Ironman Freestyle Tournament: Round 1!

[Magician]

Let's kick this thing off. For those unaware (which hopefully none of you will be) Click Here (http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35889) for a quick recap of the rules for this tournament.

Matchups!

Legend Z vs Zanderwith 2knights, dragon, frost, cleric remaining. Dead: Knight, Mud, 2Scouts
the bored king vs Veilmenacex
Anarchy_United vs Sacred Silence
Pxndx vs Wisher
xEaglexvs Dream with DT, 2 scouts, 2knights, cleric, frost, stone remaining. Dead: LW.
Maverik07 vs ~Elven~Blood~with 2scouts, DT, furg, stone, frost, cleric, LW remaining. Dead: Mud
Dark7 vs ~sumpfin~
Stiven vs Proof?with 2scouts, 3knights, cleric, frost remaining. Dead: DT, mud.
Master TAO vs Yogurt55
FiReBrAnD vs lemon_ with 3knights remaining. Dead: 2 scouts, mud, DT, cleric, frost
powza vs lil monter
Rubbish vs Xiahou Dun
Legend X vs Inc. Inc.
abhimanu vs pils
detonation vs ~Supernatural~with knight, scout remaining. Dead: 2knights, scout, mud, DT, frost, cleric.
Hatchet Warrior vs bobo99
Lieutenant vs I'malive24/7with 2knights, scout, mud, DT, cleric, frost remaining. Dead: Knight, Scout.
skev21 vs eliminationwith LW, furgon, 2knights, 2scouts, cleric, frost remaining. Dead: Mud, Knight
FreddyAdu23 vs heartagram69with LW, 2scouts, mud, frost, stone remaining. Dead: Cleric, Wisp, DT.
Lord White vs Luzbel
DMD vs The Butcherwith 3knights, DT, frost, cleric remaining. Dead: 2scouts, mud.
Sniper Master vs Dark*Dragonwith cleric, dragon, scout, mud, knight, stone, LW remaining. Dead: Scout, frost.
kingedward vs shurtugal with 1knight remaining. Dead: DT, DSM, Pyro, cleric, mud, 2scouts, knight.
The Professor? vs vintage with 3knights remaining. Dead: 2 Scouts, DT, mud, frost, Cleric,

The first round will end on Sunday 22nd June, at approximately 11pm GMT+1.

Good luck, and have fun! :) Don't forget your screenies! :p

[Rubbish]

Were there any seedings?
I'll send my PM when I'm back home.

[Lieutenant]

I'malive24/7.

We've faced before and I underestimated him,and nearly lost.
I'll take precautions this time. :)

Anyways, this is my PM to him:

We're due to play for Mag's Ironman Free Tournament. I am basically open to any time since school's over, but since writing is not enough, than I'll simply tell you. I am GMT -5, and my times are the following:

Monday: 8AM-12 PM; 6 -11 PM
Tuesday: 9 AM-10 PM
Wednesday: 9 AM-5 PM

Even if none of these times help you, tell me some so I can add them to my list, I think I have plans for Thursday and Friday at late, but I'd be waiting for a response from you. :)
It is 18:14 as I write this down.

[I'malive24/7]

Lieu, can you play now?

If not, my pm is on the waaaaay.

[Lieutenant]

Lets play now. Do we need to post our units here?

[Wisher]

Yoo i need to play you for the Iron Man tourney. my rev account is bigducky. Today i will be on late at night, probably around midnight or later. I will be on and off thorughout the week at all times of the day, so i willl probably see you on. Tell me your times and we can set something up, gl

-bigducky
__________

sent to Pxndx

[Lieutenant]

By the way, now that I see matchups, I think there will be serious unit killing in the following games:

the bored king vs Veilmenacex
xEaglex vs Dream
FiReBrAnD vs lemon_
Rubbish vs Xiahou Dun
Legend X vs Inc. Inc.
abhimanu vs pils
detonation vs ~Supernatural~
Hatchet Warrior vs bobo99
Lieutenant vs I'malive24/7
skev21 vs elimination
Lord White vs Luzbel
DMD vs The Butcher

[Master TAO]

pm to yogurt:

im available the rest of today, also available monday through friday after 5 pm central standard time. I will be busy next weekend so we need to get this in this week. Thanks

[heartagram69]

PM to FreddyAdu23:

Hey, so we are supposed to play for Magicians Ironman Freestyle Tournament. Why don't you message me back times you are available. My time zone is GMT -8 and if you give me a time I can try and meet you on Rev.

-heartagram69

Yay for this starting :)

[~SUPERNATURAL~]

Haha, I feel sorry for the people who only win by a unit oe two :)

[heartagram69]

Matchups!

Legend Z vs Zander
the bored king vs Veilmenacex
Anarchy_United vs Sacred Silence
Pxndx vs Wisher
xEaglex vs Dream
Maverik07 vs ~Elven~Blood~
Dark7 vs ~sumpfin~
Stiven vs Proof?
Master TAO vs Yogurt55
FiReBrAnD vs lemon_
powza vs lil monter
Rubbish vs Xiahou Dun
Legend X vs Inc. Inc.
abhimanu vs pils
detonation vs ~Supernatural~
Hatchet Warrior vs bobo99
Lieutenant vs I'malive24/7
skev21 vs elimination
FreddyAdu23 vs heartagram69
Lord White vs Luzbel
DMD vs The Butcher
Sniper Master vs Dark*Dragon
kingedward vs shurtugal
The Professor? vs vintage



My predicted winners in red. Unpredicted matches are ones where I have no clue how good either player is or I don't want to speculate :rolleyes:

EDIT: Actual winners are bolded and underlined, I'll repost when the round is over.

EDIT: Players in blue font are ones who dropped out or were DQ'd. Purple font is predicted to win and DQ'd or dropped out.

[vintage]

Pm:

hello,
We Are To Play In Round 1 Of The Ironman Freestyle Tournament. My Info: I Live In The Est (gmt -5), I Can Play Almost Any Time On The Weekends But Only 8 Pm - 12 Pm On The Weekdays, And My Rev Account Is Vintage. Pm Me Your Info And We Can Schedule A Time To Play.

[I'malive24/7]

Lieu beats me by 8, worst game I've played in a looooong time.

[Lieutenant]

Ironman Freestyle Tournament: Round 1

Match: Lieutenant vs. I'malive24/7
Winner: Lieutenant
Screenshot: Upon request
Description: I had a standard anti consisting of 3 k, 2 s, fg, mg, dt and cleric. I beat him by 8 units in an opp-side game. Units I lost: Knight and Scout.

Gg I'ma, I'm sure that if it would've been same sides, you would've taken out more than half of my team, gg regardless. :)

[I'malive24/7]

yeah, but the DSM against your set definitely didn't work out in my favor.

[Lieutenant]

I don't have a single doubt that same sides with that DSM would've meant at least 5 or more units dead. Not a doubt.

[Sniper Master]

My PM.
Hey we are matched up for round one for the Ironman Freestyle Tournament. I live in GMT-4 and can play the following times:
Monday-Friday: 3pm-10pm
Weekends: 12am-12pm

Send me a time to play from that list and let's get this game done.

[Rubbish]

Haha nice job Lieu.

[Detonation]

Here is my PM to supernatural:

I can play at the following times PST (-7GMT)

Monday: 8:00 PM- 3:00 AM
tuesday-Thursday: 6:00 PM- 3:00 AM
Friday: 10:00 PM- 4:00 AM

I can't really scheduled anything for the weekends because I'm never sure If I will have something else to do, and I might not be available, unless you'd catch me online and I were have time to play, then I would definitely play you. So, let me know what time and day is the best one for you to play.

Lieu won by 8 units? are you kidding me? lol that is a huge advantage for the next round. Mag I haven't read the rules, but I think there should be a rule where the player can't surrender until all his units are dead or he can't kill any other units. Did I'malive surrender when he had units still left? because if he surrender when he had units still left and thought he was gonna lose already. He shoulda at least try to kill as many units as possible.

[vintage]

Ironman Freestyle Tournament: Round 1

Match: Lieutenant vs. I'malive24/7
Winner: Lieutenant
Screenshot: Upon request
Description: I had a standard anti consisting of 3 k, 2 s, fg, mg, dt and cleric. I beat him by 8 units in an opp-side game. Units I lost: Knight and Scout.

The usual tournament rules regarding behavior and conduct are to be adhered to, however screenshots of opening formations and endgame are mandatory - They MUST be posted.

Nice job on the win but consider your screen shots requested. :p

[Isaac-Z]

My PM To Zander~

Well, We have to play for the IT, I'm Able to play on
Monday-Friday at 4pm to 6
Saturday:unavailable
Sunday:Unavailable
GMT-5...
if you can't Pm me back and choose what time are correct for u and i will try to do an effort..

[Rubbish]

Xiahou Dun has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space.
Anyways Xiahou if you see this I'm GMT -5 and have a very flexible schedule now that I'm on vacations: I can play on weekdays from 8 AM-11 PM if you need it, however weekends are probably different. Just let me know and we'll fix a time.

[Lieutenant]

Nice job on the win but consider your screen shots requested. :p

Holy crap, now that you put Mag's quote there, I'm in deep shit. I didn't take a s/s of opening setups. I did take one for ending one, though.

[Lieutenant]

Lieu won by 8 units? are you kidding me? lol that is a huge advantage for the next round. Mag I haven't read the rules, but I think there should be a rule where the player can't surrender until all his units are dead or he can't kill any other units. Did I'malive surrender when he had units still left? because if he surrender when he had units still left and thought he was gonna lose already. He shoulda at least try to kill as many units as possible.

Eh, I'll post the s/s if I'ma/Mag wants me to. All I'm telling you is that it was impossible for him to kill any more of my units, unless I made a load of errors consecutively.

[Magician]

Please post the screenshots.

Deto, yeah, winning by 8 is a big advantage. That's why unit perservation is extremely important in this tournament. ;)

[Yogurt55]

I'm gonna withdraw. Had a loss in the family I can't play next week.

[Veilmenacex]

hey,

We are matched up for Ironman Freestyle
my times are

Mon - Thurs 9-10pm
fri - 9-11pm
sat,sun 5-6pm, 9-10pm
all times are est

sent to the bored king

[Lieutenant]

Please post the screenshots.

Deto, yeah, winning by 8 is a big advantage. That's why unit perservation is extremely important in this tournament. ;)

Eh, I didn't take the opening one, but is the one in the end good enough? :(

[the bored king]

hey,

We are matched up for Ironman Freestyle
my times are

Mon - Thurs 9-10pm
fri - 9-11pm
sat,sun 5-6pm, 9-10pm
all times are est
I can play on Tuesday at 9 pm
My response

[Zander]

Well, We have to play for the IT, I'm Able to play on
Monday-Friday at 4pm to 6
Saturday:unavailable
Sunday:Unavailable
GMT-5...
if you can't Pm me back and choose what time are correct for u and i will try to do an effort..
I can do those times, but it doesn't leave much room for error. I'll be "available" monday-friday 8 a.m. until 10 p.m., basically. Let's look to play tuesday, then, at 4 p.m. your time. I'm GMT-7, in pacific time, so that'll be 2 p.m. to me which is fine. Just want to check that you've got your GMT right with daylight savings time, could you respond to me with the current local time for you in your message? 5:45 is mine, currently.


Well, Just Wondering...u got time to play now?
I do have time now, but I'm not ready to play at all. I'd completely forgotten about signing up until you pm'ed me. Could you include the current local time for you in a message please?

6:54pm...it says
Alright, see, you're GMT-6 then, not GMT-5. Well, tuesday at 4 p.m. your time and 3 p.m.my time then?

ok, i have to go now...see you on tuesday
Rah Rah sis-boom bah.

[~ElVeN~BlOoD~]

we play the iron man tourney, these are my times.
i can play on:
Sun: no time, im busy all day w/ baseball
Mon: 12:00pm-4:00pm;9:00pm-10:00pm
Tues: 12:00-10:00pm
Wed: 12:00-4:00pm;9:00-10:00pm
Thurs: 12:00-10:00pm
Gmt-4 (EST)

give me some times around these, and we'll get this in.
good luck

~EB
pm to mav

[Magician]

Lieu, please post the required screenshots.

If you can't, I'm afraid I'm going to have you ask you to replay the match.

[Rubbish]

Nice pick Magician. Making someone replay a game because they forgot to take a s/s that's almost useless.

[I'malive24/7]

That's dumb. Lieu used the units he said, and he won by the amount said.

[FreddyAdu23]

heartagram69 vs. FreddyAdu23

Winner: heartagram69

He has s/s's

Des: Really good game, I tried a new set, it came down to his 5/60 health frostie holding my knight, and he got a semi-lucky frontal on my scout so he won, otherwise my 2 knights, and scout would ahve done a good bit of damage. But it was a good game. gg heartagram69

[heartagram69]

Yes GG, I won by 6, lost a cleric, wisp and DT.

Here's the screenie: http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll132/heartagram14691/IronmantournamentRound1-FreddyAdu23.jpg

[Rubbish]

You need the starting setup or you'll have to rematch.

[heartagram69]

You need the starting setup or you'll have to rematch.

I already PM'd my starting set up to Mag, which everyone else should have. I'm not gunna post my set-up for all to see and plan for?

[Rubbish]

I was just advicing you, no need in getting defensive here.

[powza]

Who the heck is little monter? lol

[heartagram69]

Not defensive at all, just saying :P since that seemed to be a bit of an issue with some. Better to PM it then post. If you want to show everyone your set fine, but you'll most likely play a set made to beat yours. :P

PS: that wasn't directed at one person, not what I meant by "you" applies to all :P

[vintage]

I already PM'd my starting set up to Mag, which everyone else should have. I'm not gunna post my set-up for all to see and plan for?

You lost 4 pieces and since only 2 will come back you won't be able to use the same starting setup anyway. Not to mention we pretty much can figure your starting setup out from the ending screen shot + lost units. So, keeping it a secret seems pretty pointless to me.

Oh, and I think it's pretty obvious you will be reviving the cleric and wisp. :p So, your next round setup should look a little something like this (http://snipurl.com/2idys), right? More or less?

[Detonation]

Detonation vs ~supernatural~
Winner: Detonation
Units remaining: 5
Gg man :).
S/s of end game: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=dy94qt&s=3
Do I really need the s/s of the starting game? If so, let me know because I have it too.

[~SUPERNATURAL~]

Yeah good game deto.

[Lieutenant]

Detonation vs ~supernatural~
Winner: Detonation
Units remaining: 5
Gg man :).
S/s of end game: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=dy94qt&s=3
Do I really need the s/s of the starting game? If so, let me know because I have it too.

Don't doubt that question for a moment. I'm already in deep shit for not having it. :angry:

And talking about s/s Deto, I'm sure Supernatural could've taken out at least 1 or 2 more units out of you.

[Wisher]

im playing pxndx on monday i believe

[Luzbel]

My pm to LW:

Originally posted BY Luzbel
Hey LW, we've been matched up to play in this tournament, my time zone is gmt-5 , im free to play anytime after 6 pm (monday to friday) and the weekends i could play at anytime after 12:00 pm , because im so lazy that i wont wake up too early XD, anyway, tell me what time zone is the one that you live on and lets arrange our match as soon as possible.

[Lieutenant]

By the way, for those who are interested on seeing the s/s, I'll soon post it.

lol that is a huge advantage for the next round. Mag I haven't read the rules, but I think there should be a rule where the player can't surrender until all his units are dead or he can't kill any other units. Did I'malive surrender when he had units still left? because if he surrender when he had units still left and thought he was gonna lose already. He shoulda at least try to kill as many units as possible.

But regarding deto vs. Supernatural game, there is no way in which deto could have won only by 5. I see the game, and green has 6 units, and brown has 5. If I read correctly, deto said he won by 5, which would mean... why would Supernatural surrender if he has unit advantage? Or did deto simply confuse his units with supernatural's?

[~SuMpFiN~]

MY PM to dark7
We're matched for ironman.
My times are: (GMT)
Mon, Tues and Friday: 4-5:30pm (only possible guaranteed times. If you can't get a game in those times tell me your times and I'll have a go at trying to get on one of them but cannot guarantee. Good Luck.

[xEaglex]

Yeah that Deto Supernat game is kind of iffy; there are so many units on the field.


I am free every weekday between 10:30pm -4am. GMT-4

What's your schedule look like?

And to Isaac: Can you be online during those times? If not, I will have to PM you back on Monday and see if I can free something up.

Sent to Dream

[Magician]

Detonation vs ~supernatural~
Winner: Detonation
Units remaining: 5
Gg man :).
S/s of end game: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=dy94qt&s=3
Do I really need the s/s of the starting game? If so, let me know because I have it too.

Firstly, I'd appreciate if you posted the original s/s.

Secondly, if you won by 5, that would make you brown, correct? Drag = 2, after all. Furthermore, I'm definitely sure that game was not played to its completion, as you were requested to do. Simply, Supernatural could have easily taken another unit, especially if he's green. Drag burn&scout shot, for example.

Could you two please replay from that position? Thanks.

Also, regarding Lieu's match - I've had some time to think about it, and I've realised I've been a bit of a twat over it. The result stands. I'm not here to punish good play. As sceptical as some of you may be, if I find there has been any cheating/morality issues, I have no problem issuing DQs straight up, possibly including TAL bans.

[Lieutenant]

Firstly, I'd appreciate if you posted the original s/s.

Secondly, if you won by 5, that would make you brown, correct? Drag = 2, after all. Furthermore, I'm definitely sure that game was not played to its completion, as you were requested to do. Simply, Supernatural could have easily taken another unit, especially if he's green. Drag burn&scout shot, for example.

Could you two please replay from that position? Thanks.

Also, regarding Lieu's match - I've had some time to think about it, and I've realised I've been a bit of a twat over it. The result stands. I'm not here to punish good play. As sceptical as some of you may be, if I find there has been any cheating/morality issues, I have no problem issuing DQs straight up, possibly including TAL bans.

That means I have to replay?:dry:

[kingedward]

Shurt left TAO, didn't he?

[Niveus]

this is a seriously flawed tourney and may the winner be the biggest noob of us all ^_^

[xEaglex]

I think Mag means that a starting s/s isn't necessary if the opponent confirms, so Lieu would be good to go right?

However, it is still best to make that starting s/s just in case.

[Lieutenant]

Well, all I know is that if it means what you said Eagle, I'm going to stop goofing around, and taking the necessary screenshots.

[Magician]

Well, all I know is that if it means what you said Eagle, I'm going to stop goofing around, and taking the necessary screenshots.

It means I've let you off the hook this time, so to speak. ;)

[steve12]

this is a seriously flawed tourney and may the winner be the biggest noob of us all ^_^

Yeah, but I've been spectating and none of it appears to be Mag's fault. He stated what he wanted the participants to do, and some of them are forgetting screenshots and refusing to finish games. How is that an Ironman? Shame on you players! :p

[Niveus]

Yeah it would be one thing if the tourney was how mag actualy intended it to be but trust me its definatly the opposit.

[Rubbish]

We have a new tourney nazi on town. :p

[heartagram69]

I have a question for you Mag. Say player X plays player Y. Player X wins by 6, losing his cleric, scout, mud golem and knight. Next round player X plays player Z and flawlesses him. Would player X be entitled to return 2 units to the field since he didn't lose any units that round but was missing units?

On one hand it makes sense to me to reward a flawless with less than 10 units by returning units lost previously, on the other hand it could be unfair if said person was matched with someone who had only a clerc, scout, frost golem left. Just wondering.

[heartagram69]

You lost 4 pieces and since only 2 will come back you won't be able to use the same starting setup anyway. Not to mention we pretty much can figure your starting setup out from the ending screen shot + lost units. So, keeping it a secret seems pretty pointless to me.

Oh, and I think it's pretty obvious you will be reviving the cleric and wisp. :p So, your next round setup should look a little something like this (http://snipurl.com/2idys), right? More or less?

Not at all Vintage :P

EDIT: apologies for the double post :P

[vintage]

Not at all Vintage :P

Hmmm, I'll believe it when I see it. ( Which should be next round if people follow the rules. ;) )

[Magician]

We have a new tourney nazi on town. :p
Yeah, because the half-dozen of you trying to tell me how to do my job clearly aren't enough.

heartagram, if you win your match, you're granted 2 units to revive. So, based on your analogy, yes you would be allowed to revive the extra two units.

[kingedward]

And...Shurt quit TAO? No one answered me.

[heartagram69]

Yeah, because the half-dozen of you trying to tell me how to do my job clearly aren't enough.

heartagram, if you win your match, you're granted 2 units to revive. So, based on your analogy, yes you would be allowed to revive the extra two units.

Ah k nice :cool:

[Pxndx]

Pxndx vs Wisher
Draw game

Comments: It was same side, I accidentally pass turn on a crucial point of the game, It almost cost me the game.

s/s upon request

So do we play again Mag?

[Wisher]

me and Pxndx played..it was a draw game and we are wondering what happens now? It was my DT on full health next to my full LW vs his 29 and 50 health knights. should we just rematch?

[heartagram69]

me and Pxndx played..it was a draw game and we are wondering what happens now? It was my DT on full health next to my full LW vs his 29 and 50 health knights. should we just rematch?

Both kinda screwed for next round then aren't ya ;)

[Lieutenant]

Eh, if I were Pxndx and/or Wisher, I'm sure I'd of gone for draw instead of 2-3 unit win. :p

[~SUPERNATURAL~]

Who said we had to play the game to the end? I just don't want my opponent to go to the next round with 1 or 2 units plus his revived units. And yeah I had a unit advantage but my dragon was on 14HP I believe, the knight behind it was 19HP and the one in the bottom corner was on 16HP I think. The rest of my units were full.

[Rubbish]

It's only fair for everyone else SUPER.

[I'malive24/7]

yeah. That's why i played Lieu all the way through, even though I knew I'd lose. THat's compromising the fairness of the tourney.

[Sniper Master]

Well Dark*Dragon isn't very active...he hasn't been online for the past four days. I don't know how we are going to get this game on if he doesn't even come online..Anyone know his in game name so I can try to catch him online?

[I'malive24/7]

Hmm, it will be interesting to see how Mag treats DQs...

[Lieutenant]

And...Shurt quit TAO? No one answered me.

I believe not. I've seen him in GL and forums.

[Rubbish]

Hmm, it will be interesting to see how Mag treats DQs...
Probably the way that pils suggested.

[Lieutenant]

Well Dark*Dragon isn't very active...he hasn't been online for the past four days. I don't know how we are going to get this game on if he doesn't even come online..Anyone know his in game name so I can try to catch him online?

If you really want to play him, look for him in Banff, and you'll find him at midday. If you want him to DQ, then just wait. :p

[powza]

Sent to lil monter:


We are due to play for this tourney. I am GMT+10

I can play Wed-Fri this week after 6PM

Any good?

~powza

[Detonation]

By the way, for those who are interested on seeing the s/s, I'll soon post it.



But regarding deto vs. Supernatural game, there is no way in which deto could have won only by 5. I see the game, and green has 6 units, and brown has 5. If I read correctly, deto said he won by 5, which would mean... why would Supernatural surrender if he has unit advantage? Or did deto simply confuse his units with supernatural's? I am brown, and only because he had one more unit than me doesn't mean he was in position of winning or killing other units. All his units were one hit dead except scout and knight. The end game was based on HP and wait turns.


Firstly, I'd appreciate if you posted the original s/s.

Secondly, if you won by 5, that would make you brown, correct? Drag = 2, after all. Furthermore, I'm definitely sure that game was not played to its completion, as you were requested to do. Simply, Supernatural could have easily taken another unit, especially if he's green. Drag burn&scout shot, for example.

Could you two please replay from that position? Thanks.


I am brown, his dragon was 14hp and it was my turn, I could kill dragon from the back with my scout that has no turn waits, my dragon had 55 hp, his other knight had 16 hp as well. The other one of his knights was 19 hp health. My knight that can kill the 16 hp knight was 38 hp health just like supernatural said. The only units that could probablly do something were his knight and scout. All my units were almost full health. You never requested games to be played to its completion, which is what I said about lieu's game and he didn't even posted a s/s of his end game. So do you still want me to replay from that position when lieu doesn't even have a s/s of his game? I

Who said we had to play the game to the end? I just don't want my opponent to go to the next round with 1 or 2 units plus his revived units. And yeah I had a unit advantage but my dragon was on 14HP I believe, the knight behind it was 19HP and the one in the bottom corner was on 16HP I think. The rest of my units were full.
Supernatural just confirmed what I said.

[vintage]

Match: Vintage vs. The Professor
Winner: The Professor
Comments: Good game. I held him off for a while and then when I realized I had lost I just decided to just take out any unit I could get my grubby little paws on. He ended up with 3 knights.
s/s: I'll let him post them.

[The Professor?]

The Professor? vs. Vintage
Winner: The Professor?
Comments: Pretty good game. He had a huge set advantage. His turt vs. my anti, opposite side. Luckily, I knew that set inside an out, and I had a general idea on how to take it out. I started by positioning my units getting ready for an attack. I had some little blocks that helped me get into position, but then it seemed that all luck left me.

I had a knight kill for over 80 %, but it blocked, which hurt bad, since it cost me another turn which might have saved some units. But while He picked off all my range, I got knight, scout, and Frost (the main key in his turt formation) which allowed me to to be agressive despite having no range units. After that i just outlasted him, And won by 3 knights. Good game Vintage.

S/S: http://img294.imageshack.us/my.php?image=winvsvintageka9.jpg

[Lieutenant]

I am brown, and only because he had one more unit than me doesn't mean he was in position of winning or killing other units. All his units were one hit dead except scout and knight. The end game was based on HP and wait turns.



I am brown, his dragon was 14hp and it was my turn, I could kill dragon from the back with my scout that has no turn waits, my dragon had 55 hp, his other knight had 16 hp as well. The other one of his knights was 19 hp health. My knight that can kill the 16 hp knight was 38 hp health just like supernatural said. The only units that could probablly do something were his knight and scout. All my units were almost full health. You never requested games to be played to its completion, which is what I said about lieu's game and he didn't even posted a s/s of his end game. So do you still want me to replay from that position when lieu doesn't even have a s/s of his game? I


Supernatural just confirmed what I said.

I thought it was enough with sending my image to mag. Oh well, I guess I'll simply post it.
No need to get pissy on me deto, I just thought game wasn't over. Maybe you should've cleared out health before. :p

[steve12]

Eh, you know what.. This could end very badly.

Say you have a bunch of skilled players on one side of the bracket playing each other and one mismatch (which results in a flawless), and the somewhat even matches see the winner having 2-3 units left. The person who flawlessed the weaker guy in the first round is going to have an easy time the whole way to the end, since he will most likely win by at least 8 units (allowing him to have 10 again for the next round) against the guys who were left with only 3 units + 2 revived. As the rounds progress it will probably get easier for the person who flawlessed in Round 1 (6 on 5 games will probably result in someone winning by 2-3 units, only netting him 5 units to carry over to the next round).

It would take several rounds for a skilled player who beat another decent player in Round 1 by only 2-4 units to rebound from such a disadvantage to the guy who had it easy at first, and he would have to get VERY lucky for that to happen (he'd have to win, first of all, and win with almost all of his units to build up the total again).

So I'd just like to throw it out there that Round 1 is possibly the most important round of this tournament. Hopefully many people finish with at least 8 units left so it's not such an unbalanced tournament. I just think everyone should play out all of their games... but I don't think the actual idea for the tourny was completely thought out. Just my 2 cents.

[Lord Sesshomaru]

I missed signing up for my own tourney?
Man this really blows... Mag I REALLY wish you would have PM'd me to tell me when you were kicking this thing off...

This seriously sucks balls... :dry:

[Lieutenant]

Eh, you know what.. This could end very badly.

Say you have a bunch of skilled players on one side of the bracket playing each other and one mismatch (which results in a flawless), and the somewhat even matches see the winner having 2-3 units left. The person who flawlessed the weaker guy in the first round is going to have an easy time the whole way to the end, since he will most likely win by at least 8 units (allowing him to have 10 again for the next round) against the guys who were left with only 3 units + 2 revived. As the rounds progress it will probably get easier for the person who flawlessed in Round 1 (6 on 5 games will probably result in someone winning by 2-3 units, only netting him 5 units to carry over to the next round).

It would take several rounds for a skilled player who beat another decent player in Round 1 by only 2-4 units to rebound from such a disadvantage to the guy who had it easy at first, and he would have to get VERY lucky for that to happen (he'd have to win, first of all, and win with almost all of his units to build up the total again).

So I'd just like to throw it out there that Round 1 is possibly the most important round of this tournament. Hopefully many people finish with at least 8 units left so it's not such an unbalanced tournament. I just think everyone should play out all of their games... but I don't think the actual idea for the tourny was completely thought out. Just my 2 cents.


Well, isn't this an Ironman Tournament? The point of this is not to win as quick as you can, it's about winning with a great quantity. Whether you do it or not, is up to you.

[steve12]

Well, isn't this an Ironman Tournament? The point of this is not to win as quick as you can, it's about winning with a great quantity. Whether you do it or not, is up to you.

I know that.. But think about it. If there happened to be few mismatches in Round 1 those guys are pretty much going a long way. Plus, people aren't playing out the entire games.. making it less accurate. I think people need to understand that this isn't as accurate as it looks. Round 1 is huge.

[Lieutenant]

From what I've seen, there are about 4-5 really paired up matches in Round 1, where winner could go either way.

[steve12]

I know, but just a handful of flawlesses will make the winners of those paired up matches obsolete. It's pretty easy to flawless (or at least win by 8 units) someone when you have 10 units and they have 4-5 units. The 2 unit revival doesn't make it much of an Ironman, but I see the intentions. I'm just thinking about this and know that at least a few of the First Round games are going to be by a lot, and that's going to offset the tournament a lot.

[Lieutenant]

Well, it will be a mix-up, in the end the best ones will endure. That works out in every tourney.

[steve12]

Heh, I'm going to stick with what I think.. I think you'll see in later rounds that the Round 1 match-ups influence the outcome of the tournament the most. We'll see, though. :)

[Lord Sesshomaru]

I know, but just a handful of flawlesses will make the winners of those paired up matches obsolete. It's pretty easy to flawless (or at least win by 8 units) someone when you have 10 units and they have 4-5 units. The 2 unit revival doesn't make it much of an Ironman, but I see the intentions. I'm just thinking about this and know that at least a few of the First Round games are going to be by a lot, and that's going to offset the tournament a lot.

My unit revival idea comes from the first round.
I don't think ANYONE is going to make it out of the first round without a substantial unit loss. If you only had the 3 units you won the match with in the first round, it would just be luck at what you had left.

Example: I win my match with a Frosty, a Knight, and a Cleric. My opponent has a Knight and a Cleric for the next. Catch my drift? Bring 2 random units back to make it fair.

I apologize for not really thinking the whole DQ issue through, that was dumb on my part, though I liked Pils idea.

Though I'm still pretty pissed off that I don't get to play in my own tourney. Thanks again Mag. :dry:

[steve12]

My unit revival idea comes from the first round.
I don't think ANYONE is going to make it out of the first round without a substantial unit loss. If you only had the 3 units you won the match with in the first round, it would just be luck at what you had left.



I understand what you are getting at, but if someone wins by a lot, how do the other guys (assuming they only come out with 3 units) break that down? They can't.

Please don't get me wrong, though. This is a very unique idea, one that I would probably come up with. But after you look at it, I don't think it's going to flow smoothly with TAO. 10 units vs. 3 units doesn't equal win by 7 units. It probably means win by 9-10 units. It all depends on the matchups of Round 1 in my opinion. I guess we'll just have to see, though.

[Lord Sesshomaru]

I see what you're getting at Steve.
A LOT rides on the first match, and who you're matched against, but again, this is freestyle. The chances of someone completely blowing out someone in the first round are pretty slim. If it happens, then hey, you deserve the reward of keeping your units.

But like you said, we'll see how this plays out. I'd really like to see it work.

[pils]

Cool, I've never played abhi in free. This ought to be fun.
Sending my PM now.

[xEaglex]

I'd rather not post any public s/s to preserve my setup. I can PM you both the starting and ending s/s though. And if you yell at me then I will go ahead and make them public by posting them here :(

Anyway. \

xEaglex vs. Dream

xEaglex wins by 9.

Started with Dragon, LW, 2 scout, 2 knight, stone, cleric, frost

Ended with only losing the LW.

[Lord Sesshomaru]

XEagleX by 9?! :eek:

I gotta say man, nice start :)

[Lieutenant]

And I thought I had a good start! :angry:

[The Professor?]

I bet anything it was opposite side.

[mino]

And...Shurt quit TAO? No one answered me.

He tried.

[xEaglex]

I bet anything it was opposite side.

Wrong ;) We played out to the end too.

So Mag, is it ok if I PM you the s/s or do I have to post them in this thread?

[Lieutenant]

I understand what you are getting at, but if someone wins by a lot, how do the other guys (assuming they only come out with 3 units) break that down? They can't.

Please don't get me wrong, though. This is a very unique idea, one that I would probably come up with. But after you look at it, I don't think it's going to flow smoothly with TAO. 10 units vs. 3 units doesn't equal win by 7 units. It probably means win by 9-10 units. It all depends on the matchups of Round 1 in my opinion. I guess we'll just have to see, though.

Your cases are very hipotetical. You make it seem as 4 people win by 8, and 20 by 2 units.
If people realize how important Round 1 is, then they'll see how well they have to play.

[The Butcher]

PM to DMD

I am acctually GMT - 4, sorry for the confusion.

Hello DMD,

We have a game to play for the ironman tournament. I was unlucky enough to get you in the first round in my worst style :(

Anyway, I am in USA, EST. Which is GMT - 5. I can play tomorrow, tuesday, anytime after 6PM my time, or thursday after 6PM my time. Monday, Wednesday and Friday i won't be available. As for the weekend, im pretty flexible. Please send me your times and im sure we can work something out.

[DMD]

My Reply:

Hello DMD,

We have a game to play for the ironman tournament. I was unlucky enough to get you in the first round in my worst style :(

Anyway, I am in USA, EST. Which is GMT - 5. I can play tomorrow, tuesday, anytime after 6PM my time, or thursday after 6PM my time. Monday, Wednesday and Friday i won't be available. As for the weekend, im pretty flexible. Please send me your times and im sure we can work something out.

Can we set our match for 10 PM EST on Tuesday?

Let me know if this works; It should, it fits your schedule.

Thanks,
DMD

[skev21]

Hey we're set for the first round.

I'm GMT +1 due to DST and can play:
Today probably until around 1130pm
Tomorrow from 930pm until 11pm but would need to have a game scheduled for this time before tomorrow in order to make it.
Weds from 530pm until 8pm and maybe longer but I can let you know.
Thurs from 530pm until 1130pm.
Friday and Saturday are very unlikely. Let me know if any of this works for you and hope to catch you soon mate.

PM sent.

[FiReBrAnD]

Lemon and myself are set to play tomorrow at 1pm my time.

[pils]

Haven't heard back from abhi yet. But I'm sure we will get the game done, I usually see him on AIM every time I log in.

[The Butcher]

Me and DMD are to play tomorrow night.

Hello DMD,

We have a game to play for the ironman tournament. I was unlucky enough to get you in the first round in my worst style :(

Anyway, I am in USA, EST. Which is GMT - 5. I can play tomorrow, tuesday, anytime after 6PM my time, or thursday after 6PM my time. Monday, Wednesday and Friday i won't be available. As for the weekend, im pretty flexible. Please send me your times and im sure we can work something out.

Can we set our match for 10 PM EST on Tuesday?

Let me know if this works; It should, it fits your schedule.

Thanks,
DMD


Yeah but its a little late for me, i work at 8AM every day.

Could you possibly do 9PM?

Yeah, sure.

Sounds good, 9PM EST time, tomorrow night.

[skev21]

skev21 vs Elimination
winner skev21
s/s if needed

Started with LW furgy 3 knights mud 2 scouts frost and cleric and was same sides against his turtle mud stone frosty furgy 2 scouts cleric and 3 knights. I got a saving scout side which allowed me to kill his cleric, I still had him on the back foot due to my mud presuring him and other scout nearby but it definitely gave me a huge advantage. I ended up losing my muddy and a knight. Was a good game but the luck definitely helped me out alot. gg mate.

[Magician]

I am brown, and only because he had one more unit than me doesn't mean he was in position of winning or killing other units. All his units were one hit dead except scout and knight. The end game was based on HP and wait turns.



I am brown, his dragon was 14hp and it was my turn, I could kill dragon from the back with my scout that has no turn waits, my dragon had 55 hp, his other knight had 16 hp as well. The other one of his knights was 19 hp health. My knight that can kill the 16 hp knight was 38 hp health just like supernatural said. The only units that could probablly do something were his knight and scout. All my units were almost full health. You never requested games to be played to its completion, which is what I said about lieu's game and he didn't even posted a s/s of his end game. So do you still want me to replay from that position when lieu doesn't even have a s/s of his game?


Supernatural just confirmed what I said.

Clearly there still is the possibility of Supernatural killing at least one unit, especially with unit advantage. Yes, I want you to continue your match to its end. Also, you may want to recheck the rules. I editted it in there when you suggested it. ;)

Finally, I've already seen the result of Lieu's match, though I'm not sure why he didn't post it here.

Wrong ;) We played out to the end too.

So Mag, is it ok if I PM you the s/s or do I have to post them in this thread?

Feel free to PM them to me, though I'd rather if you posted the end result on the forums.

For those interested, DQs will be sorted through Pils' suggestion. It's the most feasible and fair idea anyone's brought forward.

[Pxndx]

So what happens to Wisher and I. Do we need to play again?

[Magician]

Sorry, I completely missed your post. Yes, please replay the match.

[Pxndx]

Sorry, I completely missed your post. Yes, please replay the match.

Cool.

[Magician]

Who said we had to play the game to the end? I just don't want my opponent to go to the next round with 1 or 2 units plus his revived units. And yeah I had a unit advantage but my dragon was on 14HP I believe, the knight behind it was 19HP and the one in the bottom corner was on 16HP I think. The rest of my units were full.

I'd pull the quote out from the signups thread, but y'all should have read that in the first place. ;)

skev21 vs Elimination
winner skev21
s/s if needed

Started with LW furgy 3 knights mud 2 scouts frost and cleric and was same sides against his turtle mud stone frosty furgy 2 scouts cleric and 3 knights. I got a saving scout side which allowed me to kill his cleric, I still had him on the back foot due to my mud presuring him and other scout nearby but it definitely gave me a huge advantage. I ended up losing my muddy and a knight. Was a good game but the luck definitely helped me out alot.

Please post the end-game s/s, and you can either post or PM me the start-of-game s/s.

[skev21]

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/9066/elimwinik0.png

PM sent.

[Maverik07]

Well, after receiving Elven's times, i responded and gave him a time within his time period for today, but i never received a confirmation of that time until just now, so i made other plans. I sent him another time for Thursday, so hopefully we'll play then.

[powza]

I am still waiting for this little monster to reply to my PM.

I doubt he will though. I think hes a massive n00b

[Detonation]

Clearly there still is the possibility of Supernatural killing at least one unit, especially with unit advantage. Yes, I want you to continue your match to its end. Also, you may want to recheck the rules. I editted it in there when you suggested it. ;)

Finally, I've already seen the result of Lieu's match, though I'm not sure why he didn't post it here.





Fine, I just PM'ed supernatural again to see when we can continue the game, I didn't know you made my suggestion an official rule.

[~SuMpFiN~]

No reply from Dark7 yet, I'll resend my PM.
My new PM:
We have 5 days left to play. I am free today from 9am-5:30pm GMT. Only other guaranteed time i can make is Fri 4pm-5:30pm. If you cant make either of these, send me your times and I'll try and get on them.

[skev21]

So much for the average number of units lost being 5.

[Dark7]

Magi please allow sumfin to take the win over me, i actually had some important stuff come up and am def not going to be able to get the game in.

[Take a Look]

I guess it's pretty easy to cheat here. I am sure if someone realizes that he has lost a game, he will surrender, instead of trying to kill more units.

[pils]

I still think the best way to go about this is to apply the averaging thing to everyone. So that everyone is on fair ground throughout the tournament.
Think of it this way, since this is an "ironman tournament."

Does Ironman really need his armor and suit to kick a cat? Because thats what its gonna be like when its Eagle vs someone in the final with 8 units vs 4...

[Lieutenant]

I still think the best way to go about this is to apply the averaging thing to everyone. So that everyone is on fair ground throughout the tournament.
Think of it this way, since this is an "ironman tournament."

Does Ironman really need his armor and suit to kick a cat? Because thats what its gonna be like when its Eagle vs someone in the final with 8 units vs 4...

I think it would be fair, as long as evey single match is more or less done randomly by those who are in good and bad shape.

[FiReBrAnD]

lemon won by 3 knights.

He had the standard free set that most people use and got same side against my turt, was pretty much on the defensive the entire time and really couldn't do much because he was smart enough to rush his knights in..(Even though I don't understand why you rushed your mud in so early :P)

None-the-less it was a well played game.

[lemon_]

Matchup: lemon vs Firebrand
Winner: lemon
Comments: Ehh, same side antirush versus his turtle. He played well and took out quite a few of my units. I've won by three knights.
Screenie on request.

edit: no video, sadly. Was playing on computer that aint mine.

[~ElVeN~BlOoD~]

nice win lemon, did you make this one a video?

[xEaglex]

I still think the best way to go about this is to apply the averaging thing to everyone. So that everyone is on fair ground throughout the tournament.
Think of it this way, since this is an "ironman tournament."

Does Ironman really need his armor and suit to kick a cat? Because thats what its gonna be like when its Eagle vs someone in the final with 8 units vs 4...

What incentive do people have to preserve units then? I'm sure if this rule is implemented, this will simply become like a regular 5 unit freestyle ODT.

And if the rules change mid-tourny, I don't think it would be fair to those of us who have already deliberately played to preserve units in the first round.

[pils]

What incentive do people have to preserve units then? I'm sure if this rule is implemented, this will simply become like a regular 5 unit freestyle ODT.

And if the rules change mid-tourny, I don't think it would be fair to those of us who have already deliberately played to preserve units in the first round.

The point of preserving units would be for 1, a bit of an honor system, in spirite of the tournament. In the same way that people are expected to play all the way through, rather than surrendering early to give their opponents an advantage in the next round. And 2, to keep the averages up for the next round(s).
And I would prefer a 5 unit freestyle ODT over a 8 vs 4 slaughter any day....

But yeah, I don't know.... Its not my call, I'm just tossin out suggestions.

[Niveus]

Change second round to a 5unit tourney >: )

[Lieutenant]

I have different feelings as for this. I know that right now, people that didn't win by many units want those who did to throw all advantage away so we can play ourselves. If this tournament would've had Brackets from the very beginning, there would be no whinning as to winning by 2 or 6 units, because you simply know you had tough luck with brackets, and the other person did a good job there.

Then again, since there are no brackets, people feel that they should make up the brackets themselves.

If it were done like that, I'm sure everyone could arrange games in GS so they could all play the easy ones and have it arranged their way.

[The Butcher]

I agree with Mag.

People who win by alot of units should have the advantage. Plain and simple.

If you barely squeaked by and won by 1 or 2, thats just how it is.

Why is this so controversial?

Or am i misunderstanding everyones gripe?

(Lieu your not including in the above sentence, because your gripe about everything :p)

[pils]

I agree with Mag.

People who win by alot of units should have the advantage. Plain and simple.

If you barely squeaked by and won by 1 or 2, thats just how it is.

Why is this so controversial?

Or am i misunderstanding everyones gripe?

(Lieu your not including in the above sentence, because your gripe about everything :p)

Why should player A have an advantage over player B just because player A got a noob in the first round, and player B got a skilled opponent?

[~ElVeN~BlOoD~]

luck of the draw.
i like it.:p

[The Butcher]

Why should player A have an advantage over player B just because player A got a noob in the first round, and player B got a skilled opponent?

Ah, i see your point.

And i see why you wanted the seedings.

But i have to agree with elven here, the tourny has already started. Its a very unique idea. Might as well let it run its course and see how it comes out. If tweaks are needed, they can be done for the next time.

[skev21]

Why should player A have an advantage over player B just because player A got a noob in the first round, and player B got a skilled opponent?

I beat elim by 8, since when was he a noob. I admit I got a bit of luck, but I still feel that a rule change after the tourney started would be total bullshit and I would pull out.

[Hatchet Warrior]

I've been on at that times bobo listed he could be on and he hasn't been on.

[pils]

Oh yeah... Abhi still hasn't responded.

[Rubbish]

Yeah nothing back from Xiahou either.

[Sniper Master]

Dark*Dragon hasn't even sent me one PM...this sucks.

[Lieutenant]

Well, I really like the idea of this tournament. I didn't think too many people would actually argue for the fact of matches.
People think that all matches will consist of 10-4. I assure people that there will be at least some where it will be 10-10 or 10-8. Without a doubt. People simply like to put the worst of scenarios to actually make the tourney look like a total failure.

[pils]

Well, I really like the idea of this tournament. I didn't think too many people would actually argue for the fact of matches.
People think that all matches will consist of 10-4. I assure people that there will be at least some where it will be 10-10 or 10-8. Without a doubt. People simply like to put the worst of scenarios to actually make the tourney look like a total failure.

No I don't think all matches would be like that. But it is certainly a very real and unfair possibility.

[skev21]

Pils, it isn't unfair. Simply because there aren't any noobs in the first round. Look at the standard of players that have lost heavilly so far.

[Magician]

I have different feelings as for this. I know that right now, people that didn't win by many units want those who did to throw all advantage away so we can play ourselves. If this tournament would've had Brackets from the very beginning, there would be no whinning as to winning by 2 or 6 units, because you simply know you had tough luck with brackets, and the other person did a good job there.

Then again, since there are no brackets, people feel that they should make up the brackets themselves.

If it were done like that, I'm sure everyone could arrange games in GS so they could all play the easy ones and have it arranged their way.

Look at the draw. Look at it closely. If you noticed, I made brackets, did seedings, and yet you STILL complain? Some people are impossible to please. :dry:

[Lieutenant]

I didn't know there were brackets, sorry.
I meant as in GS brackets where you could see all your different opponents for next round.

[Rubbish]

I thought Mag and Lieu were friends.

[Magician]

We are. My response would have been the same regardless of who made that comment.

Furthermore, Lieu was foremost adamant that I seed this tournament in the signups thread, so to hear him say that after I had already said I would seed this tournament did annoy me.

[Mithrandir]

LT and I have been discussing a tournament very similar to this for a while. I asked him to shelve it until next season (speaking of which Mag, you owe LT an apology for not contacting me before starting this thing, resulting in seriously upstaging an idea he has been trying to enact for a while). LT and I struggled because practically speaking, making everything fair in this tournament is, in my opinion, next to impossible. From what I've seen, Mag is doing an excellent job of making it as fair as it can be, but it won't be nearly perfect, because I don't think it can be. But then again, you guys should have seen that when you signed up for the tournament, so don't harrass him now. You should have known what you were signing up for, and known that luck will be a factor. A big one.

By the way, I just saw Iron Man again. That movie is so awesome. :)

[shurtugal]

My PM sent to Kinged.

You and me play for the ironman tourny, My time is GMT -6.

I have exams thursday and friday though, so I am only available at 4-5:30 PM on Thursday, and basicly all day on Friday.

[the bored king]

Beginning s/s of me vs veil
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/962/veil1yi2.png
His d/c healths on his units all mine were full except 1 scout on 35
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/5255/veil2oh1.png
I had just passed turn and 30 seconds later the d/c happened

[Rubbish]

Still looks a bit close, you should replay that from there.

[Niveus]

I said the same thing to mag pils he said you need to play conservative lmao. Lord White vs stiv for example how are we supposed to be conservative? While for example mag vs someone like deepsea. Not to mention some conservative forms will get straight up raped. In reality everyone has to use there best form and try to get very lucky.

[kingedward]

Shurt and my PM's:

You and me play for the ironman tourny, My time is GMT -6.

I have exams thursday and friday though, so I am only available at 4-5:30 PM on Thursday, and basicly all day on Friday.

I'm GMT -4 with DST, I think, (9:23pm right now) and Thursday I can try 5pm your time, 7pm mine. I don't know my Friday hours yet, I'll let you know them if I don't make Thursday.

[Veilmenacex]

u think we should replay ...? sorry about the d/c bored connection sucks at school right now a lot of ppl using internet

[The Butcher]

Me and DMD were scheduled for 9PM EST tonight, its 9:30PM and he didn't show.

I may have screwed up the times, im known to do that, but i don't think so.

I'll wait for him to PM me, i have no problem working out a new game time.

[Magician]

Please replay from that position, veil and bored.

[DMD]

Me and DMD were scheduled for 9PM EST tonight, its 9:30PM and he didn't show.

I may have screwed up the times, im known to do that, but i don't think so.

I'll wait for him to PM me, i have no problem working out a new game time.

No you were ok, it's completely my fault. My sister graduated today from highschool, and it ran late. That's why I orginally wanted the game at 10 PM EST.

I can usually do any games late, just let me know what's up for your scheduale for after 10 PM.

[Zander]

Forgot about my game with isaac-z today, although I was here on the forums at the scheduled time I received no message from him, so I assume he forgot as well. He's online now, I've just seen, but I'm not available to play now & will try and reschedule.

[Isaac-Z]

No, I was waiting for u on Rev.

[xEaglex]

Are the details of the Veil/Bored game really true?

How did Veil only do 47 damage on the mud, and no damage to anything else? He's in a ridiculously aggressive position, and its hard to believe that he's not really doing any damage while getting himself pounded on. o_0

[Master TAO]

lets play our hearts out boys, we can only hope for 3v3in the finals, the way it should be ^^

[Ricky-X]

Inc Inc. I can play 10 pm to 12 pm GMT -5 or 7 am to 10 am but more probably 10 to 12 pm

[Lieutenant]

One question. If on Round 2, Winner of Game 1 vs Winner of Game 2, would that mean I play Skev. Or are matches done randomly?

[Pxndx]

Pxndx vs Wisher
Winner: Pxndx

Comments: I won by 6, good game wisher.

I'll post both s/s tomorrow.

[Magician]

One question. If on Round 2, Winner of Game 1 vs Winner of Game 2, would that mean I play Skev. Or are matches done randomly?

It's a bracket. :p

So, yes, you'll be playing Skev in the next round. Convenient, given the squabbles in the brief history of this thread, but not deliberate.

[~SuMpFiN~]

Magi please allow sumfin to take the win over me, i actually had some important stuff come up and am def not going to be able to get the game in.

Mag not sure if you saw this post.

[Lieutenant]

It's a bracket. :p

So, yes, you'll be playing Skev in the next round. Convenient, given the squabbles in the brief history of this thread, but not deliberate.

I must imagine I have to wait until next week to actually get my game in, right? Anyways, I hope this satisfies people like steve12 or pils.

[Mithrandir]

I must imagine I have to wait until next week to actually get my game in, right? Anyways, I hope this satisfies people like steve12 or pils.

What exactly do you mean by this? It sounds an awful lot like a complaint, but I'm sure you wouldn't be stupid enough to complain about tournaments anymore, with the level of threat you are under. So please, explain.

[Lieutenant]

Well, actually it has been steve12 and pils who have been complaining about the match-ups. They say that it would be fair that the brackets were made so you would face those who have a load of units with similar folks. In this case, unfortunately, I am facing skev who will start this game with 10 units, just like me.

Have I explained myself?

[Mithrandir]

Have I explained myself?

Yup. Questions like this are inevitable considering the circumstances, and your previous quote seemed ambiguous. I'm glad you weren't complaining.

[Lieutenant]

Yup. Questions like this are inevitable considering the circumstances, and your previous quote seemed ambiguous. I'm glad you weren't complaining.

Heh, I've whined on forums since January, I think one or two months without me speaking shit is about fair. :p

[the bored king]

Are the details of the Veil/Bored game really true?

How did Veil only do 47 damage on the mud, and no damage to anything else? He's in a ridiculously aggressive position, and its hard to believe that he's not really doing any damage while getting himself pounded on. o_0

I had healed and he had only de stoned me a turn or so ago. His dragon had wait along with one or both scouts

[Lieutenant]

Mag, I just searched through this thread and the other one. And I was wondering something, will you treat double DQ as a bye or what? Example: let's say neither I'ma or I made a single effort on getting our game in. Would you pass any of us, or give a bye to the next person and hand the person waiting for us 2 more units? :confused:

EDIT: Is this considered whinning or complaining?

[skev21]

It's a bracket. :p

So, yes, you'll be playing Skev in the next round. Convenient, given the squabbles in the brief history of this thread, but not deliberate.

I'm probably being really stupid and I'm not complaining or whining, I'm just plain confused. Does that mean the first 2 games finished play each other next round??

[Lieutenant]

Skev, divide the brackets into 3 groups of 8. Then make 1 face 2, 3 with 4, and so on so forth. Let's just say that in the group that you and I are in, you're 5 and I'm 6.

[Ricky-X]

No clue of inc. inc. yet... When you can bro sent me the PM with your shedule.
But I'll remember my shedule 10 to 12 pm or 7 to 10 am.

[skev21]

Skev, divide the brackets into 3 groups of 8. Then make 1 face 2, 3 with 4, and so on so forth. Let's just say that in the group that you and I are in, you're 5 and I'm 6.

Still a bit confused, but whatever :p I can't play today because I'm meant to be playing Zad about now for GS4 and then I'm out. But we see each other on often enough, I will PM you though if we don't get it in soon.

[Veilmenacex]

Are the details of the Veil/Bored game really true?

How did Veil only do 47 damage on the mud, and no damage to anything else? He's in a ridiculously aggressive position, and its hard to believe that he's not really doing any damage while getting himself pounded on. o_0

bored king is trying to win obviously ... his frost is down to 14 from 2 scout hits mud quake and dt atk and his muds have also taken a toll from my attacks

[Magician]

Mag, I just searched through this thread and the other one. And I was wondering something, will you treat double DQ as a bye or what? Example: let's say neither I'ma or I made a single effort on getting our game in. Would you pass any of us, or give a bye to the next person and hand the person waiting for us 2 more units? :confused:

EDIT: Is this considered whinning or complaining?

If there was to be a double DQ, the same rules regarding DQs and units would be adhered to. That is to say it would be like having your original opponent DQ'd, so you'd still undergo average unit loss.

And no, it's not whining nor complaining, it's questioning. There's a subtle difference between the two. ;)

[Zander]

Isaaz won with two knights, dragon, cleric, frost golem remaining.
Units killed: mud golem, knight, two scouts.

It was a terrible, sloppy game. =p
At the end I was purely trying to take more of his units to prevent him having too many in the next round, but I missed a heal and lost one of my scouts earlier than I should've.

[Isaac-Z]

Zander Vs Legend Z
Winner: Legend Z
s/s if needed.
I won by 6 Units...
2 Knigths,Drag,fros,cleric.
i lost scouts(2) Muddy and a knight

[Hatchet Warrior]

I've been looking around the servers for the past hour on my HW account looking for bobo. I'll give him another 30 minutes, then i'll need to go for awhile.

[Maverik07]

Elven appears to be 30min late, but im still chilling on Rev, so hopefully he'll get on soon.

[pils]

Due to the vacation I will be taking, I am going to have to drop out of this tournament.
I'd prefer that you let abhi through to the next round, because he has a better chance at finishing a round 2 game than I do, because its possible he could come back...
This vacation didn't really occur to me when I signed up, so I'm sorry if this is an inconvenience. =/

[skev21]

Btw, random question and I think I know the answer. Say someone wins first round by 6 has 8 for the second and then doesn't lose a unit in their next game, can they bring 2 back from that second game??

[Maverik07]

Someone asked that earlier, i think it was heartagram, and Mag said yes.

EDIT: Elven is now an hour late. Im gonna bounce in a few more minutes if he doesnt show.

EDIT2: Elven is now two hours late. Im done waiting. He can reschedule with me if he wants to get this done.

[shurtugal]

Another PM sent to Kinged:

Hey, are you available to play any time today? Just send me the times if you are and I will tell you if I can make it.

[kingedward]

I didn't get that PM. But I did send one that said I would try for 5pm your time tonight...didn't I? Quote it in a sec.

EDIT: My bad, I did get that. But still, I thought I replied saying I would try for 5pm your time, 7pm mine.

[shurtugal]

I'll check, and I sent it to your personal messages.

[skev21]

Well it came down to my knight frost furgon LW and cleric against his cleric 2 knights scout. He wasn't happy about this as it became a very long game and in the end after a while of furgwhoring and no unit losses on either side Lieu said he had had enough. He doesn't want to replay from that point and says it is incredibly boring.
I'm not sure what to do, but with those units I am always going to furgwhore.
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8873/finishzl6.png frost on 30 his frozen knight on 39 everything else full.

[shurtugal]

Playing Kinged right now.

[Lieutenant]

Meh, I know that game is far from over. I am not replaying from that point. I have better things to do during an entire hour or two.

[shurtugal]

Me and Kinged are in a little situation here, he d/c'd.
http://s225.photobucket.com/albums/dd154/shurtugal929/?action=view&current=vskinged.jpg
My scout is at 14hp, 1 wait, his mud golem is under that, 17 hp, 1 wait, My mud golem is 47 hp, My knight is 34 hp.
Chances are my scout is dead unless it gets a side block, and his mud golem is dead no matter what.

[kingedward]

We decided to set it back up at our original agreed time.

[shurtugal]

I have our original sets in a recording as well.

[shurtugal]

Waiting in rev for kinged.

[~ElVeN~BlOoD~]

mav, im in re v right now.

[Maverik07]

Maverik07 vs ~Elven Blood~
Winner: Maverik07
Start s/s:http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q24/Maverik07/Ironman-beginning.jpg

End s/s:http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q24/Maverik07/Ironman-ending.jpg

Comments: I started off by attacking his lw and he started off by attacking my furgy, which i kinda allowed so as to allow me to get his lw. After i knew his lw was secured, i started shrubbing him off from my cleric side and started moving my attacking units to the other side. I would entice him out, then use all my attackers to finish the unit off.

[Lieutenant]

Woot. Another 10 vs. 10 match-up, xEaglex vs. Maverik07.

[Maverik07]

Where does it say that theres a bracket?

[~ElVeN~BlOoD~]

ya, i fricken sucked tonight....worst i've played in awhile.
I wasnt even paying atention to my LW until it was 6hp.

[kingedward]

Waiting in rev for kinged.

Yeah, I'm sorry. Friends ccalled, and we went golfing. :\

Hopefully I can catch you tomorrow.

[Sniper Master]

Well me and Dark*Dragon were playing and I d/ced halfway through the game. He says he took s/s so I told him we need to finish the game and he says he goes through next round with 10 units. -.-

[Lieutenant]

Where does it say that theres a bracket?

Well, according to the match-ups. Winner of Game 1 faces Winner of Game 2. And so on so forth. Unless I understood wrong, Skev and I were meant to face each other.

[Maverik07]

Eh, unless its stated pretty clearly somewhere, i would rather wait for Mag to tell me im playing Eagle.

[Ricky-X]

No clue of inc. inc. yet... When you can bro sent me the PM with your shedule.
But I'll remember my shedule 10 to 12 pm or 7 to 10 am.

PM me when you can.

[Stiven]

pm to proof?

for ironman tourney, what are you times avaliables?

my times are 4:00 to 8:00 pm at -5 hours gmt everyday.

We talk before about this, but i never seen him online xD.

[The Butcher]

-=DMD=- vs The Butcher
Winner: -=DMD=-
SS: he has them
Comments: I choose my preferred style with a turtle set, 2nd corner alpha furgy set with 3 knights instead of DT and LW. Was hoping for another turtle, same side preferred. He came with a semi rush, no mages, same side. Didnt have much of a chance. Little dissapointed, i took a gamble with the set and it didn't pay off. But he played brillantly, as usual. The one block i had the entire game cost him at least 2 units.

GG and good luck -=DMD=-.

EDIT: PS. oh yeah i forgot about that side hit on your scout.. funny how you get lucky when you don't need it. :dry:

[DMD]

=\

Me vs Butcher = DMD winner.

Comments: I won by 7... It would of been a flawless, but he blocked his 10 hp scout (70%) and killed my mud with that. Also, he killed my scout on a 30% side... which lead to the death of my other scout, which was frozen.

I would of been happier if luck had been even... now I have to play a unit down. I'll pm mag the s/s's.

It was a fun game though, thank you Butcher for a good game.

[Stiven]

Round 1.

Proof? vs Stiv, winner Stiv by 7 units (cleric,frost,3 knight, 2 scouts)

S/S (http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=proofover7unitshl2.jpg)

I want get back the dragon :).

[kingedward]

Shurt wins by a knight.

[shurtugal]

Well, if you didn't have luck, you'd have lost your dragon a turn earlier, saving one of my knights, side hit my knight, and frontal'd my pyro :p
Coulda won by 4:)
gg

[Magician]

shurt, could you please post the s/s?

[Wisher]

Shurt w/ 3 units for the next round, should be tough :!

[~SuMpFiN~]

Magi please allow sumfin to take the win over me, i actually had some important stuff come up and am def not going to be able to get the game in.

...

[~SUPERNATURAL~]

...

What's with the silence? You should be happy, free pass with 10 units still intact :)

[~SuMpFiN~]

I don't think Mag had seen it.

[Magician]

Sumpfin, please send me a pm with the units you intend to use throughout the tournament.

Thanks.

DQs will occur tonight, just a heads up.

[~SuMpFiN~]

I hadn't PMed them to king so I'll just post them here.

Cleric, Frost, Mud, DT, 2 Scout, 3 knights.

[skev21]

What's happening with me and Lieu then?

[Magician]

What's happening with me and Lieu then?

Nothing as of yet. ;)

[shurtugal]

shurt, could you please post the s/s?

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd154/shurtugal929/beatingkingedward.jpg

[skev21]

Nothing as of yet. ;)

Well do you want us to replay?

[Lieutenant]

Skev can take the win. I'm not playing one more hour. It is not in my interests to be in a game where shrubbing takes place every two turns, and we move around the entire board.

Other option is replaying from the beginning. :p

[Luzbel]

Seems like we have finally arranged a game for today.

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Hey LW, we've matched up to play int this tournament, my time zone is gmt-5 , im free to play anytime after 6 pm (monday to friday) and the weekends i could play at anytime after 12:00 pm , because im so lazy that i wont wake up too early XD, anyway, tell me what time zone is the one that you live on and lets arrange our match as soon as possible.

I am EST time. So idono exactly what times you are on just give me a time after 3pm est to meet you and ill get on.

Im online now if you want to play......

im at work thats why i said after 3


allright, ill try to be online.

Hey we arnt gonna do this ill try to be online stuff. Pick a time to meet me after 3pm est tommorow and ill be there. If we see each other today we can play aswell but lets keep a set time and date for security.


Is it ok for you 7:00pm gmt-5 tomorrow?

I dono what time that is est.


The time that this reply has been sent on is 5:17 pm (gmt-5), can we play tomorrow (Tuesday)at the the same time?, i dont know whats the est time, just give me a +/- gmt and ill try to set a decent time for both of us, if tomorrow is not possible for you.....

I can play tommorow idono what gmt time im just as dumb as you when it comes to time zones lol. Maybe if i give you my number that will help? If not ill be on tommorow.


Lulz, erm, i think we're both online now, but i still being at work, it finishes at 6:00 pm, then i have to pick my girlfriend at the mall, can we play in like 4 hrs?

Lets play today at 6:00 p.m. EST its 7:25am now

Sure, thats 5 pm for me.
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[Silver Coast]

This looked like a fun tourney..

:(

[Maverik07]

It is :)

[Silver Coast]

Don't make me feel bad..

I hate missing out on these things. TAO has lost its appeal to me, but I love tourneys. Whatever, enough of spamming this thread. :(

[Detonation]

I'm replaying ~supernatural~ right now.

Detonation vs ~supernatural~
Winner: Detonation by 2, we replayed from the same position and he blocked a 65% side block with his knight that costed my dragon -____-.
Gg anyways.


EDIT: I had a knight and scout left. I just PM'ed you the s/s's.

[Magician]

I'm replaying ~supernatural~ right now.

Detonation vs ~supernatural~
Winner: Detonation by 2, we replayed from the same position and he blocked a 65% side block with his knight that costed my dragon -____-.
Gg anyways.

What units do you have left over, and what units did you use at the start?

[Maverik07]

You wrote down that i had a dead mud, but it was actually a flawless... My mud is next to his furgy in the s/s

[Lieutenant]

Yo, Mag... yesterday I did the DQ thing. Maybe it will cut you some time. Anyways, 14 games were played, were 55 units were lost. Which means that it's like 3.9 units lost in this round, which would mean, people start next round with 6+2.

[~SUPERNATURAL~]

deto's on 2+2 lol while the average is 6+2!!!!

[Ricky-X]

inc inc I'm on rev let's play our game.

Edit: He surrender cuz He had to go but I have the s/s and I was winning... but Idk what you decide mag, I asked him for an opportunity to play again but he don't told me nothing -_- so I don't have all the time of the world, so Idk tell me if we need to play again or no...

[Magician]

inc inc I'm on rev let's play our game.

Edit: He surrender cuz He had to go but I have the s/s and I was winning... but Idk what you decide mag, I asked him for an opportunity to play again but he don't told me nothing -_- so I don't have all the time of the world, so Idk tell me if we need to play again or no...

PM me the s/s ASAP, so I can update the thread appropriately. If you can, replay, but I really want this tournament to move along, and I didn't quite finish with DQs last night.

[Magician]

Seems like we have finally arranged a game for today.

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Hey LW, we've matched up to play int this tournament, my time zone is gmt-5 , im free to play anytime after 6 pm (monday to friday) and the weekends i could play at anytime after 12:00 pm , because im so lazy that i wont wake up too early XD, anyway, tell me what time zone is the one that you live on and lets arrange our match as soon as possible.

I am EST time. So idono exactly what times you are on just give me a time after 3pm est to meet you and ill get on.

Im online now if you want to play......

im at work thats why i said after 3


allright, ill try to be online.

Hey we arnt gonna do this ill try to be online stuff. Pick a time to meet me after 3pm est tommorow and ill be there. If we see each other today we can play aswell but lets keep a set time and date for security.


Is it ok for you 7:00pm gmt-5 tomorrow?

I dono what time that is est.


The time that this reply has been sent on is 5:17 pm (gmt-5), can we play tomorrow (Tuesday)at the the same time?, i dont know whats the est time, just give me a +/- gmt and ill try to set a decent time for both of us, if tomorrow is not possible for you.....

I can play tommorow idono what gmt time im just as dumb as you when it comes to time zones lol. Maybe if i give you my number that will help? If not ill be on tommorow.


Lulz, erm, i think we're both online now, but i still being at work, it finishes at 6:00 pm, then i have to pick my girlfriend at the mall, can we play in like 4 hrs?

Lets play today at 6:00 p.m. EST its 7:25am now

Sure, thats 5 pm for me.
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No result from that match, eh?

[Magician]

DQs done, please see new thread for updates. Thanks. Sorry for being a day late.

[the bored king]

Why was i d/q'd when he disconnected and only gave me 1 hour period times to play?
Edit: You wanna see our pm's?