Sleeping Aid

[houckeah]

I've had a problem for years sleeping. I've never come to a solution for the problem. I've literally tried everything... Ambien, Xanax, Valium, Alcohol, Marijuana... I've literally tried everything and I sit here... awake again... going crazy for another night. Honestly, I don't know why I have this problem. Maybe I think too much or maybe it is a medical problem. I honestly am just lost. I've seen countless doctors and I have no solution.

I would have created a poll to ask you guys what works but if I could name it I would have tried it. Does anybody have any help for me. Please, I am seriously sick of this.

[Lex]

Masturbate as many times as you can.

[uniquinous]

no time for a full response, but you need to get yourself in good habits of sleep hygiene.

[ArcPaladinZero]

no time for a full response, but you need to get yourself in good habits of sleep hygiene.

Gonna have to agree with this primarily, and when you mean you're seeing doctors, which kind? There are specialists, ever thought about doing a sleep study?

[shurtugal]

Have you tried excersize...... that tends to work ;)

While on topic, everyone has a 'sleeping position', and mine is on my right shoulder/side. For the past 2 months or so, my right shoulder has been messed up. I'm quite sure it's my sleeping habbits, but it's so uncomfortable to sleep on my other side/back that I can't fall asleep. So, any advice for that?

Try not drinking things with caffiene or gauranna (sp?)

[bloodreign]

If you are a coffee drinker, cut the coffee out. (adrenal fatigue)
If there is some deep issue your dealing with you must come to terms with it.
Sleep hygene and patterns are a plus.
Computer use before bed or extended computer use may (probably not) be a contributing factor.

alcohol or (self pleasuring ) will not realy work with a problem like this.

I had gone through the same thing 5 years ago i couldn't sleep (but cold sweats and feeling like the room wasn't hot enough) plus constant uncomfortableness....i unfortunatly had to SPARTAN through the episode (lasted a good 4 years.) doctors couldn't help despite blood tests, they saw nothing wrong with me.

but as for you maybe get a blood test.... and hope you do find a solution.

[Coffin Fedder]

I've had a problem for years sleeping. I've never come to a solution for the problem. I've literally tried everything... Ambien, Xanax, Valium, Alcohol, Marijuana... I've literally tried everything and I sit here... awake again... going crazy for another night. Honestly, I don't know why I have this problem. Maybe I think too much or maybe it is a medical problem. I honestly am just lost. I've seen countless doctors and I have no solution.

I would have created a poll to ask you guys what works but if I could name it I would have tried it. Does anybody have any help for me. Please, I am seriously sick of this.

Well, I mean you have your simple Tylenol PM and all of that what not but by the sounds of it apperently that won't work. This will sound pretty dumb but have you ever took up meditation? I did it for awhile and my body was relaxed I felt great. I am not gonna lie, I have to take it up again because of stress and all of that what not but it helps. Also, hot tubs. Your body may not feel comfortable and may be irrtated, the heat will relax your muscles and regulate your heartbeat really, steady pass. All of those things can make your heartrate different from a sleeping rate which is needed.

Meditation and hot tubs. It works for me. try it out bud.

[Godmic18]

Basically you have to force yourself yo get into a good sleeping pattern. In other words, go to sleep the same time every day for a couple weeks. Staying up different times each night combined with a bit of stress adds to insomnia. Used to be me. I'd sleep only 2 or 3 hours a day because I couldn't sleep. That or google some non-drug related solutions.

[The AIDS Virus]

Get into a pattern like a few people have said and exercise more. Exercise especially helps me when insomnia gets to me because I am a night owl, but my professors are all morning people... weirdos.

[Zander]

no time for a full response, but you need to get yourself in good habits of sleep hygiene.

this > medication.

[houckeah]

That is hard for me though. I never know when I am going to bed. I'm 20 years old, I go to school, work, parties, and finally I sleep. Those things combined don't let me schedule when I sleep very well. Any other ideas?

[Magician]

Don't party every night?

[Tama Drummer]

I used to hate trying to fall asleep at night. Then I started working third shift. Go to work at 10pm, come home and go to bed by 7am. Awesome. Never had a problem falling asleep. :)

But since that's probably not an option, have you tried white noise? It's supposed to help. I've tried using radio static as well as TV static. It seemed to help me fall asleep, but I personally didn't like the noise too much, if that makes sense. There are other types of "white noise" that might be better to listen to though, just google around a bit.

Also, just noise in general helps me. I like to fall asleep with the TV on sometimes, but with the volume really low so I wouldn't get distracted by it, yet still loud enough that I'd hear something. The flashing lights from the TV seem to help me sleep for some reason.

Lastly, maybe some music? I like playing drone, but sometimes even that distracts me a bit because it's stuff I listen to and enjoy regularly. But if you're not used to listening to drone, it probably won't seem distracting and might help. I'd recommend Nadja, and the album Desire In Uneasiness. ;)

[Hatchet Warrior]

What I am about to say has nothing to do with being negative towards you, but a fine solution may be you need to get laid. It's a 50/50 shot on working, but if it does it's a win win situation for you.

The white noise and music usually work as well like Tama said.

[uniquinous]

That is hard for me though. I never know when I am going to bed. I'm 20 years old, I go to school, work, parties, and finally I sleep. Those things combined don't let me schedule when I sleep very well. Any other ideas?
Patient: "doctor! doctor! no matter what I do I still feel sick!"
Doctor: "well, have you been taking the medication and following the advice I gave you for it?"
Patient: "no I don't have time for that stuff"
Doctor: ".. ...."

You're a car guy, right dirka? You take the time to gas up your car, maintain it with whatever work needs to be put into it to keep it running (smoothly). Your body is a machine, and it similarly needs work. Healthy lifestyles are not passively acquired, but demand good balanced nutrition, exercise, and sleep habits. It takes (minor) sacrifice, just like everything else in life. If you want it, you need to put the time and effort into it.

Also, it's not just about sleeping the same time every night. No food or TV (or computer or anything else with brighter lights) 30 minutes before sleep. Do not do anything else in bed, such as reading, before you sleep - ensure you are only in bed to sleep. If you can't sleep, don't lay in bed (staring at the clock). It's actually better to get up, do some light reading or something simple (again, no food or TV), and then try again when you feel you are getting sleepy.

You're looking for a chemical method to compensate for the natural programming of your body you refuse to allow. I have to tell you outright, as great as science and medicine is, you can't beat the real thing.

[The Butcher]

alcohol or (self pleasuring ) will not realy work with a problem like this.



Myth.

[Terps rock]

Try to wear yourself out in the day, doing X-Treme activities like bear wrestling.

[The Butcher]

Try to wear yourself out in the day, doing X-Treme activities like bear wrestling.

I find bear wrestling kind of boring...

I've switched to fire wrestling. It's A LOT harder..

[MokoToko]

I find bear wrestling kind of boring...

I've switched to fire wrestling. It's A LOT harder..

What? All you need is a nice hose and some water.

[Godmic18]

That is hard for me though. I never know when I am going to bed. I'm 20 years old, I go to school, work, parties, and finally I sleep. Those things combined don't let me schedule when I sleep very well. Any other ideas?

Graduate.

[Ignition]

Just start playing World of WarCraft. You'll be looking for ways to be doing less sleeping.
Worked for me.

[The Butcher]

What? All you need is a nice hose and some water.

Sure, if you want to do it the easy way.

[Godmic18]

Just start playing World of WarCraft. You'll be looking for ways to be doing less sleeping.
Worked for me.

Not really. If you had, you'd be using the everyman or uberman sleep cycle by now and there is no reason to play wow that much. I mean, it's a virtual dress up doll game... C'MON!!

[The Butcher]

Not really. If you had, you'd be using the everyman or uberman sleep cycle by now and there is no reason to play wow that much. I mean, it's a virtual dress up doll game... C'MON!!

We miss you XBL.

Kick that girl to the curb and come back to us.

[savanna]

I've had a problem for years sleeping. I've never come to a solution for the problem. I've literally tried everything... Ambien, Xanax, Valium, Alcohol, Marijuana... I've literally tried everything and I sit here... awake again... going crazy for another night. Honestly, I don't know why I have this problem. Maybe I think too much or maybe it is a medical problem. I honestly am just lost. I've seen countless doctors and I have no solution.

I would have created a poll to ask you guys what works but if I could name it I would have tried it. Does anybody have any help for me. Please, I am seriously sick of this.


hey, theres a few things you could try.
i suffer from insomnia also, and im on medication for it, which works most of the time. i take trazidone, three a night. ambien is bullshit, i could have told that that doesnt do anything.
you might want to retalk to your doctor, and maybe go see a pyschiatrist (no not to talk to). sometimes, the nerves and what not in your head wont let you sleep, and depression and what not, if anythings bothering you, it makes it hard to sleep. some anti depressants have strong sleeping side affects. i used to take some at night, and it made it a little easier to fall asleep.

[The Butcher]

3 a night seems really excessive Sav, especially for someone like you. (Young and light weight).

Are you going over the dosage?

JW

Going over the dosage FTW.

[savanna]

3 a night seems really excessive Sav, especially for someone like you. (Young and light weight).

Are you going over the dosage?

JW

Going over the dosage FTW.

well see, i started out at one, didnt work, then went to two, didnt work, then they said to go up to three. they are 50 mg, its just because of my health problems, it takes more to knock me out, haha
the recommended dosage for adults is three, thats what the bottle says, but of course i started out lower and worked my way up.
i always have to be careful about medication doses cause i take numerous medications and have to be careful about what reactions they could have with one another

[The Butcher]

Yeah you def. want to be careful with that kind of medication. That's what happenned to heath ledger.. supposidly.

[savanna]

yeah, i take 6 different prescription drugs, and then i have to take vitamins to level out my iron and mineral levels. its a pain in the ass, i never wanted to become dependant on medication, ESPECIALLY not this early.
aaaannnndddd.. i cant have caffeine, cause thatd fck my sht up T.T

[The Butcher]

What about cocaine?

That's an acceptable substitute I've heard.

[Wizzy`]

Dirka: Seroquel, it'll make you sleepy.

Dammit, he has me ignored.

[2xfire]

Don't party every night?

Or maybe party more?

[Omega_Paladin]

I used to have insomnia, which sucks. When you have insomnia, you're never really asleep and you're never really awake. Everything is far away, everything is a copy of a copy. Then I started going to some support groups. Babys don't sleep this good.

Now I'm spending a lot of time with my friend Tyler, I think it will be good for me.

[mushroom_girl]

See, I'm having the exact opposite problem! I can't seem to get enough sleep.

I slept for 4 hours after school yesterday, stayed up for a bit and went back to bed at 10 and slept for 7.5 hours. The day before I did just about the same thing.

Still exhausted. :\ Want half of mine?

[Faulty Logic]

I've had a problem for years sleeping. I've never come to a solution for the problem. I've literally tried everything... Ambien, Xanax, Valium, Alcohol, Marijuana... I've literally tried everything and I sit here... awake again... going crazy for another night. Honestly, I don't know why I have this problem. Maybe I think too much or maybe it is a medical problem. I honestly am just lost. I've seen countless doctors and I have no solution.

I would have created a poll to ask you guys what works but if I could name it I would have tried it. Does anybody have any help for me. Please, I am seriously sick of this.

Studies have found that people rarely wake up while experiencing death, its similar to REM but way easier to get into apparently.

[Wizzy`]

I used to have insomnia, which sucks. When you have insomnia, you're never really asleep and you're never really awake. Everything is far away, everything is a copy of a copy. Then I started going to some support groups. Babys don't sleep this good.

Now I'm spending a lot of time with my friend Tyler, I think it will be good for me.

O_P you are the man.

[Jeffery]

I have had insomnia for the last 15 years or so........

When I go to bed, it always takes me a couple of hours to fall asleep. And even then I am awake several times a night.....

My pattern now is go to bed ~11pm. Go to sleep ~2-3am. Wake up at 7am. Every once in a great while I can get to sleep before midnight. But thats rare.

Interestingly enough, when I was working nights, I found I can sleep better during the day. I am a naturally "nocturnal" person. So I get better sleep if I have a daytime sleeping schedule.

There are several studies that have linked those with insomnia to having a nocturnal leaning.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/134115/the_truth_about_nocturnal_people.html

Basically, you have insomnia because you are trying to force your body to have a sleep schedule that it does not like.


Shroomy. It's also been shown in studies that TOO much sleep is bad for you s well. You almost seem less rested because your body "winds down" and loses energy, making you moe tired than when you started.

[Wizzy`]

See, I'm having the exact opposite problem! I can't seem to get enough sleep.

I slept for 4 hours after school yesterday, stayed up for a bit and went back to bed at 10 and slept for 7.5 hours. The day before I did just about the same thing.

Still exhausted. :\ Want half of mine?

You're sleeping too much, stop taking naps after school.

[mushroom_girl]

You're sleeping too much, stop taking naps after school.

No, usually I don't sleep this much but I can't stay awake! I keep on falling asleep in school too. :\

I'll watch a movie, I'll fall asleep. I'll be in the car (as a passenger) and fall asleep. I just get very tired easily lately, and I'm sure it's not mono.

[shurtugal]

I took a power nap during school today:yes2: Had to wake up at 5:30 -.-

[Wizzy`]

No, usually I don't sleep this much but I can't stay awake! I keep on falling asleep in school too. :\

Do cocaine.
Lots of it.

[Faulty Logic]

No, usually I don't sleep this much but I can't stay awake! I keep on falling asleep in school too. :\

I'll watch a movie, I'll fall asleep. I'll be in the car (as a passenger) and fall asleep. I just get very tired easily lately, and I'm sure it's not mono.

If you're on or just had your cycle you can have induced anemia which will make you tired for seemingly no reason

[Wizzy`]

lol

[The Butcher]

I have had insomnia for the last 15 years or so........

When I go to bed, it always takes me a couple of hours to fall asleep. And even then I am awake several times a night.....

My pattern now is go to bed ~11pm. Go to sleep ~2-3am. Wake up at 7am. Every once in a great while I can get to sleep before midnight. But thats rare.

Interestingly enough, when I was working nights, I found I can sleep better during the day. I am a naturally "nocturnal" person. So I get better sleep if I have a daytime sleeping schedule.

There are several studies that have linked those with insomnia to having a nocturnal leaning.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/134115/the_truth_about_nocturnal_people.html

Basically, you have insomnia because you are trying to force your body to have a sleep schedule that it does not like.


Shroomy. It's also been shown in studies that TOO much sleep is bad for you s well. You almost seem less rested because your body "winds down" and loses energy, making you moe tired than when you started.

I can't remember the last time i slept through the night. I get dog tired around 9 -10 and am in bed by 11. But I always wake up, like clock work, at around 4 AM to go to the bathroom and get a snack. Then I go back to bed. Usually i only open one eye to do this.

I'm strange..

[mushroom_girl]

If you're on or just had your cycle you can have induced anemia which will make you tired for seemingly no reason
:) I'm pretty sure I'm aware of girly problems, and that's not it. Thanks though.

Butch...snacks at 4 am is really strange. :p

[The Butcher]

Butch...snacks at 4 am is really strange. :p

I know.. and I swear I'm not a fatty like meat.eater.

[Wizzy`]

I think it's a guy thing. Whenever I wake up in the middle of the night it's always one eye open, bathroom, then downstairs for a drink/snack

[The Butcher]

I think it's a guy thing. Whenever I wake up in the middle of the night it's always one eye open, bathroom, then downstairs for a drink/snack

Seperated at birth perhaps?

[Faulty Logic]

:) I'm pretty sure I'm aware of girly problems, and that's not it. Thanks though.

Butch...snacks at 4 am is really strange. :p

You'd be surprised what some girls dont know...


and Oreos at 4 in the morning are wayyy better than at any other time.

[KBHoleN1]

I haven't gotten more than 3 consecutive hours of sleep in months. I'm on anti-depressants, which make me drowsy all day long, but I can't actually fall asleep. When I do sleep, it's very light, and I wake up frequently, often following very strange, disturbing dreams. I miss actually sleeping through the night ... or even half the night.

[DOCTOR DEVICE]

screw one "aid" just get the full blown thing.

you'll sleep for a while... ;)

[shurtugal]

I can't remember the last time i slept through the night. I get dog tired around 9 -10 and am in bed by 11. But I always wake up, like clock work, at around 4 AM to go to the bathroom and get a snack. Then I go back to bed. Usually i only open one eye to do this.

I'm strange..

Try having pasta as supper or a late supper, if you don't wanna wake up.
But a cold, large glass of milk at like 4 or 5 am is just...underscribable.

[The Butcher]

http://www.denverbreaktime.com/catalog/images/YOOHOO2.jpg + http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/buttney_new/nutterbutter_small.jpg

Is the best late night snack.

[I'malive24/7]

Stop making me look at milk.

For some reason, for the past 2/3 days, I've been thirsty CONSTANTLY. I've been drinking almost nonstop, but it just makes me more thirsty.

I already drink like a half gallon of milk a day, so now I'm powering through the stuff like it's my job.

[Merdoc.]

take 3 sleeping pills, masturbate, smoke some weed, 10 min later your out cold. :cool:

[Jeffery]

Stop making me look at milk.

For some reason, for the past 2/3 days, I've been thirsty CONSTANTLY. I've been drinking almost nonstop, but it just makes me more thirsty.

I already drink like a half gallon of milk a day, so now I'm powering through the stuff like it's my job.
You need some salt. I would suggest doing a double shot of pickle juice.

[houckeah]

I've been googling a lot of the things suggested. There are a lot of things I'm gonna try... but evidently you guys are right... there is no substitute for a solid schedule.

[Liquid Swordsman]

Pot can really help. I know you've said you don't like the stuff, though.

[Lord Shinok]

You need some salt. I would suggest doing a double shot of pickle juice.

Meh, I miss drinking pickle juice. Last time I drank it was nearly a jar worth, and I ended up getting really sick for a day and half. It was horrible. I thought I was going to die. I never drank pickle juice ever since.

[Jeffery]

See, thats abusing it.

Just a shot is enough to up your sodium enough to help keep you hydrated.

[Snowolf]

Sleep with a girl... wait that might keep you awake.


Everytime I look on AIM your status is "ZzZzZzZz" I might be dumb, but I thing that at least stands for sleep. Anyways, no sleep = bad... Work out before going to bed.