Luck

[Tree Hugger]

Luck in tactics is way too big of a factor, you could be totally more skilled than a player than luck screws you over. I m suggesting reorganizing stats of units were you hit everytime? I dont know just a thought..

thank you

[Jeffery]

WWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[T Solo]

I agree, luck is what has brought this game to where it is today. We should make this game just as lame as chess! Perfect! This is revolutionary!, Tree Hugger, I love you.

[Tree Hugger]

Just a suggestion ^^ luck gets annoying...if your better you should win. If your worse you should lose. Chess is a great game :) btw

[The Anti]

While I agree with you, just think of playing a game where every single attack was a hit. It would be rather retarded. A game would take 5 minutes.

[Deadpool]

yeahh, i kind of disagree. Luck is a major factor in this game but without it, this game would be pretty pointless.

[Shamus]

http://www.csc-media.com/Signs/Threads/bitch%20slapped.gif

[Jeffery]

Just a suggestion ^^ luck gets annoying...if your better you should win. If your worse you should lose. Chess is a great game :) btw
Did you notice that this is not chess?

[Magician]

What? It's not? :eek:

What have I been doing all these years... Speaking of Chess, though - we have a game to complete at some point, Jeffery, assuming you still play on Gameknot?

[spirit ninja]

Luck in tactics is way too big of a factor, you could be totally more skilled than a player than luck screws you over. I m suggesting reorganizing stats of units were you hit everytime? I dont know just a thought..

thank you

AMEN!

Some guy got 4 frontals on 2 of my knights today. :mad:

[Jeffery]

What? It's not? :eek:

What have I been doing all these years... Speaking of Chess, though - we have a game to complete at some point, Jeffery, assuming you still play on Gameknot?
I should .... WAH

[Tree Hugger]

well thx for your opinions :)... i guess its a big no ^^

[-FF-]

Luck is a major role in the game, I think it just shouldn't come into play so often. I'm talking about the ridiculous hits/blocks btw.

[Shiznit]

WWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I second this notion.

[Zander]

WWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I approve.

[Zander]

God dammit, I hadn't seen Shiznit's post.
I take it back.

[Shiznit]

Comforting?

[Lumberjack]

You only don't like luck if you don't have it. :rolleyes:

[The Butcher]

edit :dry:

[Lieutenant]

Luck in tactics is way too big of a factor, you could be totally more skilled than a player than luck screws you over. I m suggesting reorganizing stats of units were you hit everytime? I dont know just a thought..

thank you

Play chess instead. Same way you can lose by tons of luck, you can win a game by tons of luck.

[Lieutenant]

What? It's not? :eek:

What have I been doing all these years... Speaking of Chess, though - we have a game to complete at some point, Jeffery, assuming you still play on Gameknot?

I play on gameknot! :D

[Jeffery]

I play on gameknot! :D
Whatsyername?

[Celtic34]

Ramble Ramble Ramble they should add 100% blocking to clerics as well.

[Zander]

edit :dry:
Same thing I did, huh?

[Shiznit]

Just cause i'm the /win.

[NejixKun]

Just make it so that every hit >50% hits almost every time, and every hit <50% misses almost all the time...So that people can actually estimate and guess it's going to hit every single time. Make knight side blocks similar to a pyro frontal, but keep the percentages the same.

[Shamus]

Why would you make knight side blocks similar to pyro frontals? Knights would block everything.

[uniquinous]

if you're truly better than someone, you will win every time.

if you're even with someone, it will go back and forth. The great thing about statistics and probability is that, in the long run, it averages out. People generally complain when things are more pronounced near the end. If you go and get a front shot on your opponent's knight on the first turn, and the knight gets completely healed up, you don't notice it. But when a witch blocks a front shot when there are 2 units left on the field, and that determines the game, then "omg its cuz luck!"!

Well, in all actuality, both instances have the exact same probability - the former just happened when you didn't care as much about it. The point is, you need to make decisions based on good odds, not long shots. If you and your opponent both operate by this principle, than "luck" doesn't actually favor any one person, but both equally.

[spirit ninja]

if you're truly better than someone, you will win every time.

if you're even with someone, it will go back and forth. The great thing about statistics and probability is that, in the long run, it averages out. People generally complain when things are more pronounced near the end. If you go and get a front shot on your opponent's knight on the first turn, and the knight gets completely healed up, you don't notice it. But when a witch blocks a front shot when there are 2 units left on the field, and that determines the game, then "omg its cuz luck!"!

Well, in all actuality, both instances have the exact same probability - the former just happened when you didn't care as much about it. The point is, you need to make decisions based on good odds, not long shots. If you and your opponent both operate by this principle, than "luck" doesn't actually favor any one person, but both equally.


Am I the only person who thinks this was complete non-sense?:huh:

And no if your better then someone and there lucky you wont win, and you know that.. you can be playing a grey for the matter and be better then them but they get 4 frontals on your knights through-out the game, 2 frontals on your scouts, there pyros both block, there witch blocks, and there sassy block twice while your units only having 1 block from a knight. Now lets re-coup what you just said. :dry:

EDIT: not trying to argue with you uni. :)

[Jeffery]

Am I the only person who thinks this was complete non-sense?:huh:

And no if your better then someone and there lucky you wont win, and you know that.. you can be playing a grey for the matter and be better then them but they get 4 frontals on your knights through-out the game, 2 frontals on your scouts, there pyros both block, there witch blocks, and there sassy block twice while your units only having 1 block from a knight. Now lets re-coup what you just said. :dry:

EDIT: not trying to argue with you uni. :)
What he said makes perfect sense.

The odds of a block don;t change, just how you notice them do. A block in the first turns of the game are barely noticed because there are plenty of other units on the field. Whereas a block at the end of the game SEEMS to be more important. But the two blocks are statistically the same.

And, luck or not, the better player will win more than the other player. Not every time, but more often than he will lose. Uni does have that one wrong. The ONLY time his statement does work is when someone is vastly better than the other player.

[uniquinous]

Am I the only person who thinks this was complete non-sense?:huh:Yes. That should tell you something.

What he said makes perfect sense.

The odds of a block don;t change, just how you notice them do. A block in the first turns of the game are barely noticed because there are plenty of other units on the field. Whereas a block at the end of the game SEEMS to be more important. But the two blocks are statistically the same.

And, luck or not, the better player will win more than the other player. Not every time, but more often than he will lose. Uni does have that one wrong.That's true. Jeffery's revision is more accurate.

[Wizzy`]

Am I the only person who thinks this was complete non-sense?:huh:

And no if your better then someone and there lucky you wont win, and you know that.. you can be playing a grey for the matter and be better then them but they get 4 frontals on your knights through-out the game, 2 frontals on your scouts, there pyros both block, there witch blocks, and there sassy block twice while your units only having 1 block from a knight. Now lets re-coup what you just said. :dry:

EDIT: not trying to argue with you uni. :)

game statistics don't change due to a persons "luck"

[NejixKun]

Lol.

I think what uniq said was what I said about 4 times in my Deductions thread, and everyone ignored me there. Just goes to show...

[spirit ninja]

What he said makes perfect sense.

The odds of a block don;t change, just how you notice them do. A block in the first turns of the game are barely noticed because there are plenty of other units on the field. Whereas a block at the end of the game SEEMS to be more important. But the two blocks are statistically the same.

And, luck or not, the better player will win more than the other player. Not every time, but more often than he will lose. Uni does have that one wrong. The ONLY time his statement does work is when someone is vastly better than the other player.

did....did jeffery just come to my aid?.....:shocked:

[Shamus]

No. Try reading it again.

[Baseballboy]

did....did jeffery just come to my aid?.....:shocked:
Nope, it helped uniq get what he said more clear.

[spirit ninja]

What he said makes perfect sense.




I rest my case.

[steve12]

http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33237

Die.

[uniquinous]

my ramble

Am I the only person who thinks this was complete non-sense?:huh:

What he said makes perfect sense.
Note the order. Jeffery was referring to what I said as making perfect sense. Not you. He was disagreeing with you.

I rest my case.yeah you tend to use this phrase a lot. You do realize it sounds kinda dumb when you use it like that, right? especially since you probably haven't rested your case now that i proved you wrong...

[spirit ninja]

Your a moron. Thats the first time I used this. ;)

your annoying, im done arguing with you.

[Hugh Junit]

"For some players, luck itself is an art." - Martin Scorsese.

[S3RO]

Is luck a statistical anomaly, or an inevitability?

[uniquinous]

Your a moron. Thats the first time I used this. ;)

your annoying, im done arguing with you.oh I'm sorry. i just noticed it in the only other thread I noted your existence:
http://tacticsarena.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1578689&postcount=2996

if by "first time I used this" you meant "I'll shut up now", then you'd be correct.

So I take it that your case is rested AND you're done arguing? Glad I came to that conclusion for you in the black text of my previous post.

Now do me a favor, dear, and stop calling other people morons. ;)

[Jeffery]

Is luck a statistical anomaly, or an inevitability?
Both.

[DIGIX]

You can't fix ''luck''

By the way, it isn't ''luck'', it's either the blocking system is corrupt, or you had tons of blocks last game and now for your next game, you get no blocks, it makes sense

[Rubbish]

"For some players, luck itself is an art." - Martin Scorsese.
Players as in gamblers?

[spirit ninja]

oh I'm sorry. i just noticed it in the only other thread I noted your existence:
http://tacticsarena.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1578689&postcount=2996

if by "first time I used this" you meant "I'll shut up now", then you'd be correct.

So I take it that your case is rested AND you're done arguing? Glad I came to that conclusion for you in the black text of my previous post.

Now do me a favor, dear, and stop calling other people morons. ;)


Im loving all of this attention I get from you son. and despite anything you've said(I really didnt bother to pay heed to any of it) I still think your an idiot,and annoying kid. I call you kid because im hoping your not grown or this would be distinctly pathetic. :dry:

[NejixKun]

Im loving all of this attention I get from you son. and despite anything you've said(I really didnt bother to pay heed to any of it) I still think your an idiot,and annoying kid. I call you kid because im hoping your not grown or this would be distinctly pathetic. :dry:

I think "Your" the idiot. All you did was call him names.
P.S. I absolutely adore your grammar.

[uniquinous]

Im loving all of this attention I get from you son. and despite anything you've said(I really didnt bother to pay heed to any of it) I still think your an idiot,and annoying kid. I call you kid because im hoping your not grown or this would be distinctly pathetic. :dry:your defeat is soothing. protip for next time: you'll need more than name calling to take me on.

I directly proved you wrong, despite the arrogance. This is where you quietly exit the thread. :)

[Supersmiley :-)]

I agree, luck is what has brought this game to where it is today. We should make this game just as lame as chess! Perfect! This is revolutionary!, Tree Hugger, I love you.

No wonder you can't say chessexpert in game!

Because t3h admins don't like chess!

[shurtugal]

I got a 1% block against IROK the other day :tongue2: