenant]

I knew this serie would come down to a grey game. I simply knew it!

Good luck to both, I think there's still a lot to be played, even though Stiven has got upper hand. :)

[Stiven]

I messed up the grey game as you can see and it ended up really close, I think it is a draw, but I will gladly finish this, not now, though, it is midnight and I have to get up to work tomorrow. Funny how I got the d/c when Stiv "had to think very good his moves". This gives you a couple of hours to think them through, Stiv. :glare:

I could finish it tomorrow I guess, if not tomorrow, Thursday.

Maybe you should say, This gives to both a few of hours to think.

Ok tomorrow, i hope found you and dont made me wait this time =P.

[ZADICO]

i lost to gig in free :)

[gigolojlo gl]

Game: gigolojlo (Chapel The Evergreen) vs. ZADICO (Radamanthys)
Winner: gigolojlo
Style: Free
Screenshot: He'll confirm.
Comments: Good game, ZAD.

[ZADICO]

i win in grey.

s/s if it is neccessary...

[ZADICO]

btw, gig said that i can take the turtle game... cause he was thinking on quit on TAO. i hope he change his mind and come and play the turtle game.
Well, if he decide to play.. and he comes today, i gonna try to have this site open all the day,he just have to send me a PM to play :)
thanks.

[Hoolwath]

Anyway, so I looked at it again and I am affraid I might have lost afterall :tongue2:, the game is far from over, though, yea.

Me and Stiv should be playing in one hour, he better hurry up, I am mad tired. MAD. It is 11 pm here, I just got back from town.

EDIT: Ok, I cannot take it anymore, I fell asleep on my chair. I am in no shape to play a rematch today. The problem is, I already promised my schoolmates I will go out with them on Wednesday, my summer friends I will go out with them on Thursday and my friends I will go out with them on Friday.

I think I will not be drinking Thursday because three days straight make me sick, so I am able to play Thursday when I come back from town. Even midnight. So try to make Thursday 5 pm your time or PM me with any other possible time. I am sorry I could not play you today.

[abhimanu]

Maggy aint ben on msn much. I might have to send him an official schedule PM, but if I catch him tonight or tomorrow night we'll just play. That's the best case scenario.

[Stiven]

We agree to this time; see as would better finish the game yesterday.

Ok tomorrow then. 4 or 5 pm in my time, your time 11 or 12 pm.

[Hoolwath]

Make it THURSDAY, I cannot play today. I can play THURSDAY only. I apologize again for yesterday.

[Magician]

Maggy aint ben on msn much. I might have to send him an official schedule PM, but if I catch him tonight or tomorrow night we'll just play. That's the best case scenario.

What style are we gonna play? I'm thinking Thursday may be best, as I get out of work relatively early.

Either way, I'll be around tonight and tomorrow too. Let me know what style we're playing n00b!

[Lieutenant]

What style are we gonna play? I'm thinking Thursday may be best, as I get out of work relatively early.

Either way, I'll be around tonight and tomorrow too. Let me know what style we're playing n00b!


Does it really matter the style? Afterall he's picking, and you'll know sooner or later. Plus, you two were online yesterday. :p

[abhimanu]

What style are we gonna play? I'm thinking Thursday may be best, as I get out of work relatively early.

Either way, I'll be around tonight and tomorrow too. Let me know what style we're playing n00b!

I said turt, we were both on last night, but Mag was occupied with other stuff, so I'll try and get on tonight to play.

[Magician]

Catch me within the next two hours or so.

[Hoolwath]

I am here Stiv! Kind of drunk, but ready to play!

[Magician]

abhi and myself are hopefully going to play Friday morning his time.

[Hoolwath]

Anyway! It is 0:40 am here. I guess Stiv could not make it today.

Stiv PM me when you get online.

[Stiven]

I am here Stiv! Kind of drunk, but ready to play!

Sorry now was my fault. i was really busy, So? you can play me tomorrow in my time of 4 pm and your time of 11 pm?

[Hoolwath]

I cannot make that. I have this evening scheduled for a week. I could play you until 7pm my tiime... which is in next 6 hours. If not, it would be awesome if Shiznit made the next brackets like "someone vs. Winner of Stiv vs. Hool" and let us play throughut the weekend, since we are both actively planning our games.

[powza]

Looks like ZAD gets another bye seeing as gigo has apparently quit TAO. lol


How ironic....

[Stiven]

I cannot make that. I have this evening scheduled for a week. I could play you until 7pm my tiime... which is in next 6 hours. If not, it would be awesome if Shiznit made the next brackets like "someone vs. Winner of Stiv vs. Hool" and let us play throughut the weekend, since we are both actively planning our games.

Dam. can you play me the saturday? i am online since 2:30 pm to dont know but late, maybe to 6 pm. (my time), your time is 9:30 pm.

[Hoolwath]

Yes, Saturday 9:30 pm my time is OK.

[Mithrandir]

Looks like ZAD gets another bye seeing as gigo has apparently quit TAO. lol


How ironic....

It isn't really a bye, they played their first two games, and Gig knows ZAD would rape him at turt, so he gave up.

[ZADICO]

well, i can't wait for play the semis then :p

[abhimanu]

It isn't really a bye, they played their first two games, and Gig knows ZAD would rape him at turt, so he gave up.

I've got doubts about that one. I have seen Zad turt and I've seen gig free and grey, and I think it'd be a pretty good game if gig got an oppo to Zad's second row turt.

Edit: However, it's not my decision :p. GL in the semis Zad

[powza]

It isn't really a bye, they played their first two games, and Gig knows ZAD would rape him at turt, so he gave up.

Fair call.....my bad

[ZADICO]

I've got doubts about that one. I have seen Zad turt and I've seen gig free and grey, and I think it'd be a pretty good game if gig got an oppo to Zad's second row turt.

Edit: However, it's not my decision :p. GL in the semis Zad

thanks. but to let you know i am better in turtle opp side than same sides. If not, ask Hatchet :rolleyes:

Edit: Since the other 2 battles still don't end. Can i arrange the semis vs the free player?

[Magician]

No sign of abhi...

[abhimanu]

No sign of abhi...

I left you a message on msn... I'm here now.

[Magician]

Mag vs Abhimanu, turtle

Winner: Magician.

s/s on request.

We're set to grey tomorrow at just past 8pm his time tomorrow, 12midnight for me. I realise this is a bit past your deadline, but I hope it's not a problem, as we will get this game in. :)

[Shiznit]

I updated the front page.

You guys tried hard to get them in, and its a bit late in the tourney to do those d/q's.

[Magician]

I updated the front page.

You guys tried hard to get them in, and its a bit late in the tourney to do those d/q's.

You updated the front page, and missed the result I posted in my previous post! :p

[Hoolwath]

He meant the deadline only.


Sheesh!

[Stiven]

Ok hool, i am online 4:00 pm here and your time is 11:00 pm, i hope than you play me today.

[Hoolwath]

Cool, I totally forgot about that! Go to Rev.

[Stiven]

Ok our game was finished, i took the grey game.

s/s if is necessary.

[Hoolwath]

That game took half an hour from that point and it came down to being one turn short for me. My last move was killing his chanty with LW but one turn too late. He killed my assasin from back the following turn. If I had the one turn it would end up being a draw with me ass bombing his knight. Good games, Stiv, and good luck for the rest of the tourney.

[Magician]

No sign of abhi yet. Hopefully he'll get here soon. :)

[Magician]

abhi and myself are greying now. :)

And an hour and a half later, abhi wins by 2knights and wards. Intense game. Thoroughly enjoyed it, and I hope you can forgive me for my behaviour ingame.

Good luck with the remainder of the tournament.

[Stiven]

That game took half an hour from that point and it came down to being one turn short for me. My last move was killing his chanty with LW but one turn too late. He killed my assasin from back the following turn. If I had the one turn it would end up being a draw with me ass bombing his knight. Good games, Stiv, and good luck for the rest of the tourney.

you are a great player, i hope keep playing againt you someday.