Serge goes West. ..maybe.

[Serge]

Okay. So, I'm sick of living in Northern Virginia. It sucks here. The cost of living is too high, the people are the scum of the earth, and the traffic here is literally the third worst in the entire country. Honestly, rush hour headed away from D.C. starts at about 3 PM on a Monday and about noon on a Friday. I can't take it anymore.

So we're thinking about just packing our bags and getting tfo. Our oddly picked ideal location is Washington state. I know a bunch of you guys are from the Pacific Northwest and I was wondering if you could give me any information/advice about moving there. Like, will we be able to get a job there? (We both have about 2yrs experience as asst. managers of retail shoe stores, no joke...)

What's the cost of living like?

Also, I know the rain is bad, but it seems like temperature-wise the weather would be much better than here. Lower high temps in the summer; higher low temps in the winter. Is this true?

Lastly, is it as awesome as we decided it is? Are the people nicer up there 3,000 miles away from the hell-hole we call the capital of this country?

[Maverik07]

Err... Seattle is the leader in suicides?

Come to Cali. Great weather, great beezies and good Mexican food.

[KickAssPlaya]

Move to FL.

Low cost of living. Lower pay..equal to that of cost of living up north.
Hott all year round. (sometimes gets to 30s in winter)
In the summer you have high chance of atleast seeing one hurricane!
We have disney world.
ummm..and most importantly we have hulky?

:huh:

[Maverik07]

Florida is disgusting. So much humidity. I would die.

Oh, Disneyland > Disneyworld.

[Wizzy`]

Oh, Disneyland > Disneyworld.

You're uh..joking, right?

[Maverik07]

Have you been to both?

[Wizzy`]

I don't think I need to go to both. Disney world is enough.

[Maverik07]

Hmmm, ive only been to Disneyland, but everybody i know who has been to both has said Disneyland is much better.

[KickAssPlaya]

Have you been to both?

Have you? Disney World is definately better! (I haven't been to both, but that's what everyone tells me[ i work at DW])

And I agree with you on the humidity here..that sucks. Got to love waking up at 6 AM and going to your car and your already sweating! :rolleyes:

[Mithrandir]

I've been to both. DW > DL.

[Wizzy`]

Disney World is epic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bY75hnNzyk

Disney what?

[Snowolf]

West Virginia FTW.

[Serge]

Um, no thanks to California. It's hot there, I don't like hot. If it's too hot for me in VA it's way too hot in CA I'm sure. Also, the cost of living is even worse in CA if I'm not mistaken. And to FL, no thanks for most of the same reasons.

[Jeffery]

Okay. So, I'm sick of living in Northern Virginia. It sucks here. The cost of living is too high, the people are the scum of the earth, and the traffic here is literally the third worst in the entire country. Honestly, rush hour headed away from D.C. starts at about 3 PM on a Monday and about noon on a Friday. I can't take it anymore.

So we're thinking about just packing our bags and getting tfo. Our oddly picked ideal location is Washington state. I know a bunch of you guys are from the Pacific Northwest and I was wondering if you could give me any information/advice about moving there. Like, will we be able to get a job there? (We both have about 2yrs experience as asst. managers of retail shoe stores, no joke...)

What's the cost of living like?

Also, I know the rain is bad, but it seems like temperature-wise the weather would be much better than here. Lower high temps in the summer; higher low temps in the winter. Is this true?

Lastly, is it as awesome as we decided it is? Are the people nicer up there 3,000 miles away from the hell-hole we call the capital of this country?
I can find you a house to buy for $500 a month. It's in Podunk Ohio though.

[Nightmarez]

Well... I live in Indiana... I bike on the most popular street. Meh better then Omaha, the pride of Omaha's entertainment is a zoo and occasional baseball tournaments.

[Serge]

I can find you a house to buy for $500 a month. It's in Podunk Ohio though.
No thanks. I've already got my dad and his half-brother e-mailing me amazing deals from Podunk, Pennsylvania.

[Wizzy`]

Um, no thanks to California. It's hot there, I don't like hot. If it's too hot for me in VA it's way too hot in CA I'm sure. Also, the cost of living is even worse in CA if I'm not mistaken. And to FL, no thanks for most of the same reasons.

Move to nebraska.


Or the Pocono's

[Maverik07]

It can get hot in CA, but in general the weather stays around a cool 75ish.

[Tama Drummer]

I thought VA had a cheap cost of living? Er, that's what I was told. Then again, his idea of "cost of living" was probably just based on the fact that cigarettes are cheaper in VA than here in PA. :dry:

Anyway, if I went west, I'd shoot for Colorado. Good skiing.



It can get hot in CA, but in general the weather stays around a cool 75ish.

cool? that's too hot. coooooold is where it's at. Dumb summer. :mad:

[Maverik07]

Well, i hate the cold, so 75 is very nice. Although, its pushing past 100 this week :( Funning around for 6 hours outside in the sun in 100 degree weather = no fun.

[Zander]

Okay. So, I'm sick of living in Northern Virginia. It sucks here. The cost of living is too high, the people are the scum of the earth, and the traffic here is literally the third worst in the entire country. Honestly, rush hour headed away from D.C. starts at about 3 PM on a Monday and about noon on a Friday. I can't take it anymore.

So we're thinking about just packing our bags and getting tfo. Our oddly picked ideal location is Washington state. I know a bunch of you guys are from the Pacific Northwest and I was wondering if you could give me any information/advice about moving there. Like, will we be able to get a job there? (We both have about 2yrs experience as asst. managers of retail shoe stores, no joke...)

What's the cost of living like?

Also, I know the rain is bad, but it seems like temperature-wise the weather would be much better than here. Lower high temps in the summer; higher low temps in the winter. Is this true?

Lastly, is it as awesome as we decided it is? Are the people nicer up there 3,000 miles away from the hell-hole we call the capital of this country?
Umm, DC's in washington... duh.

[Hugh Junit]

You'll love it in Washington, Serg. It's a great place to live.
Beautiful state with lots to do, and Seattle is a terrific city. As far as getting jobs, reports show that western Washington has actually done pretty well compared to most states in the struggling economy. I don't know.
We don't get tornadoes or hurricanes or 4 feet of snow. We don't have unbearable heatwaves or 115 degree summers or humidity that makes you feel like you're always in a sauna. It never gets too hot or too cold, and the summers are really nice, though short.
But it does rain a lot.
A lot. Like 8 months out of the year.
They don't call it The Evergreen State for nothing.
You'll get used to it. Everyone does, except the people who kill themselves.
:)

[Blexican]

Texas :cool:

were pro.

[Serge]

or humidity that makes you feel like you're always in a sauna.

This. I know Virginia isn't like...Georgia or anything. But we could put up a fight for being called the ball sweat state.


Thanks for the reassurance. We're most worried about the job market. It's just such a bad time to quit your job right now for people like us.

[Snowolf]

I can find you a house to buy for $500 a month. It's in Podunk Ohio though.

o.O Podunk.

[Teacher]

Umm, DC's in washington... duh.

Just smack yourself.

[Mithrandir]

Umm, DC's in washington... duh.

Tell me you don't mean that Washington DC is in Washington state, because they aren't even close.

[BaxVarlet]

Oddly enough I'm looking to move up to NoVA/DC metro area. I'll replace you!

[Liquid Swordsman]

Come to New England :cool:

[I'malive24/7]

Come to New England :cool:

This.

Anywhere in New England is fine, really.

[Liquid Swordsman]

If you like the city, Boston, New York, etc. If you like scenic places - Vermont, Maine, etc. You can't go wrong :cool:

Though the cost of living is pretty high, in my area anyway. My house in another town would probably cost $30,000 less.

[I'malive24/7]

The cost of living is pretty cheap around where I am in Maine.

btw, LS, New York isn't in NE.

[Liquid Swordsman]

I know. I just didn't want to list Boston as the only city lol. Woonsocket, RI is a city I guess.

[I'malive24/7]

Providence is a decent city.

[meat.eater]

Northwest for the win!
Your best bet is to move to western/southern Washington or Portland, Oregon. The rest of Oregon's economy aside from Portland is in the can right now. Portland, however, is one of the best places to live in the world. It actually rains significantly less than Seattle (just 4 hours north).

The other bright side of Oregon is that our minimum wage is 8.40 right now and Washington's is 8.55. Oregon also has no sales tax (income tax is high, though--I'd rather have sales tax). A manager position makes about 10 bucks (which is what I'm making) an hour. Obviously, it's more expensive to live here than it is to live in the south or something, so we have a higher MW, but I doubt it's more expensive than living in DC.

Most of the people that I know who have moved to the Northwest (from anywhere from just south in California, to across the country in New Hampshire) have said it is the best place they have ever lived.

[Punishment]

Come to California.

The ladies are amazing. The pokemon battles are more epic. Weather is nice. Unfortunately the cost of living is also high in hte nice parts.

[Lex]

Oklahoma city's pretty well... fail DON'T come to Oklahoma, ever.

[ExpectDeath]

Oklahoma. Abbreviated OK.

OOOOk-lahoma, where the wind comes sweepin down the plain...

[Babyphat]

Where's the love for the places north of the boarder?!

I love montreal. Great night life, culture and interresting people. The living cost really depends on your location but for like a 4 1/2 it could go around 500$.
M. wage: 9$
we also have to biggest underground mall in the world! aahhzza!

[Wizzy`]

Where's the love for the places north of the boarder?!

I love montreal. Great night life, culture and interresting people. The living cost really depends on your location but for like a 4 1/2 it could go around 500$.
M. wage: 9$
we also have to biggest underground mall in the world! aahhzza!

wait.


4 1/2?

4 bedrooms half a bathroom? 4 1/2 bedrooms..? O_o

im so confused.

[KickAssPlaya]

Come to New England :cool:

This.

Anywhere in New England is fine, really.

NE ftw!

I have lived in New Hamshire and Mass. :cool:

[Babyphat]

wait.


4 1/2?

4 bedrooms half a bathroom? 4 1/2 bedrooms..? O_o

im so confused.

Uh, it means 4 rooms and a bathroom. So two bedrooms, kitchen, livingroom.

[Jeffery]

Uh, it means 4 rooms and a bathroom. So two bedrooms, kitchen, livingroom.
People usually refer to houses by the number of bedrooms/bathrooms. 2 bed 1 bath.

The house I am currently living in is being bought by a friend.He's paying $415 a month on land contract with a realtor, and it's a 3 bed, 1 1/2 bath,with Kitchen, Dining Room, Utility Roomand2living rooms. And we will be turning the carport into another bedroom and an office.
I actually live in the fully finished basement, which can be considered an efficiency apartment on it's own.

[Babyphat]

$415

Wow. But is that town worth living in..
It's all relative I suppose

**Not to forget the canadien/american currency rate!**

[Coffin Fedder]

Washington isn't a bad place to live, I'd much rather live in Portland though.

[meat.eater]

I have a 3b1b that costs 1250 bucks a month.... split three ways, it isnt bad.

[Babyphat]

I have a 3b1b that costs 1250 bucks a month.... split three ways, it isnt bad.

That place better look like a freaken castle or have an awesome location because that's expensive!
I pay 800$ for a 7 1/2 with basement not heated split 3 way..
I'm moving tomorow though..

Edit: I take it back it's not that bad ..

[Serge]

Oddly enough I'm looking to move up to NoVA/DC metro area. I'll replace you!

Why? No, I'm kidding. What do you do? If you're a big shot this area is actually pretty awesome. My brother in law makes big bucks as a programmer or something and he's got a sweet house in a nice neighborhood and he can bike to work. I, however, sell shoes.


Also, meat. $10 / hr is slightly less than what I make now, but it's a good chunk less than what my wife makes (that's right, she makes more than me). What's the cost of a decent apartment in Portland? Cause looking in Seattle they seem to be about the same as here.

[Hugh Junit]

You don't have to live in Seattle, Serg. There are plenty of affordable areas within commuting distance of the city.
But you don't have to live or work in Seattle. I live about 30 miles north of Seattle in Everett ( Boeing ) and commute South, like LOTS of people do. There are plenty of places to work and live in the Seattle area. Don't let housing prices in the actualy city scare you off.

[I'malive24/7]

I have a 3b1b that costs 1250 bucks a month.... split three ways, it isnt bad.

That's a lot compared to around here in maine.

My friend's mom pays $1000 a month for a 3b2b on a freaking lake.

[R G]

For what it's worth there was a magazine article in the July 09 edition of Kiplingers that has a good article about places to live. One of the top priorites in picking the list were unemployment rate, income growth, cost of living index, median household income, and percentage of workforce in creative class.

Here is the top ten list:

1-Huntsville Alabama lowest cost of living index
2-Albuquerque, NM
3-Washington, DC - Kind of ironic considering you want to leave - Highest median household income on the list
4-Charlottesville, VA - lowest unemployment rate on the list
5-Athens, GA - highest income growth - lowest median household income on the list
6-Olympia, WA -highest cost of living index - a close second for the highest unemployment rate at 8.3% unemployed
7-Madison, WI
8-Austin, TX
9-Flagstaff, AZ
10-Raleigh, NC -lowest income growth - highest unemployment rate on the list


Found the article on line

http://www.kiplinger.com/tools/slideshows/slideshow_pop.html?nm=BestCities2009

[Zander]

Tell me you don't mean that Washington DC is in Washington state, because they aren't even close.
Why else would it be called Washington DC?bt.

[Jeffery]

Why else would it be called Washington DC?bt.
Because George Washington was the first president,and the Capitol was named after him.

DC in Washington DC stands for District of Columbia.

[Merdoc.]

West coast best coast

[Zander]

Because George Washington was the first president,and the Capitol was named after him.

DC in Washington DC stands for District of Columbia.
Washington's district of columbia, in washington!plz note the bt?

[Maverik07]

That's a lot compared to around here in maine.

My friend's mom pays $1000 a month for a 3b2b on a freaking lake.

Thats because no one would ever want to live in Maine. Theres nothing there.

[Jeffery]

Thats because no one would ever want to live in Maine. Theres nothing there.
Lobsters and Maple Syrup.

[Maverik07]

Isnt Maple Syrup a Vermont thing?

I guess i cant argue about the Lobster, even though i dont particularly care for Lobster. Its too fishy for me.

[Punishment]

I have a 3b1b that costs 1250 bucks a month.... split three ways, it isnt bad.

Sharing a bathroom with 2 other dudes though? Yikes.

Thats because no one would ever want to live in Maine. Theres nothing there.

Living in OC it's hard for me to move out because everywhere is so god damn expensive to rent.
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/search/apa?query=irvine&minAsk=min&maxAsk=max&bedrooms=

:(

[R G]

Isnt Maple Syrup a Vermont thing?

I guess i cant argue about the Lobster, even though i dont particularly care for Lobster. Its too fishy for me.


You never had good lobster then.

[Maverik07]

Sharing a bathroom with 2 other dudes though? Yikes.



Living in OC it's hard for me to move out because everywhere is so god damn expensive to rent.
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/search/apa?query=irvine&minAsk=min&maxAsk=max&bedrooms=

:(

I had a place you could have rented for $500 a month. Dont complain.

[meat.eater]

Also, meat. $10 / hr is slightly less than what I make now, but it's a good chunk less than what my wife makes (that's right, she makes more than me). What's the cost of a decent apartment in Portland? Cause looking in Seattle they seem to be about the same as here.

Living in Portland is cheaper than Seattle. Not by much, but by a little.
But, like Hugh said, if you go into the burbs instead of the downtown (lots of people live in Beaverton, Oregon or Tualatin, Oregon and commute to the city), it's pretty similar all across the northwest. A 2b1b apartment is quite economical. High end, nice apartments are maybe 750/m. 1b1b are as low as 600/m.

[Faulty Logic]

Okay. So, I'm sick of living in Northern Virginia. It sucks here. The cost of living is too high, the people are the scum of the earth, and the traffic here is literally the third worst in the entire country. Honestly, rush hour headed away from D.C. starts at about 3 PM on a Monday and about noon on a Friday. I can't take it anymore.

So we're thinking about just packing our bags and getting tfo. Our oddly picked ideal location is Washington state. I know a bunch of you guys are from the Pacific Northwest and I was wondering if you could give me any information/advice about moving there. Like, will we be able to get a job there? (We both have about 2yrs experience as asst. managers of retail shoe stores, no joke...)

What's the cost of living like?

Also, I know the rain is bad, but it seems like temperature-wise the weather would be much better than here. Lower high temps in the summer; higher low temps in the winter. Is this true?

Lastly, is it as awesome as we decided it is? Are the people nicer up there 3,000 miles away from the hell-hole we call the capital of this country?


Dude where the hell do you live.... I'm in alexandria I never knew anyone else from TAO lived here..... I happen to love it FYI..... living 2 minutes from old town and DC is a lot of fun.

[R G]

Serge,

You should try this website to compare.

http://www.bestplaces.net/COL/

Basically you compare two cities and it will tell you what salary you would need to live in the differnet city.

[blah__]

Theres tards where ever you go.... just stay where you are. I hate the west side and really want to go east because everyones a fruit out here. In Colorado there is hardly any black people. One time I was at a golden corral and a waiter was like "What do you want to drink? We have grape soda.." No joke.

Everyones a dip shit fruit out here. Stay east.

[R G]

Theres tards where ever you go.... just stay where you are. I hate the west side and really want to go east because everyones a fruit out here. In Colorado there is hardly any black people. One time I was at a golden corral and a waiter was like "What do you want to drink? We have grape soda.." No joke.

Everyones a dip shit fruit out here. Stay east.


Guess he could have been more insulting, like telling you the watermelon is over there, or some other horsesheot comment.

Seriously what did you say to him when he said that?....The funny thing about it is everyone has this idea that the south has all the racists....nothing is further than the truth....there are racists everywhere.