America is the best country on Earth

[Kyir]

Successful troll will be successful.

And it doesn't make the title any less true, who woulda thought?

[uniquinous]

who woulda thought?
-canada, that's who

[Faulty Logic]

amuuurka?

[Kyir]

-canada, that's who

We all know the only thing that lives in canada are bears.

And bears can't think, they're American robots designed to guard our northern border.

[Unforgottner]

Power drill the yippee bog
With the dude piston

[_Thunder_]

America is the best country to live in. Freedom is worth more than anything.

[Hoolwath]

You know... there is freedom all over the world... especially in Europe...

I do not think American people get more freedom than unknown tribes in Africa... Does that make Africa even better country to live in?

USA would be a cool country if you made the school system effective, made young people smart(generally, no individuals), stopped the natural disasters somehow(there are countries with no hurricanes and almost the same rights) and stopped being brainwashed by politicians and media about being the best country in the world(which is not true)... or if you realised that it is not trues... but I already covered that(under making young people smart). There are more negative sides of America... These are the ones that popped in my head right away.


America does have its good sides. Fast food and Hollywood mostly.

[Kyir]

You know... there is freedom all over the world... especially in Europe...

I do not think American people get more freedom than unknown tribes in Africa... Does that make Africa even better country to live in?

USA would be a cool country if you made the school system effective, made young people smart(generally, no individuals), stopped the natural disasters somehow(there are countries with no hurricanes and almost the same rights) and stopped being brainwashed by politicians and media about being the best country in the world(which is not true)... or if you realised that it is not trues... but I already covered that(under making young people smart). There are more negative sides of America... These are the ones that popped in my head right away.


America does have its good sides. Fast food and Hollywood mostly.

It actually is 100% true, we are > everyone else.

If someone tries to say France I'll cry.

[Nitanius Nolund]

It's all about Canada. I mean seriously. Who has something bad to say about Canada? Eh?

[Forest_Archer]

Power drill the yippee bog
With the dude piston

Excuse me? Was that just a head smash on the keyboard?

[Kyir]

Excuse me? Was that just a head smash on the keyboard?

Vulcanize the whoopee stick
In the ham wallet

Cattle prod the oyster ditch
With the lap rocket

Batter dip the cranny ax
In the gut locker

Retrofit the pudding hatch
Ooh la la
With the boink swatter

If i get you in the loop when I make a point to be straight with you then
In lieu of the innuendo in the end know my intent though
I Brazilian wax poetic so hypothetically
I don't wanna beat around the bush

Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo
Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo

Marinate the nether rod
In the squish mitten

Power drill the yippee bog
With the dude piston

Pressure wash the quiver bone
In the bitch wrinkle

Cannonball the fiddle cove
Ooh la la
With the pork steeple

If i get you in the loop when I make a point to be straight with you then
In lieu of the innuendo in the end know my intent though
I Brazilian wax poetic so hypothetically
I don't wanna beat around the bush

Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo
Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo

Put the you know what in the you know where
Put the you know what in the you know where
Put the you know what in the you know where
Put the you know what in the you know where pronto

[Nitanius Nolund]

Why Canada > USA (http://youtube.com/watch?v=9vxDDcTc64c)

[mino]

Vulcanize the whoopee stick
In the ham wallet

Cattle prod the oyster ditch
With the lap rocket

Batter dip the cranny ax
In the gut locker

Retrofit the pudding hatch
Ooh la la
With the boink swatter

If i get you in the loop when I make a point to be straight with you then
In lieu of the innuendo in the end know my intent though
I Brazilian wax poetic so hypothetically
I don't wanna beat around the bush

Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo
Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo

Marinate the nether rod
In the squish mitten

Power drill the yippee bog
With the dude piston

Pressure wash the quiver bone
In the bitch wrinkle

Cannonball the fiddle cove
Ooh la la
With the pork steeple

If i get you in the loop when I make a point to be straight with you then
In lieu of the innuendo in the end know my intent though
I Brazilian wax poetic so hypothetically
I don't wanna beat around the bush

Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo
Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo

Put the you know what in the you know where
Put the you know what in the you know where
Put the you know what in the you know where
Put the you know what in the you know where pronto


Bloodhound Gang - Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo

Awesome song.

[The Anti]

Vulcanize the whoopee stick
In the ham wallet

Cattle prod the oyster ditch
With the lap rocket

Batter dip the cranny ax
In the gut locker

Retrofit the pudding hatch
Ooh la la
With the boink swatter

If i get you in the loop when I make a point to be straight with you then
In lieu of the innuendo in the end know my intent though
I Brazilian wax poetic so hypothetically
I don't wanna beat around the bush

Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo
Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo

Marinate the nether rod
In the squish mitten

Power drill the yippee bog
With the dude piston

Pressure wash the quiver bone
In the bitch wrinkle

Cannonball the fiddle cove
Ooh la la
With the pork steeple

If i get you in the loop when I make a point to be straight with you then
In lieu of the innuendo in the end know my intent though
I Brazilian wax poetic so hypothetically
I don't wanna beat around the bush

Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo
Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo

Put the you know what in the you know where
Put the you know what in the you know where
Put the you know what in the you know where
Put the you know what in the you know where pronto

Bloodhound Gang - Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo

Awesome song.Second.

I haven't heard that for awhile, but it used to be one of my favorite songs. :)

[*Sanosuke*]

If you think you're better than America, I swear to god, I'll find a way to blow the hell out of your country. B) kthnxbai.

[Wisher]

America is the best.

[*Sanosuke*]

I'm waiting for spenny to post here so he can once again be the Stereo-typical internet brit with the "Americans are fat. Go eat McDonalds" Insults.

[Wisher]

Aren't there mcdonalds in some other countries?

[*Sanosuke*]

Exactly my point. B)

[mino]

Aren't there mcdonalds in some other countries?

Theres two in Cardiff now, and even one in a few small towns down south of Wales.

[Unforgottner]

stopped the natural disasters

How're you going to stop a tornado or a hurricane? :mellow:

[Nitanius Nolund]

How're you going to stop a tornado or a hurricane? :mellow:

With his turtle skills of course.

This is Hoolio. You don't ask, you just believe.

[A-99]

Basically, Canada > America because america is so loaded up on fast food that all your 'chicks' are now fat and repugnant.

Oh and Canada isn't hated by the entire world :)

[Unforgottner]

ll your 'chicks' are now fat and repugnant.



But that isn't the way it is.
So you're wrong.

[Hoolwath]

How're you going to stop a tornado or a hurricane? :mellow:

Exactly. You can't stop it. Countries with tornados < Countries without tornados.

[Kyir]

Oh and Canada isn't hated by the entire world :)

It puts us on edge, you guys are screwed when extremists end up targeting you.

[Nitanius Nolund]

You've never heard of "Quebec" have you?

[Dark7]

im american and im not even gonna lie canada>america. Their just better people... and we hate to admitt it.

[Angelic-Hotfox]

They have an article in the Newsweek I think from three months ago taking out a passage from Fareed Zaharia or however you spell his name's book. It was really interesting and said America is slowly losing its position as the dominant country in the world and in the next decade or so we will have suffered so much economically that we will not be the model country. Of course he points out that a change like this could be good, as long as we adopt to it and learn how to live inferior to some other countries. Also saying with less importance and power might mean a more equal spread of responsibility when it comes to foreign affairs and wars.

[Scorpionz]

Australia > America.

seriously. WE are the fattest country in the world now.

EAT THAT AMERICA.

[Angelic-Hotfox]

How is it in Australia? I've always wanted to go there and im hoping I do sometime for a vacation. Where do you suggest I visit if I do go?

[Scorpionz]

You can do the beach side of Australia or the outback side.

If you like shopping and beaches, head up to the Gold Coast. Otherwise, head up the the Northern Territory and go into Kakadu, our biggest national park. Oh, you can go see Uluru too. :P

Theres WAYY too many places to see, as with everywhere else.

[Angelic-Hotfox]

You can do the beach side of Australia or the outback side.

If you like shopping and beaches, head up to the Gold Coast. Otherwise, head up the the Northern Territory and go into Kakadu, our biggest national park. Oh, you can go see Uluru too. :P

Theres WAYY too many places to see, as with everywhere else.

Well where do you live? I'll visit there first :]
but i'd definently go to the gold coast haha

[Scorpionz]

Darwin, Northen Territory. :P

[A-99]

Go back in your kangaroo pouch and shut it :P

[Scorpionz]

If it means I get to remain in the best country on earth!

[Lieutenant]

No offense to Americans, but they've always thought they've had the best, and frankly they don't. They think they're the best, that's why the go talking around shit about latinos, europeans and asians, when they've got a load of shit in their country too.

No offense, but USA is just a country everyone likes to waste, but no one likes it.

[Scorpionz]

Communist.

[Kyir]

im american and im not even gonna lie canada>america. Their just better people... and we hate to admitt it.

I try not to admit lies.

You no longer deserve to be an American.

[Nitanius Nolund]

Darwin, Northen Territory. :P

My teacher went to Darwin for an exchange thing for my school.

Oh, and want to know why Canada is better than America Kyir?

Our beer. Yes, that is right. Our beer. Your beer just plain sucks.

[Kyir]

My teacher went to Darwin for an exchange thing for my school.

Oh, and want to know why Canada is better than America Kyir?

Our beer. Yes, that is right. Our beer. Your beer just plain sucks.

I don't drink.

But I will admit that we have one outstanding flaw.

The south.

[Kyir]

No offense to Americans, buthttp://www.mysanantonio.com/multimedia/KENSVideo/index.html?bclid=1127701735&bctid=1668486856 They think they're the best, that's why the go talking around shit about latinos, europeans and asians, when they've got a load of shit in their country too.

No offense, but USA is just a country everyone likes to waste, but no one likes it.

Next time you want to look smart, don't contradict yourself.

Epic doublepost.

[*Sanosuke*]

I don't drink.

But I will admit that we have one outstanding flaw.

The south.

You don't like them thar rednecks? Damn yank.

[The Anti]

No offense to Americans, but they've always thought they've had the best, and frankly they don't. They think they're the best, that's why the go talking around shit about latinos, europeans and asians, when they've got a load of shit in their country too.

No offense, but USA is just a country everyone likes to waste, but no one likes it.That's quite a generalization there, my friend. Not all Americans walk about claiming that we're the best country here, and talking "shit" about other nations and races.

And yes we do have flaws, like any other country.

[Kyir]

And yes we do have flaws, like any other country.

Only the south.

[The Anti]

Only the south.

Gang violence? =/

[Junier]

No offense to Americans, but they've always thought they've had the best, and frankly they don't. They think they're the best, that's why the go talking around shit about latinos, europeans and asians, when they've got a load of shit in their country too.

No offense, but USA is just a country everyone likes to waste, but no one likes it.
Lieu America isn't a country, we are all Americans, lets stop this ignorance.

[meat.eater]

Most highly educated individuals on earth have spent time studying in America at our Universities or research facilities. I would venture a guess of 90% of the world's modern technology is being created or researched in America. America has become such a social, political and global icon, that English is now being taught in primary school almost globally, so the rest of the world is more equipped to communicate with America's revolutionary business. Top all of that off with the fact that America has been the turning point to stop both of our World Wars.

Talk all the crap you want about America, that's fine, but your world would be a lot different and probably without nearly as much quality of life if the US didnt exist. Perhaps it's not the most efficient country (likely China) on earth, or perhaps it's not the most beautiful (I'd say Greece)... but it's certainly helped to shape and secure any country you would deem "best on earth" very substantially. I'd say that's pretty great.

Other countries like to trash America a ton until they find themselves in a place where they realize they need it... then suddenly it becomes a God-send, only to be trashed again 20 years later when they "rebuilt on their own." Whatever. Y'know, it is possible to love your own country AND love other countries. I happen to love a lot more than just America. People who refuse to acknowledge the progress the US has contributed to this earth are the people I like to call: haters.

[Lex]

Kyir, the only problem with the south is all the damned illegals.

[Kyir]

Gang violence? =/

Texas.

I kid.

[WaCk-HeAd]

America is the best country to live in. Freedom is worth more than anything.

Hahaha, hello sucky American educational system.

I would venture a guess of 90% of the world's modern technology is being created or researched in America.

Very wrong? You know this continent, Asia? They've been doing rather well concerning technology.

"that China will have more Ph.D. engineers and scientists [than the US] by 2010."
"R.E. Smalley, a nobel prize winning scientists, claims that by 2010, 90% of the engineers and scientists will be Asian and living in Asia."

Yao Li and others, 'The Higher Educational Transformation of China and its Global Implications' Working Paper (2008, Cambridge).

And that's just China.

Anyway, I'm not a USA hater, despite what Kyir's response will be.

One of the funniest things I'm discovering is that seemingly a big part of the educated world besides Europe and Northern-America dislikes the United States, yet it is still by far the number 1 country they would move to in order to improve their own conditions. It somehow, after all the hate, is still the country with the endless possibilities for many people.

During the summerschool I'm currently attending in South-Korea, I've met many Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese and Africans who all have a problem with the United States, their imperialism and what not, but still acknowledge that they and their countrymen would not mind moving to and living in the United States and most will.

Even South-Korea as a country seems to dislike the United States (why do you guys need a visa after a month instead of the normal 90 days, by the way?), yet does whatever it can to resemble it. It's amazing.

[Blexican]

Hahaha, hello sucky American educational system.

Anyway, I'm not a USA hater

...

but i dont think the usa would be the best to live in. Id probably go with Switzerland, or Ireland.

[WaCk-HeAd]

Critique is the same as hating? How's that for freedom?

Why Switzerland or Ireland?

[Blexican]

Ireland to my knowledge has very low unemployment and the average income is nice. Just reading and hearing about the environment , social and the nature, has been very positive.

I have not been there personally, but if i did some traveling, that is a definite stop

[Hoolwath]

I would definitely go with Switzerland. Best country in the world.

[R G]

Hahaha, hello sucky American educational system.



Very wrong? You know this continent, Asia? They've been doing rather well concerning technology.

"that China will have more Ph.D. engineers and scientists [than the US] by 2010."
"R.E. Smalley, a nobel prize winning scientists, claims that by 2010, 90% of the engineers and scientists will be Asian and living in Asia."

Yao Li and others, 'The Higher Educational Transformation of China and its Global Implications' Working Paper (2008, Cambridge).

And that's just China.

Anyway, I'm not a USA hater, despite what Kyir's response will be.

One of the funniest things I'm discovering is that seemingly a big part of the educated world besides Europe and Northern-America dislikes the United States, yet it is still by far the number 1 country they would move to in order to improve their own conditions. It somehow, after all the hate, is still the country with the endless possibilities for many people.

During the summerschool I'm currently attending in South-Korea, I've met many Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese and Africans who all have a problem with the United States, their imperialism and what not, but still acknowledge that they and their countrymen would not mind moving to and living in the United States and most will.

Even South-Korea as a country seems to dislike the United States (why do you guys need a visa after a month instead of the normal 90 days, by the way?), yet does whatever it can to resemble it. It's amazing.

Your comment about China was rather amusing....Doesn't the population of China outnumber the US population something like 5,6 or maybe even 7 to one....The thing that is sad is that they don't already have more engineers than the US.

I think that is what meaty was trying to say.....No one likes the guy at the top simply because he is on top.

[WaCk-HeAd]

Your comment about China was rather amusing....

*sigh*

Doesn't the population of China outnumber the US population something like 5,6 or maybe even 7 to one....The thing that is sad is that they don't already have more engineers than the US.

It wasn't a comment about whether or not China is better than the US, it was a response to Meat.eater's post about how all the technology comes from the United States.

It really wasn't that difficult.

[Kyir]

It wasn't a comment about whether or not China is better than the US, it was a response to Meat.eater's post about how all the technology comes from the United States.

It really wasn't that difficult.

RG can MAKE it difficult.

[Forest_Archer]

Do you guys think that the decline of the U.S. and the rise of China by 2010 is inevitable? Will we blame it on the next president? I think yes and yes. Most people think that the president is under control of everything that goes on in the country. Oh please.

[Kyir]

Successful troll will be successful.

I can predict the future.

[Worker]

I can predict the future.
You sir, are the master.

[Kyir]

You sir, are the master.

Why thank you.

[Faulty Logic]

America is the best country to live in. Freedom is worth more than anything.


Why argue when we can quote the undisputed?


The voice of racism preaching the gospel is devilish
A fake church called the prophet Muhammad a terrorist
Forgetting God is not a religion, but a spiritual bond
And Jesus is the most quoted prophet in the Qu'ran
They bombed innocent people, tryin' to murder Saddam
When you gave him those chemical weapons to go to war with Iran
This is the information that they hold back from Peter Jennings
Cause Condoleeza Rice is just a new age Sally Hemmings
I break it down with critical language and spiritual anguish
The Judas I hang with, the guilt of betraying Christ
You murdered and stole his religion, and painting him white
Translated in psychologically tainted philosophy
Conservative political right wing, ideology
Glued together sloppily, the blasphemy of a nation
Got my back to the wall, cause I'm facin' assassination
Guantanamo Bay, federal incarceration
How could this be, the land of the free, home of the brave?
Indigenous holocaust, and the home of the slaves
Corporate America, dancin' offbeat to the rhythm
You really think this country, never sponsored terrorism?
Human rights violations, we continue the saga
El Savador and the contras in Nicaragua
And on top of that, you still wanna take me to prison
Just cause I won't trade humanity for patriotism

[ponefish]

I'm more of an England, Ireland man myself

[Worker]

Why thank you.You're welcome, and to contribute.

http://www.tallrite.com/weblog/blogimages/refs2006/AmericanWorld.gif




Yes I broke the table, sue me.

[Take a Look]

Denmark is a lot better, and I don't know how you define freedom, But i am sure i have as much freedom as people in the states, if not more, Because i don't pay for school, Health Insurance, and so on.

So yeah.. Europe > Usa

[_Thunder_]

You're welcome, and to contribute.

http://www.tallrite.com/weblog/blogimages/refs2006/AmericanWorld.gif




Yes I broke the table, sue me.

I would like to point out that 99% of that picture is true. :cool:

[EatMine]

Well, Wack already took care of some of meat.eater's crappy facts, but I didn't want to leave this ridiculous one uncommented:
America has become such a social, political and global icon, that English is now being taught in primary school almost globally, so the rest of the world is more equipped to communicate with America's revolutionary business.lol, this sentence owns bullshit bingo ...

The real reason why English is spoken and taught internationally is of course European colonialism. You know ... martial conquest, genocide, extermination and brutal colonization. Not a single native language has survived the European attack in both North and South America.
Guess what, USA is actually a pretty good example, since people don't speak "USAish" there, but "English" ... you know, little country called "England" ... 3000 miles east of USA.
Idiot.

[Worker]

Well, Wack already took care of some of meat.eater's crappy facts, but I didn't want to leave this ridiculous one uncommented:
lol, this sentence owns bullshit bingo ...

The real reason why English is spoken and taught internationally is of course European colonialism. You know ... martial conquest, genocide, extermination and brutal colonization. Not a single native language has survived the European attack in both North and South America.
Guess what, USA is actually a pretty good example, since people don't speak "USAish" there, but "English" ... you know, little country called "England" ... 3000 miles east of USA.
Idiot.

Not to put words in meat's mouth, but I believe he is referencing first world countries teaching it in their primary schools. This being the case, validates what he said to some extent.

[_Thunder_]

Why argue when we can quote the undisputed?




I love the country I live in, of course it has its problems, but I would rather live here than anywhere else in the world.

[Faulty Logic]

I totally agree with you im just mentioning the fact that our "freedom" comes at a heavy cost, and that many dont understand the reality of our actions as a nation.

[EatMine]

Not to put words in meat's mouth, but I believe he is referencing first world countries teaching it in their primary schools. This being the case, validates what he said to some extent.Yeah right, and to the same extent it also validates, that Amercian students learn French in school, because "France is such a social, political and global icon and to communicate with France's revolutionary business." :rolleyes:

[_Thunder_]

I totally agree with you im just mentioning the fact that our "freedom" comes at a heavy cost, and that many dont understand the reality of our actions as a nation.

Some costs are worth paying.

[Worker]

Yeah right, and to the same extent it also validates, that Amercian students learn French in school, because "France is such a social, political and global icon and to communicate with France's revolutionary business." :rolleyes:

Arabic · English · French · Portuguese · Russian · Spanish

The six most spoken languages on the planet, so yes you are actually right smart ass.
. Not a single native language has survived the European attack in both North and South America.


I'm not sure if you are just going with the flow of this epic troll thread, or if you actually believe what you said in your response to meat.

[R G]

*sigh*



It wasn't a comment about whether or not China is better than the US, it was a response to Meat.eater's post about how all the technology comes from the United States.

It really wasn't that difficult.

*sign*

Didn't say you did make a comment on whether or not China is better than the US....All I said it that is was sad that they didn't already have more engineers than the US considering their population. Just making a statement....take a chill pill and call me in the morning. :rolleyes:

[Faulty Logic]

Some costs are worth paying.

Like aiding coupes in other countries and helping install puppet governments that oppress the people?

[R G]

Like aiding coupes in other countries and helping install puppet governments that oppress the people?


Well no one can't say you don't live up to your name there Faulty Logic.

What government you think was better off that was overthrown?

[EatMine]

Arabic · English · French · Portuguese · Russian · Spanish

The six most spoken languages on the planet, so yes you are actually right smart ass.No idea what you want to tell me with that statement, but since your list of the most spoken languages on the planet doesn't even contain the first two most spoken languages (one third of mankind, China and India), I guess you don't know it yourself either.
And yes, I actually believe in what I said.

[Faulty Logic]

Well no one can't say you don't live up to your name there Faulty Logic.

What government you think was better off that was overthrown?

Vietnam and Cambodia for starters?

We practically installed the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia.

[Worker]

No idea what you want to tell me with that statement, but since your list of the most spoken languages on the planet doesn't even contain the first two most spoken languages (one third of mankind, China and India), I guess you don't know it yourself either.
And yes, I actually believe in what I said.I admit my mistake

1 Mandarin (Chinese) Speakers in millions (1120)
2 English (510)
3 Hindi (490)
4 Spanish (425)
5 Arabic (255)
6 Russian (254)
7 Portuguese (218)
10 French (130)

[_Thunder_]

Like aiding coupes in other countries and helping install puppet governments that oppress the people?

No, like the the freedom to bear arms, the freedom of speech, the freedom of press. I don't go in depth of America's disputes with other countries I care about the freedoms I have and protect.

[-=Gun=-]

well first off...

America isn't a country :dry:

and hey, i love the US, but i do have to admit we kinda suck.

[Bottled]

America has become such a social, political and global icon, that English is now being taught in primary school almost globally.


Have you forgotten the reason why the language is called ENGLISH?
If it were not for England,America would not exist.Therefore,if the Americans spoke a different language,there would be a language called American,and they would teach that.But remember,ENGLAND OWNS YOU!:p

[Kyir]

well first off...

America isn't a country :dry:

and hey, i love the US, but i do have to admit we kinda suck.

It is when I say it is.

And your opinions don't come close to mattering anyway.

Get off my troll thread.

Have you forgotten the reason why the language is called ENGLISH?
If it were not for England,America would not exist.Therefore,if the Americans spoke a different language,there would be a language called American,and they would teach that.But remember,ENGLAND OWNS YOU!:p

It's funny because you just broke like, every rule of grammar and punctuation in English.

[Hoolwath]

Not to put words in meat's mouth, but I believe he is referencing first world countries teaching it in their primary schools. This being the case, validates what he said to some extent.

You get to choose between German and English in most European countries. About one third chooses German, two thirds English. People do not learn the foreign language because of America, but because of the knowledge of foreign language to help you in your career. All European countries are taught GB-English, not US-English, too. I see USA more of a fast food icon... and movie producing icon... than any other important icon they are claimed to be.

[Kyir]

I see USA more of a fast food icon... and movie producing icon... than any other important icon they are claimed to be.

Don't forget the nuke icon.

I loves me some nukes.

[Bottled]

To tell you the truth,Japan is more of a movie icon.And electronics icon.And gaming icon......dont even get me started how much of an icon Japan is.

[ponefish]

To tell you the truth,Japan is more of a movie icon.And electronics icon.And gaming icon......dont even get me started how much of an icon Japan is.

we wont

[Bottled]

I admit my mistake

1 Mandarin (Chinese) Speakers in millions (1120)
2 English (510)
3 Hindi (490)
4 Spanish (425)
5 Arabic (255)
6 Russian (254)
7 Portuguese (218)
10 French (130)

Omg.What about the non language speaking people?

[Kyir]

To tell you the truth,Japan is more of a movie icon.And electronics icon.And gaming icon......dont even get me started how much of an icon Japan is.

Japan is more of a WHAT IS WITH ALL THIS CRAZY SHIT?

Seriously, if we had finished them there would be a lot less weird stuff in general.

[|AFO|]

Not a single native language has survived the European attack in both North and South America.

Really? So there are no native americans left that have the ability to speak their native tongue? Huh.. I guess that 30 days episode on FX was all made up. Oh well.

Have you forgotten the reason why the language is called ENGLISH?
If it were not for England,America would not exist.Therefore,if the Americans spoke a different language,there would be a language called American,and they would teach that.But remember,ENGLAND OWNS YOU!:p

But remember.. Brits would be speaking German right now if it wasn't for the US.

Japan is more of a WHAT IS WITH ALL THIS CRAZY SHIT?

Seriously, if we had finished them there would be a lot less weird stuff in general.

Lol.

[Take a Look]

Japan is more of a WHAT IS WITH ALL THIS CRAZY SHIT?

Seriously, if we had finished them there would be a lot less weird stuff in general.

If Vietnam had finished you of, You wouldn't have made this freaking useless thread, moron.

Even though.. Japan.. does eat weird things.... and makes weird cartoons...

[Hoolwath]

Vietnam could not finish off USA... because they did not even start.

[Take a Look]

Wtf are you talking about?

whether America's withdrawal was a political defeat rather than military defeat, doesn't matter they lost!

Lucky for them they didn't stay to long.

[Kyir]

Wtf are you talking about?

More like wtf are you talking about.

They never started.

[Hoolwath]

Wtf are you talking about?

whether America's withdrawal was a political defeat rather than military defeat, doesn't matter they lost!

Lucky for them they didn't stay to long.

You realise how tiny Vietnam is?

US could have still won the war if it was really needed internationally.

And Vietnam could never finish off the US, because they were not fighting on US territory. You can't compare a formal loss to "be glad we did not finish you off".

[Take a Look]

US could never have won that war... they didn't have the money..

They spent 120 Billion Dollars (Around 740$ Billions in 2008 Dollars)

And, they could have finished them off :)

[Hoolwath]

You are silly.

[Lex]

America never lost a battle in Vietnam, how could thay have finished us off?

[Take a Look]

That's because the Americans withdrawal before the war even began, they saw they had no chance, everything else is a lie.

The war demonstrated that no power, not even a superpower, has unlimited strength.

They finished you off!

[Kyir]

That's because the Americans withdrawal before the war even began, they saw they had no chance, everything else is a lie.

The war demonstrated that no power, not even a superpower, has unlimited strength.

They finished you off!

Which is why none of us are left.

You clearly have an agenda that you will go to any lengths to push on other people.

[Bottled]

Since when did this thread become the "Vietnam is the worst country on Earth" thread??
And how did Vietnam even enter the argument?!?

[|AFO|]

That's because the Americans withdrawal before the war even began, they saw they had no chance, everything else is a lie.

The war demonstrated that no power, not even a superpower, has unlimited strength.

They finished you off!

You're delusional. The US could have won that war. It just did not make sense to do so.

[Nitanius Nolund]

I'd just like to point out something...

Canada kicked USA's ass (http://youtube.com/watch?v=tGKwgmyEAJs)

[R G]

Vietnam and Cambodia for starters?

We practically installed the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia.

For the record Khmer Rouge was responsible for millions of deaths in the Cambodia killing fields.

Khmer Rouge was not installed by the US government. It was fully supported by the Chinese. I am sure you could say that the people of that country began to support Khmer Rouge, but the US did not support them. It was an unfortunate series of events for sure. I suspect that if the peacenics of the 70's had not put so much pressure on congress to stop funding for the Vietnam war, that the US could have intervened and assisted.

It is really ironic that the same thing was repeated in Afganistan when we helped to toss out the Soviets in the 80's, only to let the country to become over ran by a bunch of fanatics by not helping out...now look where we are.

The exact same thing could happen in Iraq. You would think that eventually people would learn from previous events in history. Right or wrong on whether or not you were justified in the begining you have to leave things better than they were.


As far as Vietnam is concerned you have to keep in mind that France was there first. Of course the French are only good at making wine and frying potatoes and haven't been a viable military force since Napolean died....guess it's hard to fight when you are running the other way....anyway the North Vietnam leaders had agreed to stay in North Vietnam with the world and that is how we became involved. Were we wrong to be there? Who's to say? My only question was where was the rest of the world? Didn't they care that they were lied too?

[-=Gun=-]

That's because the Americans withdrawal before the war even began, they saw they had no chance, everything else is a lie.

The war demonstrated that no power, not even a superpower, has unlimited strength.

They finished you off!

Is everyone in denial about the fact that the US lost the war in Vietnam?

we lost against the natives guerilla warfare, practically the same scenario we are in right now in Iraq.

Vietnam even got to a point where soldiers refused to fight, against orders from their commanding officers.

[Jeffery]

Is everyone in denial about the fact that the US lost the war in Vietnam?

we lost against the natives guerilla warfare, practically the same scenario we are in right now in Iraq.

Vietnam even got to a point where soldiers refused to fight, against orders from their commanding officers.
we lost Vietnam for the same reason we are losing Iraq.

Inept command at the top levels not willing to do what is needed to "win".

[Sacred Silence]

I vote Jeffery for general.

[mattroe]

Media kills war.

We also didnt have to lose the vietnam war, we are just to pussy to use any good weapons.
This has a lot to do with the UN and how its a pussy convention.I know i didnt explain anytng i just said, and i dont really fukingcare it should be easy enough to get if you think about it.

[Kyir]

Media kills war.

We also didnt have to lose the vietnam war, we are just to pussy to use any good weapons.
This has a lot to do with the UN and how its a pussy convention.I know i didnt explain anytng i just said, and i dont really fukingcare it should be easy enough to get if you think about it.

You seem pretty raged.

[Daemon Bloodmaw]

Media kills war.

We also didnt have to lose the vietnam war, we are just to pussy to use any good weapons.
This has a lot to do with the UN and how its a pussy convention.I know i didnt explain anytng i just said, and i dont really fukingcare it should be easy enough to get if you think about it.

Agent Orange? Napalm? The husband of a woman at my work is crippled for life from chemicals in Vietnam. Not like he-lost-a-leg-crippled, I mean neurologically damaged.

I take it by good weapons you mean nukes, right? Because that's a great solution.

And I'm also assuming that you're in the military or will be joining when you're able, yes? And that you have an in-depth knowledge of guerrilla warfare and war tactics?

Because either way, you sound like an idiot. It's more complicated than dropping a nuclear missile. That's the solution you make when you're 11 joking with your brother.

[Take a Look]

Someone said something about the France army being weak...

the French Armed Forces constitutes the largest military in Europe and the 14th largest in the world by troops! They haver around a Million Personnel Power.

The French Armed Forces however have the 2nd highest expenditure of any military in the world, as well as the 3rd largest nuclear force in the world.

[CRX687]

You know... there is freedom all over the world... especially in Europe...

I do not think American people get more freedom than unknown tribes in Africa... Does that make Africa even better country to live in?

USA would be a cool country if you made the school system effective, made young people smart(generally, no individuals), stopped the natural disasters somehow(there are countries with no hurricanes and almost the same rights) and stopped being brainwashed by politicians and media about being the best country in the world(which is not true)... or if you realised that it is not trues... but I already covered that(under making young people smart). There are more negative sides of America... These are the ones that popped in my head right away.


America does have its good sides. Fast food and Hollywood mostly.


But all things considered, these negatives are pretty negligible compared to the negatives of other countries. Every system has it's flaws. I mean, at least the education is free, they could be better at the disaster response thing, but it works reasonably well, and you can argue that the brainwashed by the media thing is a natural consequence of this type of society - which also comes with more choices for everyone.

That say, America is by far the best country to live in IF you can earn a living wage. If you're poor, America's safety net doesn't even make top 10. And that's only judging a very materialisitic set of criteria. In terms of cultural richness and values, American mainstream culture doesn't come close to the "best".

[R G]

Is everyone in denial about the fact that the US lost the war in Vietnam?

we lost against the natives guerilla warfare, practically the same scenario we are in right now in Iraq.

Vietnam even got to a point where soldiers refused to fight, against orders from their commanding officers.

The US could have very well won in Vietnam, but if you study history it will reveal that congress took away the funding of the war.....sounds eeirly familar doesn't it. Of course the region went down hill from there, and as mentioned earlier resulted in the slaughter of an estimated 1.7 million people.

The peacenics got their peace....but isn't a person at their most peaceful state when they are dead? I am sure you have been to a funeral and overheard someone say while they are looking at some one who has passed...."they look so peaceful". Makes you wonder if the quenticential mark of someone being peaceful being their own demise.

The US is not losing the war in Iraq...What even makes you think that? Great strides have been made, but the Moveon.org crowd would like to repeat history in Vietnam by taking away the funding for the war. Wonder how many people will die this time by leaving before the region is fully stable?
AHHH Peace!!!

[-=Gun=-]

i dont see how we could have won in Vietnam, other then just bomb the hell out of half the country, which would result in so many innocent deaths i dont think you could call it a victory.

That's kind of a weird way to look at things, that when someones dead they're fine, i personally don't believe in an afterlife, if you're dead, you're dead, but if there were, couldn't it also depend on how you died, or your mental state before dying?

what makes you think that we are winning? the fact that we've lost thousands of US soldiers and killed more then three times that Iraqi civilians? Installing a puppet US run government so it looks like we occupied the country succesfully. The Iraqi population doesn't want us to be there, the so called "enemy combatants" we are fighting are the civilians, don't you think that it's time we got their message?

[Kyir]

Someone said something about the France army being weak...

the French Armed Forces constitutes the largest military in Europe and the 14th largest in the world by troops! They haver around a Million Personnel Power.

The French Armed Forces however have the 2nd highest expenditure of any military in the world, as well as the 3rd largest nuclear force in the world.

It doesn't matter if they surrender to everyone though.

ZING!

[*TBS*_H&]

I don't drink.

But I will admit that we have one outstanding flaw.

The south.


you just dissed me and worker. we both live in baton rouge, louisiana.

plus were the NCAA football NATIONAL CHAMPS.Heh and people actually thought ohio state could win... So shove it.

[Kyir]

you just dissed me and worker. we both live in baton rouge, louisiana.

plus were the NCAA football NATIONAL CHAMPS.Heh and people actually thought ohio state could win... So shove it.

It's called a joke.

They're usually not serious.

EXCEPT MY STATEMENTS ABOUT FRANCE!

[Liquid Swordsman]

amuuurka?

now that's a sad attempt at being funny

[Worker]

you just dissed me and worker. we both live in baton rouge, louisiana.

plus were the NCAA football NATIONAL CHAMPS.Heh and people actually thought ohio state could win... So shove it.
Technically I dont live in baton rouge....iv gone into hiding.:*ph34r:


While were on the subject, are there any more Louisiana tao nerds out there?

[Forest_Archer]

Media kills war.

We also didnt have to lose the vietnam war, we are just to pussy to use any good weapons.
This has a lot to do with the UN and how its a pussy convention.I know i didnt explain anytng i just said, and i dont really fukingcare it should be easy enough to get if you think about it.

derrrr derr der derrr

gunz. we has them. letz use t3h good onez. who car3z wot happenz to t3h civilianz

[Liquid Swordsman]

derrrr derr der derrr

gunz. we has them. letz use t3h good onez. who car3z wot happenz to t3h civilianz

i'd shoot you in the face

[Daemon Bloodmaw]

I spent the last year down at Texas A&M, Worker. My roommate was from Beaumont.

So I'm close-ish?

[Faulty Logic]

For the record Khmer Rouge was responsible for millions of deaths in the Cambodia killing fields.

Khmer Rouge was not installed by the US government. It was fully supported by the Chinese. I am sure you could say that the people of that country began to support Khmer Rouge, but the US did not support them. It was an unfortunate series of events for sure. I suspect that if the peacenics of the 70's had not put so much pressure on congress to stop funding for the Vietnam war, that the US could have intervened and assisted.

It is really ironic that the same thing was repeated in Afganistan when we helped to toss out the Soviets in the 80's, only to let the country to become over ran by a bunch of fanatics by not helping out...now look where we are.

The exact same thing could happen in Iraq. You would think that eventually people would learn from previous events in history. Right or wrong on whether or not you were justified in the begining you have to leave things better than they were.


As far as Vietnam is concerned you have to keep in mind that France was there first. Of course the French are only good at making wine and frying potatoes and haven't been a viable military force since Napolean died....guess it's hard to fight when you are running the other way....anyway the North Vietnam leaders had agreed to stay in North Vietnam with the world and that is how we became involved. Were we wrong to be there? Who's to say? My only question was where was the rest of the world? Didn't they care that they were lied too?


1st I dont really want to argue so I'm really not going to say much more than:

We have helped install governments that suite our needs at that specific time only to have it backfire later. We removed the leader of Cambodia, installed a weak leader we knew we could manipulate and because of the weak infrastructure, the Khmer Rouge was able to take over. I dont want to get get all counter factual and say that if we had not done this, they would not have done that, but it's how it seems.

[Worker]

1st I dont really want to argue so I'm really not going to say much more than:

We have helped install governments that suite our needs at that specific time only to have it backfire later. We removed the leader of Cambodia, installed a weak leader we knew we could manipulate and because of the weak infrastructure, the Khmer Rouge was able to take over. I dont want to get get all counter factual and say that if we had not done this, they would not have done that, but it's how it seems.You need to get your facts straight on Cambodia.

[Jonspen]

Americans are fat. Go eat McDonalds.

[Faulty Logic]

You need to get your facts straight on Cambodia.

I'm referring to the fact that the Khmer Rouge was a group who started out as a people's rebellion to take down Lon Nol, who we as a country fully supported seeing as he allowed the USA to use Cambodia's land during the Vietnam Police Action resulting in over 700,000 innocent Cambodian deaths.

I have more facts, but as I said I really dont want to argue this out.

[Ächilles]

Americans are fat. Go eat McDonalds....

[Worker]

I'm referring to the fact that the Khmer Rouge was a group who started out as a people's rebellion to take down Lon Nol, who we as a country fully supported seeing as he allowed the USA to use Cambodia's land during the Vietnam Police Action resulting in over 700,000 innocent Cambodian deaths.

I have more facts, but as I said I really dont want to argue this out.

You don't want to argue it out because the Khmer Rouge was backed by communist which would have overthrown Nol's government regardless of his pro-western stance. The only people using Cambodian land were the VC and the NVA (which Nol wanted out) on the Ho Chi Mihn Trail, which we bombed.

[R G]

i dont see how we could have won in Vietnam, other then just bomb the hell out of half the country, which would result in so many innocent deaths i dont think you could call it a victory.

I think we were on the right path by trying to cut off the supply lines in Cambodia. Cambodia was suppose to have been a neutral country but don't for a minute think that the North Vietmanese were able to make all of their own weapons or supply their own food supply for that matter. They were being supplied by the Chinese. Unfortunately the Kent State affair only hastened the pull out with Congress pulling funding for the war.

Like I said earlier you can not start something without finishing it....whether you disagree with the reasons for starting it in the first place.


That's kind of a weird way to look at things, that when someones dead they're fine, i personally don't believe in an afterlife, if you're dead, you're dead, but if there were, couldn't it also depend on how you died, or your mental state before dying?

I tend to agree with you, but I can't think of ever going to wake without ever hearing someone udder the almost passe phrase "He/she looks so peaceful".

what makes you think that we are winning? the fact that we've lost thousands of US soldiers and killed more then three times that Iraqi civilians? Installing a puppet US run government so it looks like we occupied the country succesfully. The Iraqi population doesn't want us to be there, the so called "enemy combatants" we are fighting are the civilians, don't you think that it's time we got their message?

Your point of loss of life is really pathetic. We lost more brave soldiers in many more wars....Would you say we lost WWII where in a single day we lost nearly as many troops as we have for several years in Iraq? Also your estimation of Iraqi civilians loss of life is an exaggeration....plain and simple. Sure I have seen the anti-war websites that state that crap, but it's nothing more than rhetoric for people who have very little understanding of modern warfare or for idiots who are easily lead like sheep. Has their been loss of life from innocents? Sure...but when you compare it to the mass bombings of Hiroshima or carpet bombing of Berlin it really does pale in comparison.

Also I will point out that once a civilian picks up a gun and starts shooting then I would no longer classify them as an innocent civilian...but that's just me.:rolleyes: And many of the innocent civilians as you refer to them aren't even from Iraq. Do you think they are on vacation or perhaps to shoot up some American troops?

You also really misrepresent the fact that all Iraqi's don't want us their either. Ask a Kurd who had a family member (over 8000 people including women and children) who choked on poison gas if they are glad that Saddam is not around anymore? Or ask a Iraqi about who don't even know where their loved one is other than one of the over 250 mass(http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/27000.htm) graves scattered around the country. The fact is as bad as Iraq is right now it's better off in many respects.

An opinion poll that was taken in 2007 said this....

According to an opinion poll of 5,000 Iraqis carried out over the past month, 49% say they are better off now than under Saddam, and 26% say life was better under Saddam. More than one in four said they had had a close relative murdered in the past three years.

Just think about that for a second....One in 4 people have had a close relative murdered due to the civil conflict primarily between the Sunni and Shiites, yet 49% of the people say they are better off.

Well you say what about the 26% that say life was better under Saddam....well it would stand to reason since about the same amount of the population were Sunni which Saddam was known to be a devout Sunni.

Who know's about the other 25%....the article didn't say anything about them so either they refused to comment or say things are about the same.

[R G]

1st I dont really want to argue so I'm really not going to say much more than:

We have helped install governments that suite our needs at that specific time only to have it backfire later. We removed the leader of Cambodia, installed a weak leader we knew we could manipulate and because of the weak infrastructure, the Khmer Rouge was able to take over. I dont want to get get all counter factual and say that if we had not done this, they would not have done that, but it's how it seems.

Your facts about Cambodia are based upon, if I dare to say, Faulty Logic.

[R G]

oops double post

[-=Gun=-]

you call them brave soldiers, but how many of them are willing to fight? Our government had such a little regard for the lives of our soldiers, they didn't properly fund them for the first few years of war and now we the National Guard in Iraq, what's with that?

I'm not trying to compare how many people died in this war or that war, i know many died in WW2. My numbers are not exaggerated, an approximate number of deaths it 4,000 americans and 1.2 million Iraqi's. You can look that up anywhere.

But the reason the civilians are picking up guns and shooting at us is because they don't want us there, plain and simple.
I never said life was good under Saddam, i'm sure they're glad hes gone, but that doesn't mean that they're glad that our soldiers are there too. And what are we doing there now? Saddam is gone. You say we're fighting to create a state of peace, thats hypocritical.

And tell me where did you get those numbers from? because i can bet that it's from an untrustworthy american media source that changes the facts to make things look better then they really are.

[Worker]

I am confused, how did you double post with a post in between R G?

[FreddyAdu23]

I liked the canada is really big video.

[-=Gun=-]

that video my friend, deserved a "lol"

[R G]

I am confused, how did you double post with a post in between R G?

Good question....Sometimes I will open up other webpages for research on what I am saying.....I then forget to close them and I might have like 6 pages open then I screw up and double post. :o Call me a big ole noob. :(

you call them brave soldiers, but how many of them are willing to fight? Our government had such a little regard for the lives of our soldiers, they didn't properly fund them for the first few years of war and now we the National Guard in Iraq, what's with that?

Well it depends on what war you are talking about....WWI, WWII, Vietnam or the Iraqi wars. I would venture to say that as we as a society have aged we have become more pussyfied like yourself.:p During WWI and WWII there was a public outrage after Pearl Harbor was attacked. Some of the bravest people I have ever met fought in WWII. Heck my neighbor signed up at age 16 by lying about his age to sign up to fight.

Vietnam was a different story...My father actually volunteered to fight in Vietnam...and believe it or not I was born while he was there.;)

The difference in the Iraqi wars are that the entire force were not drafted, they signed up to be soldiers and soldiers fight believe it or not.:rolleyes: Do they agree with the war? Most do from talking with them....and I meet alot in my line of work...in fact I was at a base today. Do some disagree with the war and would rather not fight? I am sure they do...Hell I don't agree with everything my employer does either, but I fullfill my obligations just the same....Believe it or not most people in the military want to make a difference and feel that they are doing so.

I'm not trying to compare how many people died in this war or that war, i know many died in WW2. My numbers are not exaggerated, an approximate number of deaths it 4,000 americans and 1.2 million Iraqi's. You can look that up anywhere.

I could really care less about the 1.2 million civilians with an AK-47 in their hands. I do care about the 90K http://www.iraqbodycount.org/ innocent civilians that might get caught in the crossfire, or get tangled up in a car bomb, or murdered simply because they are a differnet sect of Islam....and I do care about the 4000 brave soldiers who were killed in the name of liberty and freedom.

[QUOTE]But the reason the civilians are picking up guns and shooting at us is because they don't want us there, plain and simple.

It's way more complicated than that, Mr. Simpleton.:p

I never said life was good under Saddam, i'm sure they're glad hes gone, but that doesn't mean that they're glad that our soldiers are there too. And what are we doing there now? Saddam is gone. You say we're fighting to create a state of peace, thats hypocritical.

Oh no I am sure they wish the mercenaries would leave and the true citizens of Iraq could just go about living in peace and harmony. Problem is you have to see that the government is stable.


And tell me where did you get those numbers from? because i can bet that it's from an untrustworthy american media source that changes the facts to make things look better then they really are.

Tell me what you wanna bet? $500?? $1000?? And seriously do you think the american media would use a poll that would help justify the war in Iraq???:rolleyes: I mean really where you been?:confused:

[Daemon Bloodmaw]

Can you even imagine what would happen without peacekeeper forces? Or have you forgotten the sect warfare of the last few years with major religious buildings being destroyed by RPGs.

I'm not for the war. But none of your arguments are sound in my ears.

And tell me where did you get those numbers from? because i can bet that it's from an untrustworthy american media source that changes the facts to make things look better then they really are.

And now, I will disregard anything else that you have to say. Any valid point you may have had has been completely overcast by that little blurb of intelligence there.

[meat.eater]

i dont see how we could have won in Vietnam, other then just bomb the hell out of half the country, which would result in so many innocent deaths i dont think you could call it a victory.

That's kind of a weird way to look at things, that when someones dead they're fine, i personally don't believe in an afterlife, if you're dead, you're dead, but if there were, couldn't it also depend on how you died, or your mental state before dying?

what makes you think that we are winning? the fact that we've lost thousands of US soldiers and killed more then three times that Iraqi civilians? Installing a puppet US run government so it looks like we occupied the country succesfully. The Iraqi population doesn't want us to be there, the so called "enemy combatants" we are fighting are the civilians, don't you think that it's time we got their message?

So says the person who would rather have continued WW2 for several more years instead of ending it with the bomb, thinking that would have resulted in less death. :rolleyes:

To play devils advocate: what makes you think you're so right? Have you talked to any Iraqi's? Do you know the living conditions and social positions of the "civilians" who are still fighting us? If they're shooting at us, are they really "civilians?" Do you know what their ideals are? You dont know any of this. At all.

It seems to me that all you do is accuse the rest of the US for being naive for listening to the news and media press conferences. Yet, the only way you formulate opinions is by purposely thinking the opposite of that these mainstream news sources say (or your own private conspiracy news sources that have ZERO valid annotations for information)!

Get off your high horse. You're no different and you know no more than anyone else. You just choose to believe or formulate the worst possible outcome or the outcome against America--which I find sad.

[R G]

Don't look for Gun to post anymore in this thread meateater....He has a tendancy to talk sheot about stuff and when he is called to task/or questioned he usually just goes away.

[Hoolwath]

Isn't Gun a girl?

[X-Legend-X XF]

Isn't Gun a girl?
I think so,
also i'm not american (canadian i am) but i can say that i think they
probley saved the lifes of alot of there own soildiers by bombing Vietnam.
"War does not determine who is right - only who is left"


and there wasent much left of vietnam.


"Mankind must put an end to war, or war will put an end to mankind."


i just like that quote...

[R G]

Gunz is a girl!!! I had them figured for some idiot preteen man-boy.

[Nitanius Nolund]

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[Kyir]

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All of my arguments have been countered with one image.