You gotta check this out

[choplocker-17]

The band just got 6 new songs on there myspace. Check it out
www.myspace.com/canaanmusic

[Jeffery]

Crap

[The Anti]

Eh, not my type.

[choplocker-17]

For anyone who listens to this. This is actual good rock. Not whinny crap rock like Panic at the disco or Fall out boy. If you like good music listen.

[savanna]

/shrug
MISFITS ARE BETTER

[Tama Drummer]

You're the drummer, right?

[plusminus]

Sounds like a giant medley of classic rock radio station clichés. But that's probably the sound your going for, so consider it a compliment.

But yeah this is totally your band isn't it.

[Liquid Swordsman]

/shrug
MISFITS ARE BETTER

misfits suck..

http://www.chartattack.com/features/99/misfits/misfits.jpg

no..

[savanna]

you suck.
yes.

[The Coder]

im in ur forumz


postin mah musiks.

I listened to all, and you aren't going anywhere.

[savanna]

the misfits are going everywhere.
why?
BECAUSE THEYRE AWESOME

[Zander]

im in ur forumz


postin mah musiks.

I listened to all, and you aren't going anywhere.
Aren't you the one that's always saying people don't like him?
Gee wiz.

[The Anti]

misfits suck..

http://www.chartattack.com/features/99/misfits/misfits.jpg

no..

Agreed.

[plusminus]

Agreed.

Says the dude with the Sum 41 avatar? :confused: *head explodes*

[The Anti]

I love how everyone makes fun of Sum 41. (Major rhym there, lol.)

I just think that the Misfits suck.

[Blexican]

Says the dude with the Sum 41 avatar? :confused: *head explodes*

im gonna go with, pwnt.

I didnt think it was bad in the least bit.. i didnt like the lyrics, but the music was great.

[The Anti]

im gonna go with, pwnt.

Opinions are cool too.

[plusminus]

I love how everyone makes fun of Sum 41. (Major rhym there, lol.)

I just think that the Misfits suck.

I really don't care one way or the other about Sum 41. If you like them that's fine. But they're basically a commercial radio-friendly distillation of music from a punk scene in which the Misfits were hugely influential, and if you can't at least appreciate that influence then it makes you seem a more than a bit ignorant.

[The Anti]

I really don't care one way or the other about Sum 41. If you like them that's fine. But they're basically a commercial radio-friendly distillation of music from a punk scene in which the Misfits were hugely influential, and if you can't at least appreciate that influence then it makes you seem a more than a bit ignorant.

To be honest, I don't know much about the influence the Misfits had. I am just saying, "I don't like they're music."

But I won't disrespect other people if they like them or not.

Not trying to be ignorant, or anything like that.

[choplocker-17]

im in ur forumz


postin mah musiks.

I listened to all, and you aren't going anywhere.

Why wouldn't they go anywhere. Tell me. There new, they have talent which is hard to find now a days with most bands. I mean every band sounds the same. They have a nickelback type singer with a 3 days grace type guitar. It's all chords and simple music. It gets old. Theres nothing new out there and this. The music with the most skill out there right now to me is rap and I don't even like rap.

You're the drummer, right?

Nah. My brother is the guitarist though. I do play drums though.

[Gr!mmjow]

Its not bad

It is different, which is nice for a change :)

They do need some work.


Fine wine was good I liked the guitar solos alot,( I play guitar myself)

[choplocker-17]

Thanks. What changes would you recommend?

[Gr!mmjow]

Im not one to talk really but it kinda seems like there are a bunch of different rock genres of music being mixed into each song.



It doesnt need much change its nice, it just needs some polish is all

I still like it more then a lot of todays "hip" rock :p

[shurtugal]

says the dude with the sum 41 avatar? :confused: *head explodes*

zing

[HoO?]

For anyone who listens to this. This is actual good rock. Not whinny crap rock like Panic at the disco or Fall out boy. If you like good music listen.

Edit: You come here to try to promote your brother's band?

[Gr!mmjow]

You're in the band trying to promote yourself.

Read the thread he answers this questions multiple times indirectly, read his last post in the thread for starters.:)

[HoO?]

Read the thread he answers this questions multiple times indirectly, read his last post in the thread for starters.:)

Still same concept, ''promotion''
promoting a related family members band on a gaming forum is funny.

[Gr!mmjow]

never said it wasnt

I was just answering your question for you:p

[HoO?]

Yeah, thanks for the pointer. I just made a quick assumption, should of read. :p

[R G]

First of all Rap is for losers. It is the furtherest thing from being good music....

They could be good, but need to work on some good material. It's like they are just putting some music to some words. It's hard to explain, but good music will build up with energy and then just hit you.

[Gr!mmjow]

First of all Rap is for losers. It is the furtherest thing from being good music....

They could be good, but need to work on some good material. It's like they are just putting some music to some words. It's hard to explain, but good music will build up with energy and then just hit you.

Thats kinda what I was thinking, I just had no idea how to say it.

[choplocker-17]

Still same concept, ''promotion''
promoting a related family members band on a gaming forum is funny.

Better promoting it somewhere than nowhere. I know if i put it on here it would get views. Yesterday they got around 200 plays. I don't care where i'm promoting as long as I am promoting. I love my brother enough and my family enough to promote him.

[HoO?]

I suggest a music forum bro.

[Elentari]

Why wouldn't they go anywhere. Tell me. There new, they have talent which is hard to find now a days with most bands. I mean every band sounds the same. They have a nickelback type singer with a 3 days grace type guitar. It's all chords and simple music. It gets old. Theres nothing new out there and this. The music with the most skill out there right now to me is rap and I don't even like rap.

They're not bad, but I'm not sure what in that post was supposed to make the band sound good. You basically said that they sound the same as every other band out there, but because they're new and have talent (and let me break it to you hun, it's not as uncommon as you think) they're going to get somewhere despite unoriginality?

Anywho, if you seriously think that rap is the music genre with the most skill nowadays you SERIOUSLY need to listen to more kinds of music.

Also, the vocalist sounds exactly like some other singer, but I can't put my finger on who it is ><. I was gonna say Metallica but that's not quite right.

[choplocker-17]

I think personally he sounds like Vince Neil the lead singer for Motley Crue. But I actually think they don't sound like anything out there. You have the typical punk bands like simple plan which they sound nothing like. You have the typical rock bands which all sound like 3 days grace. Hit chords and sing like crap. You have the typical Metal bands which aren't bad at all. Disturbed and those bands do have skill. Than you have the typical screamo bands which some have good guitarist but than the singing turns you off. Than you got the pop singers like miley cyrus who turns out to be little sluts. Than you got the piano music like the frey which isn't bad. Than you got rap which i hate but takes not much skill. There nothing like any of those. There a classic rock sounding band.

[Unforgottner]

Not trying to be ignorant, or anything like that.

People try to be ignorant?

[savanna]

I think personally he sounds like Vince Neil the lead singer for Motley Crue. But I actually think they don't sound like anything out there. You have the typical punk bands like simple plan which they sound nothing like. You have the typical rock bands which all sound like 3 days grace. Hit chords and sing like crap. You have the typical Metal bands which aren't bad at all. Disturbed and those bands do have skill. Than you have the typical screamo bands which some have good guitarist but than the singing turns you off. Than you got the pop singers like miley cyrus who turns out to be little sluts. Than you got the piano music like the frey which isn't bad. Than you got rap which i hate but takes not much skill. There nothing like any of those. There a classic rock sounding band.

okay.
you DONT know punk.

[Kyir]

I think personally he sounds like Vince Neil the lead singer for Motley Crue. But I actually think they don't sound like anything out there. You have the typical punk bands like simple plan which they sound nothing like. You have the typical rock bands which all sound like 3 days grace. Hit chords and sing like crap. You have the typical Metal bands which aren't bad at all. Disturbed and those bands do have skill. Than you have the typical screamo bands which some have good guitarist but than the singing turns you off. Than you got the pop singers like miley cyrus who turns out to be little sluts. Than you got the piano music like the frey which isn't bad. Than you got rap which i hate but takes not much skill. There nothing like any of those. There a classic rock sounding band.

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/7088/cursespz0.jpg

YOU'VE ONCE AGAIN FOILED MY PLAN TO RULE THESE FORMS WITH YOUR SUPERIOR LOGIC AND TYPING ABILITIES. THERE IS NO WAY TO BYPASS THAT WALL OF WORDS!

[Memory of Light]

They're not bad, but I'm not sure what in that post was supposed to make the band sound good. You basically said that they sound the same as every other band out there, but because they're new and have talent (and let me break it to you hun, it's not as uncommon as you think) they're going to get somewhere despite unoriginality?

Anywho, if you seriously think that rap is the music genre with the most skill nowadays you SERIOUSLY need to listen to more kinds of music.

Also, the vocalist sounds exactly like some other singer, but I can't put my finger on who it is ><. I was gonna say Metallica but that's not quite right.

ele, i think he was refering to most bands out there with the comments on 3DG and w/e. saying the band he was talking about wasnt like that.

[HoO?]

Thanks. What changes would you recommend?

Huge changes, it doesn't sound clear. You need to download a traktor/fl studio/virtual dj program to make the music balanced. Higher tre, bass med.

Also, promoting on a gaming forum just gets your brother enemy's. I suggest a music forum where C&C is always applied, not here, your most likely to be flamed.


Also this is not the best way to increase your brother's plays.


I make 200 daily without advertisement. It takes time and patience, his fan base will come sooner or later.

[Blexican]

Did you really think this was a good idea in the first place? They would probably call it bad even if you were the next big thing. You will never get tao approval.

[Kyir]

Did you really think this was a good idea in the first place? They would probably call it bad even if you were the next big thing. You will never get tao approval.

Who ever does?

[Blexican]

Who ever does?

exactly.

[Kyir]

exactly.

Well, I got pretty good reception on that Slowpoke thread, but it's just a 4chan meme I pushed a little farther.

[plusminus]

People try to be ignorant?

To be fair, not properly appreciating a 20 year old musical influence is pretty minor in the grand scheme of things. I'm an old cranky music nerd but I have some perspective.

Back on topic: if you're going to do any unsolicited promotion of any music or art in general, you need a pretty thick skin, because most of the people just won't "get it" or even care, regardless of how good you (or your brother in this case) are, and of those that do get it many will have some pretty nasty things to say anyhow.

[choplocker-17]

Yeah what I found out from this is.
1. The people who actually knew and appreciates music actually took time to listen and where honest about liking it or not liking it.
2. People are dumb so they neg rep me because they think there cool lol. Its red bars like i'm going to care. They actually look cooler than all of the green bars.
3. People think there cool so there going to try and act tough on a video game forum site even though there all ugly hobo's with 3 inch dicks.

[Tama Drummer]

Meh. Pretty much everyone who plays in a band will say they're original, unique, and "better" than other bands.
To be honest, I stopped listening to one song after about 30 seconds, because it didn't seem interesting, unique, or exceptionally good to me.

Also, don't try to compare non-mainstream bands (your brother's band) with mainstream bands like all the ones you mentioned. Those bands get "big" because they're "safe" bands (most of them, anyway), as decided by record labels. Non-mainstream bands get "big" by being good. For example, Isis is huge in the post-hardcore/sludge genre. Pretty much anyone who listens to that genre has at least heard the name before. Or a better example, the band Death was probably the most well known and highly respected metal bands. And yet, more people have probably heard of Disturbed than people who've heard of Death.

[choplocker-17]

Thats because I have most of that mainstream and that other crap out there and non of it.. NON of it is any good. And someone told Simple Plan isn't punk. That is some straight up whinny crap punk rock. Theres nothing good out there. I can't listen to a modern rock station without turning it off. The last good band were Creed, The Darkness and now Alter Bridge but thats it. Everything else has no originality. So why don't you fags go and listen to your fall out boy and whine about your life.

[Kyir]

Non of it is gud.

My opinuns r stil valud!

[mino]

I liked it intill the dude started singing...

EDIT:
Thats because I have most of that mainstream and that other crap out there and non of it.. NON of it is any good. And someone told Simple Plan isn't punk. That is some straight up whinny crap punk rock. Theres nothing good out there. I can't listen to a modern rock station without turning it off. The last good band were Creed, The Darkness and now Alter Bridge but thats it. Everything else has no originality. So why don't you fags go and listen to your fall out boy and whine about your life.

Please tell me that's a joke.

[choplocker-17]

Nope its not. None of it is. Everything now a days sucks. Thats why i'm getting bored of music. Nothing new and nothing good. The last good era of music was the early 90's grunge.

[choplocker-17]

And for all of you said this band sucks. I thank you. The two best things to hear when your trying to make it big is. You guys sound great or you guys suck because both took the time to care about the music. Those who thought nothing didn't care and couldn't say anything.

[mino]

Nope its not. None of it is. Everything now a days sucks. Thats why i'm getting bored of music. Nothing new and nothing good. The last good era of music was the early 90's grunge.

One of the best new bands around are Bullet for my Valentine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYGQjYi2A30) and Losing Sun. Though, that's just my opinion.

[Coffin Fedder]

I know those bands suck that you listed but, they seem to be bigger then your band? I listen to every kind of rock and I get bored of none of it. I listen to Steve Vai all the way to Whitechapel.

[choplocker-17]

One of the best new bands around are Bullet for my Valentine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYGQjYi2A30) and Losing Sun. Though, that's just my opinion.

I kind stand that screamo stuff. Its like you put talented musicians together and they can't write music but only scream. They actually just had a huge gig yesterday and opened for Grand Funk Railroad and a lot of people loved them.

[Cavour]

I'm in a band, if you guys wanna shit on me too.

http://www.myspace.com/theworkoutalwaysgetsyou

Our EP is on iTunes and Amazon blahblahblah if anyone actually enjoys it. I was gonna make a thread to let people know about it when the EP dropped in April, but I haven't felt pompous enough, so this will do.

[Tama Drummer]

Nope its not. None of it is. Everything now a days sucks. Thats why i'm getting bored of music. Nothing new and nothing good. The last good era of music was the early 90's grunge.

there's tons of good music out "today." but if all you do is listen to the radio or watch mtv, obviously you're not going to find it.

edit: Cavour, you're the vocalist right? I tried to listen to some songs, but my internet has been really bad lately for some reason, so I couldn't play more than 5-10 seconds of each song before it stopped working.

I need to get back in a band again. :(

[Cavour]

edit: Cavour, you're the vocalist right? I tried to listen to some songs, but my internet has been really bad lately for some reason, so I couldn't play more than 5-10 seconds of each song before it stopped working.

I need to get back in a band again. :(

Yes'm. I sing, another guy screams. It's alright though. The best way to listen to our music is in 5-10 second doses. Harder to get sick of it that way.

Kidding. Let me know what you think if you ever get the internet working properly again.

[plusminus]

I'm in a band, if you guys wanna shit on me too.

http://www.myspace.com/theworkoutalwaysgetsyou
That's not exactly my style, too modern rock for me, but I liked the piano bits and the fact that the lead guitarist plays like he has some talent. Nice singing too. The yelling I could really do without but like I said, not my style.

I need to get back in a band again. :(

Send me recordings of you playing and I'll put some drone metal guitars on them. ;)
Or use them for drumloops in techno songs that you probably wouldn't like.

[Lex]

Yes'm. I sing, another guy screams. It's alright though. The best way to listen to our music is in 5-10 second doses. Harder to get sick of it that way.

Kidding. Let me know what you think if you ever get the internet working properly again.

Once the screaming guys shuts up it's not bad.

[Lonely Tylenol]

The tragic part about all the hype chop's putting into his brother's band... On an internet forum... Is that it meets none of it. "New big thing", "original act"... The first impression I had was that it sounded like Audioslave without the innovative guitar work of Morello (Nickelback?); the second impression I had was from a technical standpoint, it wasn't that much unlike R.E.M. It seemed like a fairly textbook formulaic alt-rock band. The time signature was always 4/4... Not exactly unexpected, 4/4 is a common time signature in modern music... But the drum was always exactly the same--ride cymbal on every beat with a snare on the third beat of every measure (or second and fourth with rides on every eighth if you count it slow, but since the band opened with eighth note rhythm I wouldn't) and the eventual drum fill to break the monotony; but wait, there's more!

Similar-sounding guitar rhythms (two or three songs opened with an acoustic variation of a 3-3-2 rhythm; I think I heard two go into an electric variation of this pattern). The songs were written in a pretty standard chorus-verse format with verses often constituting a sustained chord progression, kept to single size, and the fade-out, the bastard child of studio engineering, is featured at the end of every single damned song! The songs all had a similar sound, which isn't exactly distinct in any way.

Don't get me wrong--the music itself doesn't sound bad from a musicianship standpoint; I'd even say it is passable, albeit lazy, but original it is not.

Diagnosis for your brother's band: If you want something original out of the alt-rock genre, listen to some Soundgarten or later Radiohead (off the surface) or dig deeper, out of the mainstream. If you want real originality, listen to some prog (I'd suggest King Crimson, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Jethro Tull, Rush and Dreamtheater), math metal (not much of a math metal guy, but Meshuggah or Sikth would be a few of my guitarist's top choices), or *good* jazz (general rule for me is if there's a vocalist who actually sings, I wouldn't listen to it for musicianship's sake, because many of the primary jazz elements will be downplayed for lyrical continuity); if you want real originality, try zeuhl. I'm not even going to name bands, find this one out for yourself.

P.S. You're being a pretentious douche.

Cavour: The first half of "Return of the Hun" was orgasmic. I've never used iTunes and have for years been in firm opposition of digital music downloading, opting instead to preserve the integrity of the CD (and what it stands for, which is, for me, to support all of a good band's work if I hear something I like, not just the song in question, to delve deeper than the single or whateverthehell they throw out the farthest), but I seriously clicked the link and considered buying some of it until after the air raid siren... And I got hit with a hot helping of screaming. Ugh.

Don't get me wrong, there are people out there who like screaming vocals, but I'm... NOT one of them. When I think of a good metal vocalist, the first ones to come to mind are Bruce Dickinson, Rob Halford and Ozzy Osbourne of Iron Maiden, Judas Priest and Black Sabbath/solo fame (respectively), and naturally they are the melodic polar opposites to the largely atonal screaming... But what I dislike even more about screaming is that it's always backed by the same formula, which usually means ramping up the tempo and generally wailing on your instruments a Hell of a lot more. The thing that pains me so much about this is the four songs I listened to on the page each had a great sound that was distinctly different from the other songs on the list, up until the screaming parts, at which point each and every song went in the exact same direction and stayed there.

I suppose this is the point where I reach the logical conclusion of my tirade. I can understand a band going for screaming vocals--it's a matter of artistic inclinations, really, and you'll find people who will go either way, melodic or screaming, or even middle of the road (see: thrash metal), but why do the instrumentals to every screaming part have to sound so similar? I mean, even I liked the two-part lead/screaming vocals before the air-raid siren... It introduced screaming in a way that deviated a little from the tried-and-tested formula of an up-tempo, dropped-down and largely repetitive instrumentals you see in most screaming bands.

Tl;dr: Where's my slow screaming song, dammit!?

P.S. I actually found the latter half of Return of the Hun good as well (though I much preferred the first half), and I thought the instrumentals in the latter half stayed fairly true to the tone set by the first half, as opposed to gravitating to the subject of my rant. I'd still pay for that. :)

[Cavour]

Don't get me wrong, there are people out there who like screaming vocals, but I'm... NOT one of them. When I think of a good metal vocalist, the first ones to come to mind are Bruce Dickinson, Rob Halford and Ozzy Osbourne of Iron Maiden, Judas Priest and Black Sabbath/solo fame (respectively), and naturally they are the melodic polar opposites to the largely atonal screaming... But what I dislike even more about screaming is that it's always backed by the same formula, which usually means ramping up the tempo and generally wailing on your instruments a Hell of a lot more. The thing that pains me so much about this is the four songs I listened to on the page each had a great sound that was distinctly different from the other songs on the list, up until the screaming parts, at which point each and every song went in the exact same direction and stayed there.

To each his own I guess. I was kind of the same way a year or two ago to be honest, but since messing around with the band, and listening to a lot more heavy modern music, I've learned to love screaming. I just really appreciate the raw emotion and intensity behind it now. Seeing it live helped a lot too. It shows a lot more at a show where people are going nuts and hurting themselves because of how pumped up the intensity gets them, than on a CD that you pop in on a car ride. Kind of a weird way to put it, but hopefully you understand. Note that I can only handle screaming within reason. More often than not I need my melodic hunger assuaged by a catchy chorus, or some kind of understandable hook.

I understand your point of view on the musicianship, where the formula seems the same, but I actualy prefer when the tempo drops when the screaming kicks in, and really airs out the feel, not when the tempo speeds up. I prefer the heavy breakdown to the screaming verse in most cases. Like in "Eager Eye," the verses are primarily screamed, but the part that really gets me going is after the 1st chorus/piano part. The intensity of that kind of part, due largely to the screaming, is what makes me appreciate the style. It wouldn't be the same with a Rob Halford singing it in my opinion. More on the one-dimensional apect below.

I suppose this is the point where I reach the logical conclusion of my tirade. I can understand a band going for screaming vocals--it's a matter of artistic inclinations, really, and you'll find people who will go either way, melodic or screaming, or even middle of the road (see: thrash metal), but why do the instrumentals to every screaming part have to sound so similar? I mean, even I liked the two-part lead/screaming vocals before the air-raid siren... It introduced screaming in a way that deviated a little from the tried-and-tested formula of an up-tempo, dropped-down and largely repetitive instrumentals you see in most screaming bands.

I do understand, and partly agree on the music accompanying typical screaming, but not completely. In my opinion, why the instrumental style that goes with screaming doesn't sway much from what it is, is because screaming is sought after for intensity, and the instruments going more intense just fits with the vocals going more intense. At the same time, I do share your gripe with this as an artist, and we have been, and are continuing to experiment with new ideas concerning this. Part 1 of "Eager Eye," which isn't on the EP, is a much slower song, with the piano piece from Part 2 serving as the constant, and the vocals being mostly sung, but often going in the same style as the first half of "Hun" that you mentioned. Even farther from the generic screaming formula, I'm actually writing a song right now, that is fairly heavy, albeit predictable, until in the middle there's a doo-wap breakdown where the first 1/2 is sung in a traditional doo-wap manner, and the second half starts off in a thrash-like yell, and ends in a typical metal scream. That might sound completely ridiculous, but it sounds bomb in my head. I guess we'll see.

Tl;dr: Where's my slow screaming song, dammit!?
I r'd your tl, and raise you a tl. Sorry about that. But thanks very much for the time and energy. The criticism is greatly appreciated, and now my mind's churning some shit around because of it. Hopefully I can think up a plausible solution for your "slow screaming song." It's just hard finding a listenable balance. :)

[choplocker-17]

The tragic part about all the hype chop's putting into his brother's band... On an internet forum... Is that it meets none of it. "New big thing", "original act"... The first impression I had was that it sounded like Audioslave without the innovative guitar work of Morello (Nickelback?); the second impression I had was from a technical standpoint, it wasn't that much unlike R.E.M. It seemed like a fairly textbook formulaic alt-rock band. The time signature was always 4/4... Not exactly unexpected, 4/4 is a common time signature in modern music... But the drum was always exactly the same--ride cymbal on every beat with a snare on the third beat of every measure (or second and fourth with rides on every eighth if you count it slow, but since the band opened with eighth note rhythm I wouldn't) and the eventual drum fill to break the monotony; but wait, there's more!

Similar-sounding guitar rhythms (two or three songs opened with an acoustic variation of a 3-3-2 rhythm; I think I heard two go into an electric variation of this pattern). The songs were written in a pretty standard chorus-verse format with verses often constituting a sustained chord progression, kept to single size, and the fade-out, the bastard child of studio engineering, is featured at the end of every single damned song! The songs all had a similar sound, which isn't exactly distinct in any way.

Don't get me wrong--the music itself doesn't sound bad from a musicianship standpoint; I'd even say it is passable, albeit lazy, but original it is not.

Diagnosis for your brother's band: If you want something original out of the alt-rock genre, listen to some Soundgarten or later Radiohead (off the surface) or dig deeper, out of the mainstream. If you want real originality, listen to some prog (I'd suggest King Crimson, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Jethro Tull, Rush and Dreamtheater), math metal (not much of a math metal guy, but Meshuggah or Sikth would be a few of my guitarist's top choices), or *good* jazz (general rule for me is if there's a vocalist who actually sings, I wouldn't listen to it for musicianship's sake, because many of the primary jazz elements will be downplayed for lyrical continuity); if you want real originality, try zeuhl. I'm not even going to name bands, find this one out for yourself.

P.S. You're being a pretentious douche.



lol honestly tell me how im being a douche. tell me. Tell me how there not different. Tell me a bad that sounds like them thats out there right now. Honestly tell me a band that sounds like them. You got your typical modern rock bands out there hit the 3 chords over and over with no solo ever in a song. Then you got your metal bands like Disturbed and stuff which is alright but gets old pretty quick. Then you got your Punk Rock/Emo bands like Panic at the disco and Simple Plan that do nothing except whine about there parents. The only real good band that I like that is out there is Alter Bridge. I liked the Darkness but they broke up. And shinedown used to be good but there getting into that modern crap too much. And the only song that ever opened with an acoustic was today is the day. And no they sound nothing like Nickelback. My brother and every member in that band completely hates that band. And they wouldn't mind sounding like Audioslave because they did write good music. And of course they're not going to Morello considering the fact he played his guitar with a pedal more than he did with his hands. I do like Rage against the machine and stuff but his solo's sounded like an outerspace alien guitar solo. And tell me 5-10 guitarist out there right now that can write song with out screaming, that sounds good with a GOOD guitar solo in it. Not one of those crap solos that consits of 5 high notes being held way too long.

[Tama Drummer]

Tell me a bad that sounds like them thats out there right now.

Well, I think if I walk into any local bar with a small rock band playing, they'd sound just like your brother's band.

But really, there's no point in arguing. You're determined to to be your brother's band's number one fanboy no matter what. So go ahead and talk about how great and original they are. You're the only one listening.

[Lonely Tylenol]

To each his own I guess. I was kind of the same way a year or two ago to be honest, but since messing around with the band, and listening to a lot more heavy modern music, I've learned to love screaming. I just really appreciate the raw emotion and intensity behind it now. Seeing it live helped a lot too. It shows a lot more at a show where people are going nuts and hurting themselves because of how pumped up the intensity gets them, than on a CD that you pop in on a car ride. Kind of a weird way to put it, but hopefully you understand. Note that I can only handle screaming within reason. More often than not I need my melodic hunger assuaged by a catchy chorus, or some kind of understandable hook.

Actually, for the first time ever, I really do understand this aspect. I went to see a few hardcore shows in Vancouver and Victoria, in spite of the fact that I had never really liked music like this (rather, because of; I was out to try something completely new and different from what I could see in Hawaiian venues), and by the second band I was up at the front row (braving the mosh behind me), banging my head and really freaking enjoying the music. I loved one of the bands so much that I actually bought their CD, and it SUCKED. I felt like going to their website (which probably would have meant actually getting a MySpace) and saying, "Hey, you rocked live, but your CD sucked! You should just sell your live performances on CD!" but it probably would have had a similar end result of "toning it down" destroying even the raw energy of a live concert.

I understand your point of view on the musicianship, where the formula seems the same, but I actualy prefer when the tempo drops when the screaming kicks in, and really airs out the feel, not when the tempo speeds up. I prefer the heavy breakdown to the screaming verse in most cases. Like in "Eager Eye," the verses are primarily screamed, but the part that really gets me going is after the 1st chorus/piano part. The intensity of that kind of part, due largely to the screaming, is what makes me appreciate the style. It wouldn't be the same with a Rob Halford singing it in my opinion. More on the one-dimensional apect below.

I liked the second half of Eagle Eye after it gets to the piano part, too, but not necessarily because of the direction it goes with the screaming (though honestly this is what I was going with when I wrote the last of my rant), but because it was actually very original. It broke away from the formulaic screaming/heavy, up-tempo combination that you see in every other screaming song, which was really my point.

I do understand, and partly agree on the music accompanying typical screaming, but not completely. In my opinion, why the instrumental style that goes with screaming doesn't sway much from what it is, is because screaming is sought after for intensity, and the instruments going more intense just fits with the vocals going more intense.

I understand this, but you can have intensity without speed. This is why you can have songs with a slow moshing/headbanging part, et cetera. More importantly, you can have intensity in screaming without speed. I can't think of any good examples (as Sess pointed out to me in an MSN convo, Children of Bodom's cover of "One" might have been forgivable if the singer didn't sound like THE DAMNED COOKIE MONSTER. COOKIE COOKIE COOKIE!), but a song like Black Sabbath's... Well, any Black Sabbath song (though the one of the same name is a prime example) can be simply teeming with energy, built up over a period of time until all that pent-up energy releases all at once with the face-melting guitar solo. You can tap into that kind of energy with growling vocals. This pretentious critic suggests a build-up/release effect with the vocals.

At the same time, I do share your gripe with this as an artist, and we have been, and are continuing to experiment with new ideas concerning this. Part 1 of "Eager Eye," which isn't on the EP, is a much slower song, with the piano piece from Part 2 serving as the constant, and the vocals being mostly sung, but often going in the same style as the first half of "Hun" that you mentioned. Even farther from the generic screaming formula, I'm actually writing a song right now, that is fairly heavy, albeit predictable, until in the middle there's a doo-wap breakdown where the first 1/2 is sung in a traditional doo-wap manner, and the second half starts off in a thrash-like yell, and ends in a typical metal scream. That might sound completely ridiculous, but it sounds bomb in my head. I guess we'll see.

Looking forward to hearing it.

I r'd your tl, and raise you a tl. Sorry about that. But thanks very much for the time and energy. The criticism is greatly appreciated, and now my mind's churning some shit around because of it. Hopefully I can think up a plausible solution for your "slow screaming song." It's just hard finding a listenable balance. :)

Hopefully I've given one. :wink2:

lol honestly tell me how im being a douche. tell me.

Your wish is my command, chops.

Yeah what I found out from this is.
1. The people who actually knew and appreciates music actually took time to listen and where honest about liking it or not liking it.
2. People are dumb so they neg rep me because they think there cool lol. Its red bars like i'm going to care. They actually look cooler than all of the green bars.
3. People think there cool so there going to try and act tough on a video game forum site even though there all ugly hobo's with 3 inch dicks.

Where's your father anyway? I don't think he'd condone this type of language. He still around?

Tell me a bad that sounds like them thats out there right now. Honestly tell me a band that sounds like them.

Every other band in the last 30 years which has tried to imitate Motley Crue's sound (forgive the lack of umlauts, I'm using a bloody Mac). Staying within the alt-rock genre, Nickelback, Audioslave without the innovative guitar, Jane's Addiction, Nazareth, White Stripes, and Alice in Chains come quickly to mind. I'll give your guys the benefit of the doubt and say they sound like Aerosmith on their high moments (what can I say? I like Aerosmith, in spite of the fact that they screwed me out of a concert last year).

And no they sound nothing like Nickelback. My brother and every member in that band completely hates that band

Saying that they don't doesn't change the fact that they... Well... They kinda do. But hey, if I'm not to be believed I ask any independent third party to come here and show me up. Ask around.

And of course they're not going to Morello considering the fact he played his guitar with a pedal more than he did with his hands. I do like Rage against the machine and stuff but his solo's sounded like an outerspace alien guitar solo.

Which is largely the point. There's nothing wrong with using a killswitch, a wah pedal, or any of these other effects as long as you don't use them to produce the same mundane crap over and over again, which Morello didn't, and he gets huge respect from me for that. That your guys sound like Audioslave without Morello's funk and innovative guitar methodology wasn't exactly a compliment.

And tell me 5-10 guitarist out there right now that can write song with out screaming, that sounds good with a GOOD guitar solo in it. Not one of those crap solos that consits of 5 high notes being held way too long.

Every progressive band known to man. Rush has been composing original and genuinely good content for the better part of FORTY YEARS (minus Peart's hiatus and some of their more synth-driven ballads, but that was the eighties, nobody knew what they were doing back then). But then, that IS a different genre, one you've obviously ignored all your life.

Again, I will repeat: You can have a band with a "classic rock" sound, and you can have a band that's new and original. You can't have both. Your brother's band falls soundly under the former, because, true to the name "classic rock", your brother's band is using a sound that has been made popular by musicians all over the world for the last few DECADES. If you don't like my analysis, baw elsewhere, but I think I'm in the right. Note again, I say they're not bad, but they're also not original, so you screwed up on that promise.

[plusminus]

Again, I will repeat: You can have a band with a "classic rock" sound, and you can have a band that's new and original. You can't have both. Your brother's band falls soundly under the former, because, true to the name "classic rock", your brother's band is using a sound that has been made popular by musicians all over the world for the last few DECADES. If you don't like my analysis, baw elsewhere, but I think I'm in the right. Note again, I say they're not bad, but they're also not original, so you screwed up on that promise.

When you're young, all that's old is new.

[choplocker-17]

Actually, for the first time ever, I really do understand this aspect. I went to see a few hardcore shows in Vancouver and Victoria, in spite of the fact that I had never really liked music like this (rather, because of; I was out to try something completely new and different from what I could see in Hawaiian venues), and by the second band I was up at the front row (braving the mosh behind me), banging my head and really freaking enjoying the music. I loved one of the bands so much that I actually bought their CD, and it SUCKED. I felt like going to their website (which probably would have meant actually getting a MySpace) and saying, "Hey, you rocked live, but your CD sucked! You should just sell your live performances on CD!" but it probably would have had a similar end result of "toning it down" destroying even the raw energy of a live concert.



I liked the second half of Eagle Eye after it gets to the piano part, too, but not necessarily because of the direction it goes with the screaming (though honestly this is what I was going with when I wrote the last of my rant), but because it was actually very original. It broke away from the formulaic screaming/heavy, up-tempo combination that you see in every other screaming song, which was really my point.



I understand this, but you can have intensity without speed. This is why you can have songs with a slow moshing/headbanging part, et cetera. More importantly, you can have intensity in screaming without speed. I can't think of any good examples (as Sess pointed out to me in an MSN convo, Children of Bodom's cover of "One" might have been forgivable if the singer didn't sound like THE DAMNED COOKIE MONSTER. COOKIE COOKIE COOKIE!), but a song like Black Sabbath's... Well, any Black Sabbath song (though the one of the same name is a prime example) can be simply teeming with energy, built up over a period of time until all that pent-up energy releases all at once with the face-melting guitar solo. You can tap into that kind of energy with growling vocals. This pretentious critic suggests a build-up/release effect with the vocals.



Looking forward to hearing it.



Hopefully I've given one. :wink2:



Your wish is my command, chops.



Where's your father anyway? I don't think he'd condone this type of language. He still around?



Every other band in the last 30 years which has tried to imitate Motley Crue's sound (forgive the lack of umlauts, I'm using a bloody Mac). Staying within the alt-rock genre, Nickelback, Audioslave without the innovative guitar, Jane's Addiction, Nazareth, White Stripes, and Alice in Chains come quickly to mind. I'll give your guys the benefit of the doubt and say they sound like Aerosmith on their high moments (what can I say? I like Aerosmith, in spite of the fact that they screwed me out of a concert last year).



Saying that they don't doesn't change the fact that they... Well... They kinda do. But hey, if I'm not to be believed I ask any independent third party to come here and show me up. Ask around.



Which is largely the point. There's nothing wrong with using a killswitch, a wah pedal, or any of these other effects as long as you don't use them to produce the same mundane crap over and over again, which Morello didn't, and he gets huge respect from me for that. That your guys sound like Audioslave without Morello's funk and innovative guitar methodology wasn't exactly a compliment.



Every progressive band known to man. Rush has been composing original and genuinely good content for the better part of FORTY YEARS (minus Peart's hiatus and some of their more synth-driven ballads, but that was the eighties, nobody knew what they were doing back then). But then, that IS a different genre, one you've obviously ignored all your life.

Again, I will repeat: You can have a band with a "classic rock" sound, and you can have a band that's new and original. You can't have both. Your brother's band falls soundly under the former, because, true to the name "classic rock", your brother's band is using a sound that has been made popular by musicians all over the world for the last few DECADES. If you don't like my analysis, baw elsewhere, but I think I'm in the right. Note again, I say they're not bad, but they're also not original, so you screwed up on that promise.


Well original original.. No. Original over the past 10-15 years easily. The last band I honestly think to have a sound like this was pearl Jam. And my dad honestly quit playing this game because he said quote n quote, "It's filled with to many pricks and computer geeks to play." Thats why my dad quit. Everyone is just a prick on here and he didn't like that. And listen to the lyrics too. You will realize these weren't songs just slopped together. They were actually written and thought out. Unlike pain by Three Days Grace. Slop hitting 3 chords and screaming.

[Lonely Tylenol]

Well original original.. No. Original over the past 10-15 years easily.

NO.

Original Retro is NOT ORIGINAL. If you're going to use an old sound and concept, fine, but DON'T CALL IT ORIGINAL.

And my dad honestly quit playing this game because he said quote n quote, "It's filled with to many pricks and computer geeks to play." Thats why my dad quit. Everyone is just a prick on here and he didn't like that.

And to this day you continue to honor his reason for leaving... What a family-oriented individual.

As for the three chords, you can hit off three chords and still sound original (see: Grateful Dead, Black Sabbath). You can also have a relatively complex sound (like eighth-note melodies and what-have-you) and sound unoriginal, because even though it isn't three chords, it has been done before. No matter how many times you say "three chords", I'm still going to believe you missed the point until you finally get it. Execution is key. Greats like Black Sabbath, Grateful Dead, etc. used three-chord progressions in a way that rocked the foundation of music as we know it. Your brother's band uses a slightly more complicated formula, but in a relatively safe way that doesn't deviate from any of the accepted norms of hard/alt rock. Thus, it is not original.

Okay, that's a slight exaggeration. Since the content was technically written up by the band, it is original, just not in a particularly original way.

Sorry.

Next!

[choplocker-17]

NO.

Original Retro is NOT ORIGINAL. If you're going to use an old sound and concept, fine, but DON'T CALL IT ORIGINAL.



And to this day you continue to honor his reason for leaving... What a family-oriented individual.

As for the three chords, you can hit off three chords and still sound original (see: Grateful Dead, Black Sabbath). You can also have a relatively complex sound (like eighth-note melodies and what-have-you) and sound unoriginal, because even though it isn't three chords, it has been done before. No matter how many times you say "three chords", I'm still going to believe you missed the point until you finally get it. Execution is key. Greats like Black Sabbath, Grateful Dead, etc. used three-chord progressions in a way that rocked the foundation of music as we know it. Your brother's band uses a slightly more complicated formula, but in a relatively safe way that doesn't deviate from any of the accepted norms of hard/alt rock. Thus, it is not original.

Okay, that's a slight exaggeration. Since the content was technically written up by the band, it is original, just not in a particularly original way.

Sorry.

Next!

Black Sabbath using Three Chords haha yea. Tell me a song that used three chords besides Heaven and Hell and NIB

[Tama Drummer]

Sunn O))) plays closer to three notes per song.

You gonna try and tell me they aren't original? Yea, they're not the first band to do what they're doing, but still...

[mattroe]

Cavour is that music on lime wire I actually really like it alot

the screaming isnt needed but it fits 'sometimes'

so far ive liked all of the songs ive heard

good shit

some guitar solos would be nice, but the screaming actually gets kinda annoying most of the time

[choplocker-17]

Sunn O))) plays closer to three notes per song.

You gonna try and tell me they aren't original? Yea, they're not the first band to do what they're doing, but still...

Black Sabbath is a very original sounding band. Just by hearing the music to there songs I can tell you its Black Sabbath by never hearing the song before.

[Lonely Tylenol]

Black Sabbath using Three Chords haha yea. Tell me a song that used three chords besides Heaven and Hell and NIB

Paranoid, arguably their greatest hit among mainstream listeners, was a 2-chord progression (E and D) with a lick at the end of each progression that went G D E, so while it was only a two-chord progression, technically it actually used three chords. The same progression repeats for the entirety of the song, even through the solo as rhythm. While for the "Can you help me occupy my brain?" chorus they switched to open sustains instead of eighth note rhythm, the fact remains that it was still an E/D progression.

War Pigs used an E/D progression for the 6/4 intro and--surprise--a D/E progression for the chorus and verse. The only break in the progression (aside from the guitar licks) is the walkdown from G to D in the key of G. Another Sabbath song based almost entirely around two chords.

The song "Black Sabbath" uses a three-note progression for the first five minutes. That's right. They play G off the sixth string, then G an octave higher on the fourth string, and then Db off the fifth string (or C#, depending on how you read it--they are enharmonic anyway) That's the progression for the first two verses. The solo is played off a chord progression based entirely on G, so you can say that this song essentially jumps from G to Db for the whole song.

These are three of their greatest songs of all time, three of my favourite at least (but hey--I am partial to the Paranoid album). They used three chords (at most), and they were decidedly original and distinct in your sound, by your word.

[choplocker-17]

Paranoid, arguably their greatest hit among mainstream listeners, was a 2-chord progression (E and D) with a lick at the end of each progression that went G D E, so while it was only a two-chord progression, technically it actually used three chords. The same progression repeats for the entirety of the song, even through the solo as rhythm. While for the "Can you help me occupy my brain?" chorus they switched to open sustains instead of eighth note rhythm, the fact remains that it was still an E/D progression.

War Pigs used an E/D progression for the 6/4 intro and--surprise--a D/E progression for the chorus and verse. The only break in the progression (aside from the guitar licks) is the walkdown from G to D in the key of G. Another Sabbath song based almost entirely around two chords.

The song "Black Sabbath" uses a three-note progression for the first five minutes. That's right. They play G off the sixth string, then G an octave higher on the fourth string, and then Db off the fifth string (or C#, depending on how you read it--they are enharmonic anyway) That's the progression for the first two verses. The solo is played off a chord progression based entirely on G, so you can say that this song essentially jumps from G to Db for the whole song.

These are three of their greatest songs of all time, three of my favourite at least (but hey--I am partial to the Paranoid album). They used three chords (at most), and they were decidedly original and distinct in your sound, by your word.

They are original and distinct. Have you heard a guitar like that before? And the thing with Black Sabbath is, they pulled off GOOD guitar solos. War Pigs is possibly one of the greatest of all time. Iron Man is simply fantastic when it comes to solos too. What bugs me about the modern bands now is that they hit the same 3 nots for the 3 minute song. maybe will try to pull a 5 note guitar solo that involves no skill whats so ever.

[Tama Drummer]

Black Sabbath is a very original sounding band. Just by hearing the music to there songs I can tell you its Black Sabbath by never hearing the song before.

great post A+++ I'd read it again


but it didn't have anything to do with my post that you quoted.

[choplocker-17]

What? Ok I guess I didn't understand your post than. I got out of it is that those 3 great songs are distinct and play 3 chords.

[Tama Drummer]

...did you read my post?

But really, it doesn't matter. Carry on.

[choplocker-17]

Well, I think if I walk into any local bar with a small rock band playing, they'd sound just like your brother's band.

But really, there's no point in arguing. You're determined to to be your brother's band's number one fanboy no matter what. So go ahead and talk about how great and original they are. You're the only one listening.

I've heard local bands. My brother doesn't go and cover Carry on my Wayward son and completely butcher it like most bands. You got a band? I'd be interested in hearing it considering your such a god when it comes to music.

[choplocker-17]

Oh and for everyone who keeps negging me thanks. I know none of you have the balls to even say who are and its on a video game forum. Thanks for being wouses. And your dang right I'm going to argue about this. Its like someone telling me Obama is a good president. No the guy is a moron and your dang right i'm go to argue about that.

[Liquid Swordsman]

you instill fear in the hearts of your enemies.

[Tama Drummer]

I've heard local bands. My brother doesn't go and cover Carry on my Wayward son and completely butcher it like most bands. You got a band? I'd be interested in hearing it considering your such a god when it comes to music.

well i'm glad you see me as a god of music. not sure how on earth you got that impression, but you do what you gotta do. just don't expect me to grant any miracles or anything.

and just like the second part of the post you quoted said, there's no real point for me or anything to try and argue with you about this. you've proved that you won't back down and plan to be you're brother's band's #1 to the end. so go on, keep boasting about how good they are. but in the end, no matter how much you talk, it's what the music says what's actually important.

so to put it to an end (for me, anyway), your brother's band is not original, and you are musically closed-minded and need to listen to new genres/new music.


as for me, no I currently am not in a band. but here's one of the first songs my last band wrote. it was recorded with a laptop mic, but it's quite decent. we have a full live set that was professionally recorded, but I don't have a copy of that on this computer to upload. and this was recorded right after we finished the song (we recorded our songs so each person could listen/practice them on our own time) so it's not tight.
http://sefalik.muxtape.com/


and before you go telling me they're not original or some crap like that, take note--I never claimed we were original, better than all other bands, or anything like that, unlike you.

[Kyir]

Its like someone telling me Obama is a good president. No the guy is a moron and your dang right i'm go to argue about that.

Ron Paul is clearly the best choice.

You sir, are either a very, very clever troll, or possibly the stupidest person I have ever seen.

[choplocker-17]

well i'm glad you see me as a god of music. not sure how on earth you got that impression, but you do what you gotta do. just don't expect me to grant any miracles or anything.

and just like the second part of the post you quoted said, there's no real point for me or anything to try and argue with you about this. you've proved that you won't back down and plan to be you're brother's band's #1 to the end. so go on, keep boasting about how good they are. but in the end, no matter how much you talk, it's what the music says what's actually important.

so to put it to an end (for me, anyway), your brother's band is not original, and you are musically closed-minded and need to listen to new genres/new music.


as for me, no I currently am not in a band. but here's one of the first songs my last band wrote. it was recorded with a laptop mic, but it's quite decent. we have a full live set that was professionally recorded, but I don't have a copy of that on this computer to upload. and this was recorded right after we finished the song (we recorded our songs so each person could listen/practice them on our own time) so it's not tight.
http://sefalik.muxtape.com/


and before you go telling me they're not original or some crap like that, take note--I never claimed we were original, better than all other bands, or anything like that, unlike you.

My brothers band isn't good huh. Well how come he had some big bands come up and see how much they rocked and haven't heard a sound like that in a long time. Grand Funk Railroad said that to them.

[choplocker-17]

well i'm glad you see me as a god of music. not sure how on earth you got that impression, but you do what you gotta do. just don't expect me to grant any miracles or anything.

and just like the second part of the post you quoted said, there's no real point for me or anything to try and argue with you about this. you've proved that you won't back down and plan to be you're brother's band's #1 to the end. so go on, keep boasting about how good they are. but in the end, no matter how much you talk, it's what the music says what's actually important.

so to put it to an end (for me, anyway), your brother's band is not original, and you are musically closed-minded and need to listen to new genres/new music.


as for me, no I currently am not in a band. but here's one of the first songs my last band wrote. it was recorded with a laptop mic, but it's quite decent. we have a full live set that was professionally recorded, but I don't have a copy of that on this computer to upload. and this was recorded right after we finished the song (we recorded our songs so each person could listen/practice them on our own time) so it's not tight.
http://sefalik.muxtape.com/


and before you go telling me they're not original or some crap like that, take note--I never claimed we were original, better than all other bands, or anything like that, unlike you.


Wow and I can see why you don't like my brothers music. You play that screamo crap. That stuff is horrible.

[-=Gun=-]

well i'm not going to go ahead and say hat they sucked just because it wasn;t my taste in music. Because it's not what i listen to, but it wasnt bad. I agree with people saying ti sounds like a mix of different classic rock sounds.
i guess what people aren't getting here is that everyone has a different taste in music, so saying what someone else listens to sucks is just stupid.

[Tama Drummer]

Wow and I can see why you don't like my brothers music. You play that screamo crap. That stuff is horrible.

if you call anything with "screaming" vocals screamo, you obviously have no clue what you're talking about.

guess what... you have no clue what your talking about. I also love how one second you're defending your brother's band to death, and making sure noone says anything remotely negative about them. And then I post my band's music after you requested it, and you immediately dismiss it as horrible. But then again, that's exactly what I expected you'd do.


My brothers band isn't good huh. Well how come he had some big bands come up and see how much they rocked and haven't heard a sound like that in a long time. Grand Funk Railroad said that to them.

You're very good at completely ignoring the point of someone's post, and ranting on about something completely irrelevant.

[Liquid Swordsman]

wow, that band really sucks. sorry dude, don't quit your day job.

@choplocker

[mattroe]

Oh and for everyone who keeps negging me thanks. I know none of you have the balls to even say who are and its on a video game forum. Thanks for being wouses. And your dang right I'm going to argue about this. Its like someone telling me Obama is a good president. No the guy is a moron and your dang right i'm go to argue about that.

Barack Obama is not an idiot, is he a good president choice no.

The only problem with barack Obama as far as leadership skills will go is that the UN would walk over him.

Obama will be to much of a pushover.

im guessing your parents are conservative and you learned that from them. eh

im also conservative.

[Wizzy`]

No the guy is a moron and your dang right i'm go to argue about that.
Yeah!

You sir, are either a very, very clever troll, or possibly the stupidest person I have ever seen.
Lol.

My brothers band isn't good huh. Well how come he had some big bands come up and see how much they rocked and haven't heard a sound like that in a long time. Grand Funk Railroad said that to them.

Aw, you're dumb again.

[choplocker-17]

if you call anything with "screaming" vocals screamo, you obviously have no clue what you're talking about.

guess what... you have no clue what your talking about. I also love how one second you're defending your brother's band to death, and making sure noone says anything remotely negative about them. And then I post my band's music after you requested it, and you immediately dismiss it as horrible. But then again, that's exactly what I expected you'd do.




You're very good at completely ignoring the point of someone's post, and ranting on about something completely irrelevant.

Ok honestly man I have found out a few things. You obviously have a different taste in music than I do and I was being a dick about all of this. Sorry. Second I don't like that kind of music that your band did put up there. It honestly just isn't my taste. Sorry. Man people do like that kind though and many people will probably enjoy that music. It's ok that you don't like my brothers music. Hey not everybody liked the beatles either. Like Gene Simmons said. The best thing to be said about your band besides saying they like it is saying they hate because they took time and understood the music. Those who don't care honestly thought it wasn't worth listening too. Sorry about being a prick about all of this

[Wizzy`]

Ok honestly man I have found out a few things. You obviously have a different taste in music than I do and I was being a dick about all of this. Sorry. Second I don't like that kind of music that your band did put up there. It honestly just isn't my taste. Sorry. Man people do like that kind though and many people will probably enjoy that music. It's ok that you don't like my brothers music. Hey not everybody liked the beatles either. Like Gene Simmons said. The best thing to be said about your band besides saying they like it is saying they hate because they took time and understood the music. Those who don't care honestly thought it wasn't worth listening too. Sorry about being a prick about all of this

Soo uhh..
Have you ever thought about getting that checked out?

[choplocker-17]

Getting what checked out there wizzy lol

[plusminus]

http://sefalik.muxtape.com/

Doesn't play for me, anywhere else I can download it? I don't think I've ever actually heard your band before, just that recording of you going apecrap on the drums.

[choplocker-17]

I clicked on that thing and it started saying purchasing so I just closed out lol

[Cavour]

Cavour is that music on lime wire I actually really like it alot

the screaming isnt needed but it fits 'sometimes'

so far ive liked all of the songs ive heard

good shit

some guitar solos would be nice, but the screaming actually gets kinda annoying most of the time

Sorry man, not on Limewire or any other illegal dl sites to my knowledge. iTunes or Amazon are your only bets. I appreciate the props though. :) Thanks.