Name your top 10...

[Angelic-Hotfox]

I sort of got the idea for this thread from Puni's "Save Humanity" thread and from the 2009 TAO Voting thread as well. I don't know if there is a thread out there like this already but I did search but im not every good at searching (lol) so sorry if this has already been made.

Anyways I would like people to list their...

- Top 10 most influential people of all time

&

- Top 10 Greatest athletes of all time

Just curious as to who people list. (This isn't for a school project I swear :] )

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My list:

Top 10 most influential:

1) Alexander the Great
2) George Washington
3) Martin Luther King Jr.
4) Ghandi
5) Mother Teresa
6) Neil Armstrong
7) Henry Ford
8) Eleanor Roosevelt
9) Charles Darwin
10) Barack Obama

Top 10 greatest athletes:

1) Roger Federer
2) Michael Jordan
3) Lance Armstrong
4) Joe Montana
5) Tiger Woods
6) Babe Ruth
7) Kobe Bryant
8) Michael Phelps
9) Wayne Gretzky
10) Pele

[I MaFiA I]

I sort of got the idea for this thread from Puni's "Save Humanity" thread and from the 2009 TAO Voting thread as well. I don't know if there is a thread out there like this already but I did search but im not every good at searching (lol) so sorry if this has already been made.

Anyways I would like people to list their...

- Top 10 most influential people of all time

&

- Top 10 Greatest athletes of all time

Just curious as to who people list. (This isn't for a school project I swear :] )

---

My list:

Top 10 most influential:

1) Alexander the Great
2) George Washington
3) Martin Luther King Jr.
4) Ghandi
5) Mother Teresa
6) Neil Armstrong
7) Henry Ford
8) Eleanor Roosevelt
9) Charles Darwin
10) Barack Obama

Top 10 greatest athletes:

1) Roger Federer
2) Michael Jordan
3) Lance Armstrong
4) Joe Montana
5) Tiger Woods
6) Babe Ruth
7) Kobe Bryant
8) Michael Phelps
9) Wayne Gretzky
10) Pele


No Adolf Hitler for the first category? No Arnold in the second?

You have failed.

[T Solo]

Obama? Top ten of all time? hehehe.

[Kyir]

This thread hurts my brain.

[ScytheMan]

Top 10 most influential:

1) Jesus(It doesn't matter whether you are Christian or not)
2) Christopher Colombus
3) Muhammed(See Jesus)
4) Einstein
5) Newton
6) Gutenburg
7) Aristotle
8) Buddha(See Jesus)
9) Galileo
10) Euclid

Top 10 greatest athletes:

1) Jim Thorpe
2) Mariusz Pudzianowski

Edit: Obama top 10 is laughable. Also, Arnold in top 10 athletes? Mafia, I'm sorry but that's just ridiculous.

[The Anti]

Influential People:
Christopher Columbus
Sir Isaac Newton
Jesus Christ
Martin Luther
Johannes Gutenberg
Ghandi
Galileo
Muhammad
George Washington
Adolf Hitler

Greatest Athletes:
Michael Jordan
Brett Favre
Tiger Woods
Jackie Robinson
Lance Armstrong
Muhammad Ali
Wilt Chamberlain
Wayne Gretzky
Jim Brown
Babe Ruth

[I MaFiA I]

Also, Arnold in top 10 athletes? Mafia, I'm sorry but that's just ridiculous.

Either you are ignorant in the sport of bodybuilding or you are just unaware of how amazing he was in his prime. Or both. Either way, don't call it ridiculous simply because you are unaware.

I also noticed you didn't put Hitler in your list. I hope you realize putting him in your list doesn't mean you agree with what he stood for, it just shows you have the ability to execute logical reasoning.

[Ryzen]

Either you are ignorant in the sport of bodybuilding or you are just unaware of how amazing he was in his prime. Or both. Either way, don't call it ridiculous simply because you are unaware.

I also noticed you didn't put Hitler in your list. I hope you realize putting him in your list doesn't mean you agree with what he stood for, it just shows you have the ability to execute logical reasoning.

If he doesn't think Arnold and Hitler was influential then why should you care? Seriously, its who they think is influential..

[Kyir]

Either you are ignorant in the sport of bodybuilding

I don't enjoy resorting to images, but I hope this can convey my facial expression when I hear people say that bodybuilding is a sport.
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9923/1247276589628.png

[I MaFiA I]

If he doesn't think Arnold and Hitler was influential then why should you care? Seriously, its who they think is influential..
I wasn't saying Arnold in the influentual category, I was putting him in athletes. Also, denying Hitler's level of influentualness (lol is that a word) is just being ignorant.

brb im about to single-handedly brainwash people to believe mass genocide is perfectly dandy and prepare an army of Nazis to fight at my disposal.

I don't enjoy resorting to images, but I hope this can convey my facial expression when I hear people say that bodybuilding is a sport.
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9923/1247276589628.png

u mad brah?

[Kyir]

u mad brah?

I prefer to think of it as a glare of utter disdain.

But mad works too I guess.

[Ryzen]

I wasn't saying Arnold in the influentual category, I was putting him in athletes, genius. Also, denying Hitler's level of influentualness (lol is that a word) is just being ignorant.



Im sorry I put him in the influential cat. me so sorry :(

[I MaFiA I]

I prefer to think of it as a glare of utter disdain.

But mad works too I guess.

Just curious, what's your height and weight? If you don't mind me asking of course.

No e-stats please.

[Kyir]

Just curious, what's your height and weight? If you don't mind me asking of course.

No e-stats please.

6'1 and 173. Not at all relevant to considering something a sport, but cool story.

Also, Hitler was a 2-bit villain on the level of Sephiroth.

Discuss.

[I MaFiA I]

6'1 and 173. Not at all relevant to considering something a sport, but cool story.

Also, Hitler was a 2-bit villain on the level of Sephiroth.

Discuss.

I never said it had anything to do with anything, but good job assuming broskin. I'm 5'10 175 by the way.

Also, I disagree.

Discuss.

[Kyir]

I never said it had anything to do with anything, but good job assuming broskin. I'm 5'10 175 by the way.

Also, I disagree.

Discuss.

How is killing people influential?

He rose to power in an environment where anyone or their mom could have, and then used it in the most heavy handed and obtuse way possible.

The only thing he accomplished in the long run is uniting the rest of the world against him.

EDIT: Which is not significant. At all.

I could do that now by claiming that the Holocaust never happened. OH WOW GUYS I CAN BE INFLUENTIAL TOO.

[Ryzen]

Qft ^

[Kyir]

Qft ^

You're really contributing to this discussion there.

[ScytheMan]

Either you are ignorant in the sport of bodybuilding or you are just unaware of how amazing he was in his prime. Or both. Either way, don't call it ridiculous simply because you are unaware.

I also noticed you didn't put Hitler in your list. I hope you realize putting him in your list doesn't mean you agree with what he stood for, it just shows you have the ability to execute logical reasoning.

I do not consider bodybuilding a sport. It is a competition at best. Either way Mariusz would kick his @$$ 6 ways to Sunday.

Hitler would probably be in my top 20-30. We have already discussed Hitler I believe. Having read more about him recently though has made me question whether or not it was just sheer luck he ended up in the position he was in. He really wasn't as smart as I thought.

[Ryzen]

You're really contributing to this discussion there.

Well, basically what you said is what I felt about Hitler, I do not see him as an influential person.

[007 GOD]

No Adolf Hitler for the first category? No Arnold in the second?

You have failed.

Last time I checked, it was an opinion thread.

Second, I don't know of anyone who considers bodybuilding a sport. Why would Arnold make the top 10 athletes? What amazing accomplishments does he own?


You have failed.

[Terps rock]

Last time I checked, it was an opinion thread.

Second, I don't know of anyone who considers bodybuilding a sport. Why would Arnold make the top 10 athletes? What amazing accomplishments does he own?


You have failed.

He won Mr. Olympia 6 times in a row and then decided to quit. But came back a few years later and won it one more time.

[I MaFiA I]

How is killing people influential?

He rose to power in an environment where anyone or their mom could have, and then used it in the most heavy handed and obtuse way possible.

The only thing he accomplished in the long run is uniting the rest of the world against him.

Kyir, if anyone "or their mom" could have rose to power, why didn't they? I'd seriously like to see YOU be the cause of over 6 million deaths.

And to answer your question, killing people is influentual when you build an army of minions to do the deeds for you.

I do not consider bodybuilding a sport.


It really doesn't matter if you consider it a sport, because, it is. It's like saying you don't consider McDonald's a restaurant. I don't believe Texas Hold 'Em should be a sport, that doesn't mean it isn't one.

There is a huge difference between having an opinion and calling facts wrong.

He won Mr. Olympia 6 times in a row and then decided to quit. But came back a few years later and won it one more time.

My faith in TAO has been restored.

[Terps rock]

Kyir, if anyone "or their mom" could have rose to power, why didn't they? I'd seriously like to see be the cause of over 6 million deaths.

And to answer your question, killing people is influentual when you build an army of minions to do the deeds for you.



My faith in TAO has been restored.

Pumping Iron is such a great movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO0w23lcBng&feature=related

[I MaFiA I]

Pumping Iron is such a great movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO0w23lcBng&feature=related

God, that man is alpha. Arnold > Chuck any and every day of the week.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u41/klearshadow/arnold.jpg

Aesthetically spectacular.

[Rubbish]

Top 10 Most Influential

1. Jesus Christ
2. Aristotle
3. Newton
4. Darwin
5. Gutenberg
6. Colombus
7. Ghandi
8. Einstein
9. Hitler
10. Mandela
...........
11. Michael Jackson (had to somewhat include him here, a tribute to the one and only MJ :p)

Top 10 Greatest Athletes

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Pele
3. Lance Armstrong
4. Michael Jordan
5. Tiger Woods
6. Roger Federer
7. Babe Ruth
8. Michael Phelps
9. Carl Lewis
10. Hussain Bolt

[Kyir]

Kyir, if anyone "or their mom" could have rose to power, why didn't they? I'd seriously like to see YOU be the cause of over 6 million deaths.

And to answer your question, killing people is influentual when you build an army of minions to do the deeds for you.


Because, to use a phrase which I hold very dear to my heart, there can be only one.

The army of millions was motivated by a combination of fear and brainwashing.

With the army, he should have been able to win?

Why didn't he? Because he was a lunatic with more charisma than brains.

[I MaFiA I]

Because, to use a phrase which I hold very dear to my heart, there can be only one.

The army of millions was motivated by a combination of fear and brainwashing.

With the army, he should have been able to win?

Why didn't he? Because he was a lunatic with more charisma than brains.

Nobody was actually "brainwashed", now you're just spewing bullshat out of your mouth. However, they were influenced.

Hmm...

[bdog1321]

Greatest athletes: Tony Romox10

Most influential: George Bushx10

[I MaFiA I]

Greatest athletes: Tony Romox10

Most influential: George Bushx10

This.
"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to bdog1321 again."

Damn the system.

[Blexican]

I wasn't saying Arnold in the influentual category, I was putting him in athletes.



He used steroids. I hardly see that as athletic. Regardless of his own size,workouts, steroids were involved thus tainting whatever "amazing" he was.

Same with someone like Barry Bonds.

[I MaFiA I]

He used steroids. I hardly see that as athletic. Regardless of his own size,workouts, steroids were involved thus tainting whatever "amazing" he was.

Same with someone like Barry Bonds.

Which is why they have pro bodybuilding competitions, and natural pro bodybuilding competitions. It's all within the same sport.

When something amazing is acheived, it's still amazing, even with the help of steroids. Uninformed people such as yourself who know nothing about steroids shouldn't be allowed to speak on the subject until after they have gained knowledge on what is being argued.

With that said, let me leave you with another picture of an amazing body from a person who used steroids. It isn't even possible to attain a body like this without the use of steroids.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh199/BIG_ROD01/UlissesJr-BeautifulBruthawithLox2.jpg

[Lord Kalamady]

[B]Edit: Obama top 10 is laughable.

First black president of a country that was built with African slaves is laughable? Sounds pretty influential to me.

[Blexican]

Which is why they have pro bodybuilding competitions, and natural pro bodybuilding competitions. It's all within the same sport.

When something amazing is acheived, it's still amazing, even with the help of steroids. Uninformed people such as yourself who know nothing about steroids shouldn't be allowed to speak on the subject until after they have gained knowledge on what is being argued.

With that said, let me leave you with another picture of an amazing body from a person who used steroids. It isn't even possible to attain a body like this without the use of steroids.



Bodybuilding is impressive to some, yet absurd to others. I don't see it as a sport, but someone like you may and thats ok.

Steroids used in competitions is unforgivable in my standpoint. Any competition even if its legal. Pro sports are for athletes to use and display there unique talents to win. Any kind of taint would therefore unbalance the competition.

We are all built generally different. The ones with an outstanding athletic ability and workout will succeed. Those who do not possess extreme athletic ability by genetics will not make it into most pro sports. Its a combination of hardwork, and natural born talent.

Using steroids are for those looking to gain an unfair advantage (or to catch up to those who are ahead of them by hard work or genetics).

[Rubbish]

Why are we posting pictures of almost naked men in this thread? Is it just to entertain Kyir? Or is there a reason I'm not aware of?

[Blexican]

It was apparently some way to make a point. It didn't work.

[I MaFiA I]

Bodybuilding is impressive to some, yet absurd to others. I don't see it as a sport, but someone like you may and thats ok.

Steroids used in competitions is unforgivable in my standpoint. Any competition even if its legal. Pro sports are for athletes to use and display there unique talents to win. Any kind of taint would therefore unbalance the competition.

We are all built generally different. The ones with an outstanding athletic ability and workout will succeed. Those who do not possess extreme athletic ability by genetics will not make it into most pro sports. Its a combination of hardwork, and natural born talent.

Using steroids are for those looking to gain an unfair advantage (or to catch up to those who are ahead of them by hard work or genetics).
Every human has genetic limits. The limits are there to stop you from naturally getting bigger. When that happens, I see nothing wrong with getting on 'roids. It pushes you farther than where you naturally could not go. With that said, someone who has not met there genetic limit and went on 'roids would not look as good as someone who hit their limit, and pushed forward. That is the point I'm making, and apparently that is also what sponsored professional bodybuilding competitions believe also, which makes the use of steroids legal.

Keep in mind I'm using this argument for bodybuilding and bodybuilding alone, no other sport.
Why are we posting pictures of almost naked men in this thread? Is it just to entertain Kyir? Or is there a reason I'm not aware of?
Kyir is really gay? I was unaware. And no, I was posting them to show the men's bodies and how amazing they look. Any man secure with his sexuality should be able look at another man's body and not feel uncomfortable. If you are looking at the body in a sexual way, then that's your business.

[-The Shredder-]

I felt compelled to post again after reading this...

Stop being dumb... Of course bodybuilding is a sport!

Most of you couldn't stay determined enough to lift weights for even a month. Yet, these men (and disgusting women...) have been doing it for 15+ YEARS...

Its all about being symmetrical and evenly proportioned. Which is EXTREMELY hard to do. Everyone one of us is NOT symmetrical or evenly proportioned to our size and wieght.

They spend years eating healthy food with strict diets that taste like crap to get the body that they have....

They work there asses off in the gym almost everyday of the week.

Steriods or not... that is amazing...

I challenge anyone of you... Go take steriods if you want... It will still take a ridiculously long time to get that buff.

Steroids dont make an athlete into an athlete...

Arnold is definetly and influence and inspiration to MILLIONS of people around the world for his amazing body... and back in his days it was perfectly fine to use steriods.

[Kyir]

Kyir is really gay? I was unaware.

I certainly claim I am enough that it could be true.


Stop being dumb... Of course bodybuilding is a sport!


No.

This really isn't up for debate.

If being dedicated made something a sport, does that make quantum physics one?

[Lex]

Wizzy for both categories.

[Blexican]

If being dedicated made something a sport, does that make quantum physics one?

That all depends. Do you take steroids for quantum physics?

[Kyir]

That all depends. Do you take steroids for quantum physics?

You could man.

You could.

[Angelic-Hotfox]

First black president of a country that was built with African slaves is laughable? Sounds pretty influential to me.

yup yup

Top 10 Most Influential

1. Jesus Christ
2. Aristotle
3. Newton
4. Darwin
5. Gutenberg
6. Colombus
7. Ghandi
8. Einstein
9. Hitler
10. Mandela
...........
11. Michael Jackson (had to somewhat include him here, a tribute to the one and only MJ :p)

Top 10 Greatest Athletes

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Pele
3. Lance Armstrong
4. Michael Jordan
5. Tiger Woods
6. Roger Federer
7. Babe Ruth
8. Michael Phelps
9. Carl Lewis
10. Hussain Bolt

ah I forgot Ali! who's the better boxer of all time Ali or Tyson?

and Bolt...everytime I hear his name I just think of that gatorade "quest for g" commercial where its just his giant head on small legs haha

[Enjoi]

First black president of a country that was built with African slaves is laughable? Sounds pretty influential to me.

If by influential, you mean a president who has spent more money than all presidents combined plunging the dead American economy deeper into the the grave. Then yes, he's been very influential.

[Lord Kalamady]

If by influential, you mean a president who has spent more money than all presidents combined plunging the dead American economy deeper into the the grave. Then yes, he's been very influential.

I think any person, with the slightest amount of common sense, will say that Obama is an influential and inspirational person. Especially in the black culture. Without getting into a political debate on whether or not you agree with his policies, can you honestly say you don't see why he is considered influential?

[iceman2001]

Well, I have the slight advantage of seeing what other people put. Nonetheless:

Influential:
1) Jesus Christ
2) Mohammad
3) Aristotle
4) Karl Marx
5) Alexander the Great
6) George Washington
7) Ghandi
8) Darwin
9) Einstein
10) Oppenheimer (father of Atom bomb)

Sports:
1) Mohammad Ali
2) Michael Jordan
3) Michael Phelps
4) Pele
5) Lance Armstrong
6) Tiger Woods
7) Jim Brown
8) Lebron James (you knew it was coming)
9) Roger Federer
10) Michael Johnson

I was unaware. And no, I was posting them to show the men's bodies and how amazing they look. Any man secure with his sexuality should be able look at another man's body and not feel uncomfortable. If you are looking at the body in a sexual way, then that's your business.

I knew it was only a matter of time. Something about you always screamed "power bottem." Welcome to the exclusive openly gay tao club. Please take off your pants and enjoy our hot oil rub downs.

[I MaFiA I]

This really isn't up for debate.



You're absolutely right.

http://www.sportsci.org/news/news9803/hatfield.html

No matter how you define a sport, it falls into the definition.

I knew it was only a matter of time. Something about you always screamed "power bottem." Welcome to the exclusive openly gay tao club. Please take off your pants and enjoy our hot oil rub downs.

You disgust me. Which is ironic because I actually find you to be a pretty chill guy. Stop being so flamboyant with your lust for penis (can I say penis?) and you'll be alright.

[iceman2001]

Say whatever you like about my orientation. I was totally serious when I was talking about the hot oil rubdowns too- that's clearly what all gay people do.

Fact remains that I have NEVER said anything close to as "gay" in 2,269 posts as

"And no, I was posting them to show the men's bodies and how amazing they look"

[I MaFiA I]

Say whatever you like about my orientation. I was totally serious when I was talking about the hot oil rubdowns too- that's clearly what all gay people do.

Fact remains that I have NEVER said anything close to as "gay" in 2,269 posts as

"And no, I was posting them to show the men's bodies and how amazing they look"

I suppose that makes me, a guy that wants to become a personal trainer, gay, as opposed to the guy that licks and bounces on penis all night?

I guess I'm gay then.

[iceman2001]

lol. its 3 am here. If I was doing the activity you are suggesting WHILE posting, I'd say we have some larger issues at stake here than orientation. Let's also realise that being gay is not defined by actually doing a physical act between two people of the same sex. After all, many of you out there are virgins, you have not gone all the way with a woman. This does not mean you are not straight. Never in this forum have I disclosed what I've done physically with other guys, or if anything at all. What I've stated is simply my attraction.

As far as your goals in life, I don't really think they have anything to do with sexual orientation. I know plenty of personal trainers who are in fact gay. Just as I know doctors, lawyers, theater actors, and mechanics who are gay.

Just know that about 1 in 20 people you know are gay whether they admit it to you or not. Do yourself a favor some time- walk down the street some day and count off people. Is every 20th person wearing a pink blouse with leather chaps? My guess is no. The reality is that most gay people are just like normal people, with the same normal jobs, the same normal goals in life.

Of course there is a very vocal minority, but that does not represent the population as a whole. People see the gay pride parades in san fransisco and think that's what gay people are about. That would be like me seeing the KKK march and assume every white person in the south is like that.


Well anyway, I gotta get to bed. Have to go to my GIRLFRIENDS tomorrow morning. (feel free to imagine that encounter all you want mafia, sweet dreams)

[I MaFiA I]

*mindless blabbering*

I don't know what you're attempting to get at, I presume you're just drunk. I brought up that I was thinking about becoming a personal trainer to show that I have not lost my interest in exercising and lifting weights, and I can tell what an amazing body looks like on a man. I'm guessing you think that makes me gay for some reason, and I'm not too sure why. I'm not getting a boner when I see a man's chest; when I see a man with a nice looking chest I wonder in my mind how long it will take for me to get to that point. It's much different from looking at a woman. When looking at a woman I'm imagining my manhood in between their breasts, between their buttcheeks, etc, not imagining how long it will take me to get those killer biceps.

Or, you know, I could be making all this up just to cover up my homosexuality. Cuz I lovez teh cawk.

[Kyir]

You're absolutely right.

http://www.sportsci.org/news/news9803/hatfield.html

No matter how you define a sport, it falls into the definition.


To my eternal shame.

Trust me though, it will change.

Oh yes.


Just know that about 1 in 20 people you know are gay whether they admit it to you or not. Do yourself a favor some time- walk down the street some day and count off people. Is every 20th person wearing a pink blouse with leather chaps? My guess is no. The reality is that most gay people are just like normal people, with the same normal jobs, the same normal goals in life.


I would just like to point out that this is a common logical fallacy.

Each of these people could concievably be parts of different groups of 20, rendering predictions inaccurate.

[ScytheMan]

It really doesn't matter if you consider it a sport, because, it is. It's like saying you don't consider McDonald's a restaurant. I don't believe Texas Hold 'Em should be a sport, that doesn't mean it isn't one.

There is a huge difference between having an opinion and calling facts wrong.

I think we just need to change our definition of what a sport is. It is just too broad a term. Either way, Mariusz is IMO far more amazing than Arnold.
First black president of a country that was built with African slaves is laughable? Sounds pretty influential to me.

I don't care that he is black. I live in the 21st century, where th he is is not inconceivable. I mean why should it matter that he's black? He's an American is what he is, Americans have always been president of the USA. With the possible exception of the first few presidents if you are picky, but that's only technically.

[bdog1321]

Well, I have the slight advantage of seeing what other people put. Nonetheless:

Influential:
1) Jesus Christ
2) Mohammad
3) Aristotle
4) Karl Marx
5) Alexander the Great
6) George Washington
7) Ghandi
8) Darwin
9) Einstein
10) Oppenheimer (father of Atom bomb)


Why don't you have Pericles/Adam Smith on your list if you have Marx? You can't tell me communism has had more influence than democracy/capitalism. Aren't there like 5 commie countries?

@everyone else, why come you don't have Romo on your athletes list?

[Memory of Light]

obama isnt influential enough to be on a top ten list. that is what many people dont get. sure what he did was important, but top 10? hell no.

[trugreatness20]

Why is Christopher Columbus influential to people? He didnt do anything :/

[ExpectDeath]

Most Influential:

1. I Mafia I
2. serg
3. Jesus Christ
4. Ghandi
5. Mohammad
6. Budda
7. MLK Jr
8. The Butcher
9. Charles Darwin
10. Bill Nye

[The Anti]

Why is Christopher Columbus influential to people? He didnt do anything :/

Except like, ya know, be the first European to start settling the Americas. Nothing too serious though.

[Vonizuob]

how has bobby orr not made it yet

[ExpectDeath]

Because Lemieux and Gretzky both topped him.

[Wizzy`]

I'd like to know why some of these people are influential to you guys. You're just listing people without reason. Where's the discussion?

Or is this just a "Name the 10 most influential people you know of"? >_>

[A-99]

Except like, ya know, be the first European to start settling the Americas. Nothing too serious though.

Vikings.

[trugreatness20]

Except like, ya know, be the first European to start settling the Americas. Nothing too serious though.

Haha, people were here before Columbus and he wasnt the first European to settle the Americas. He just happened to stumble upon this continent and then proceeded to EDIT everything up. Just ask the Native Americans.

[bdog1321]

Haha, people were here before Columbus and he wasnt the first European to settle the Americas. He just happened to stumble upon this continent and then proceeded to fudged everything up. Just ask the Native Americans.

So we're a result of "everything being fudged up"?

[Wizzy`]

So we're a result of "everything being fudged up"?

We're the result of rebellion. Whoo!! It's in our blood.

[trugreatness20]

So we're a result of "everything being fudged up"?

Yes. We are the result of greedy Western expansion, which all stemmed from the European "exploration". I dont expect you to understand bdizzle is chill homie.

[bdog1321]

Yes. We are the result of greedy Western expansion, which all stemmed from the European "exploration". I dont expect you to understand bdizzle is chill homie.

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc269/bdog1321/moral-advisory-condescending-conten.png

May I add, fail. That's kind of the way things work. The stronger country usually takes what they want. I don't condone what happened to the Natives, but it's not like they owned the entire country. We didn't steal the entire continent from tribes of Indians who (I have no idea what the actual statistic is) probably lived on less than 1/3 of it. We did buy land from them straight; money and trading I mean. I wouldn't expect you to know the whole story. S'all good.
EDIT: It's spellt true, bud.

[bdog1321]

In addition, using your logic pretty much every existing country today is illegitimate. All of the land on the Earth was at some time owned by a different people, and taken at at least one time by force. So... What's your point?

[Rubbish]

I voted for Cristopher Columbus because his effect on the America's was humongous.

Do you think that the continent would be as westernized as it is today if Spain hadn't colonized us?

[trugreatness20]

No, but why is Western colonization so marvelous? Its that concept of greed that is ruining our country today.

[bdog1321]

No, but why is Western colonization so marvelous? Its that concept of greed that is ruining our country today.

What do you propose?

[Rubbish]

No, but why is Western colonization so marvelous? Its that concept of greed that is ruining our country today.
We are not discussing the top 10 most positively influential people, but those that had the greatest effect on our world (positive OR negative). Columbus, in my opinon, is defenetly one of the biggest contributors to the shape of our society today regardless of the positive or negative impact of his actions.

[trugreatness20]

Not a clue :/

Edit: oops that response was to the bdog, and rub you bring up a good point.

[Angelic-Hotfox]

Most Influential:

1. I Mafia I
2. serg
3. Jesus Christ
4. Ghandi
5. Mohammad
6. Budda
7. MLK Jr
8. The Butcher
9. Charles Darwin
10. Bill Nye

bahahahaha

[Kyir]

No, but why is Western colonization so marvelous? Its that concept of greed that is ruining our country today.

Greed is the foundation of our country.

[bdog1321]

I wouldn't say it's the foundation, but with capitalism there will always be winners and losers; it is written in the concept itself.

[Isaac-Z]

Most Influential ppl...:
1-Martin Lother King jr.
2-Ghandi
3-Galileo Galilei
4-Albert Einstein
5-Aristoteles
6-Isaac Newton
7-Madre Teresa De Calcuta
8-Augusta Ada
9-Nicolas Copernico
10-Simon Bolivar.

Greatest Athletes:
1-Michael Jordan
2-Mohamed Ali
3-"Mano de Piedra" Roberto Duran
4-Tiger Woods
5-Edson Arantes Do Nacimento "Pele"
6-Alfredo Di Estefano
7-Many Pacquiao
etc...

[Kyir]

I wouldn't say it's the foundation, but with capitalism there will always be winners and losers; it is written in the concept itself.

No.

Foundation.

[Rubbish]

The foundation of capitalism, as Smith wrote it, is the invisible hand which is esentially people's greed.

[bdog1321]

No.

Foundation.

Only sith deal in absolutes.

[Kyir]

Only sith deal in absolutes.

Or Internet Despots.

[bdog1321]

Or sith.

[meat.eater]

1. Muhammed
2. Jesus
3. Confucius
4. Ghandi
5. Marx
6. Hitler
7. Mao
8. Alexander the Great
9. Aristotle
10. Guttenburg
(Close to the top ten: Newton, Pasteur, Kahn, Einstein, Buddha, Luther (not King), Darwin, Freud, Neitzche, Jefferson... there's a ton).


1. Thorpe
2. Ali
3. Armstrong
4. M. Jordan
5. Pele
6. Prefontaine
7. B. Jackson
8. Didrickson
9. Sugar Ray
10. Getzky
(Close: Jim Brown, Michael Phelps, Herschel Walker, Lou Gehrig, Wilt Chamberlain, Hank Aaron, Tiger Woods, Carl Lewis, maybe Edwin Moses)

[burnout-278]

1. Luca Blight
2. Sylar
3. Princess Powerful
4. Puzz
5. Sonic
6. Bruce Wayne
7. Dick Grayson
8. Deadpool
9. Nathan Summers (whoever knows this gets a gold star)
10. Ramza

[Punishment]

Many Pacquiao

That is SO dumb. He's not even the best ultimate fighter... and when he goes against Mayweather he is gonna get his ass handed to him. Mayweather is a smarter fighter, but he's not even close to the top 10...

Honestly, as much as i dislike him, I am surprised not everyone has Michael Phelps on the 10 greatest athletes of all time. He won 8 gold medals in a variety of strokes, a feat never accomplished before, and it will never happen again either. Something like 7 world records at the olympics too, i believe. I'd even consider Mark Spitz for the top 10 list because of his 7 gold medals back in the day.

[Lord Kalamady]

I think we just need to change our definition of what a sport is. It is just too broad a term. Either way, Mariusz is IMO far more amazing than Arnold.


I don't care that he is black. I live in the 21st century, where th he is is not inconceivable. I mean why should it matter that he's black? He's an American is what he is, Americans have always been president of the USA. With the possible exception of the first few presidents if you are picky, but that's only technically.

I guess some people are too ignorant to consider a man being the leader of this country, who not even a decade ago, would of been beaten, sold like merchandise and even killed just for the color of his skin. Yeah, this is the 21st century, but only an idiot could brush this mans accomplishment off like you just did.

[bdog1321]

I guess some people are too ignorant to consider a man being the leader of this country, who not even a decade ago, would of been beaten, sold like merchandise and even killed just for the color of his skin. Yeah, this is the 21st century, but only an idiot could brush this mans accomplishment off like you just did.

A decade ago? Maybe 5 or 6....

[The Anti]

Vikings.

Leif Ericson did discover America well before Columbus did, but didn't permanently settle it. That's the difference.

[ScytheMan]

I guess some people are too ignorant to consider a man being the leader of this country, who not even a decade ago, would of been beaten, sold like merchandise and even killed just for the color of his skin. Yeah, this is the 21st century, but only an idiot could brush this mans accomplishment off like you just did.

I'm not saying he didn't do something, being elected president is hard. Only 44 people have ever done it after all. However, his accomplishments pale in comparison to anyone on my list, especially when you realize 44 other people didn't do what people on my list did.

"But he's black!! Black men can't be president!"

I'm sorry you thought so. I didn't.

[Dresicos]

Hitler was a 2-bit villain on the level of Sephiroth.

<3

Thats definitly one of the best statements ever.

[trugreatness20]

No.

Foundation.

I wholeheartedly agree with you, i am just not sure you read my post clearly. Either that or i just didnt convey what i wanted to say with my one line answers. Indeed greed is the base of the country that is currently the US.

[Kyir]

I wholeheartedly agree with you, i am just not sure you read my post clearly. Either that or i just didnt convey what i wanted to say with my one line answers. Indeed greed is the base of the country that is currently the US.

Greed is really the foundation for everything, but I was trying to narrow in, you know?

[I MaFiA I]

Greed is really the foundation for everything

False.............

[Kyir]

False.............

I like how you used more periods than other characters.

[Dresicos]

Everybody does something because they want it, hence greed.

People may say they do something just for the hell of it but people also lie.

I hope this looks good becaues I am looking at my TV right now. >.>

[I MaFiA I]

I like how you used more periods than other characters.

I like how you're still wrong.
Everybody does something because they want it, hence greed.

People may say they do something just for the hell of it but people also lie.

I hope this looks good becaues I am looking at my TV right now. >.>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greed

That's not greed, dumbass.

[Dresicos]

Did I say I defined greed? I just pointed out what is greedy.
Next time you insult someone, don't. It only makes everyone's oh soooo wonderful view of you a little worse.

Dumbass.

Edit: On a side note I highly suggest you look at the site again.

[Enjoi]

LOL who edited wikipedia's definition of greed? It says Mafia is a dumbass lol.

[Dresicos]

Wiki is always right! Just ask Mafia! Thats where he gets his information!

[Kyir]

Wiki is always right! Just ask Mafia! Thats where he gets his information!

Looks pretty true to me.

[Dresicos]

Its gone already awwwww.

[Kyir]

Its gone already awwwww.

Wikipedia is serious business.

People like Mafia takes it very seriously.

It's serious.

[I MaFiA I]

Did I say I defined greed? I just pointed out what is greedy.
Next time you insult someone, don't. It only makes everyone's oh soooo wonderful view of you a little worse.

Dumbass.

Edit: On a side note I highly suggest you look at the site again.

So doing something because you want it is greedy? I suppose people that follow religion strictly because they believe in a supreme being are greedy? They want to go to church, they don't need church.

Greedy bastards.

[Kyir]

So doing something because you want it is greedy? I suppose people that follow religion strictly because they believe in a supreme being are greedy? They want to go to church, they don't need church.

Greedy bastards.

Humans are inherently base and brutal creatures.

Cool story, right?

[Dresicos]

You're finally getting it.

If you keep this up you may just join our "Mafias A Fucking Idiotic Aeolist" club.
We have jackets, real nice. Leather sleeves and all.

[Kyir]

You're finally getting it.

If you keep this up you may just join our "Mafias A Fucking Idiotic Aeolist" club.
We have jackets, real nice. Leather sleeves and all.

Leather chafes man.

Chafes bad.

[Dresicos]

Leather on the ouside - We have 3 different materials for the inside.

You're choice of...

Silk - For the hunnies
Fur - For the hunnies and Punishment
Cotten - For everyone else

[Angelic-Hotfox]

...you probably thought you were joking when you said there was a anti-Mafia club/group...no, its very real

http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/group.php?groupid=81

[Kyir]

Leather on the ouside - We have 3 different materials for the inside.

You're choice of...

Silk - For the hunnies
Fur - For the hunnies and Punishment
Cotten - For everyone else

Everything I wear is made out of human skin.

Sorry.

[Dresicos]

Ah. Sorry, gotta love that organ right?

[Kyir]

Ah. Sorry, gotta love that organ right?

Sure, why not?

[Dresicos]

It itches and more than enough people already have it. :( Makes me feel like mine is so following the trend.

[Kyir]

It itches and more than enough people already have it. :( Makes me feel like mine is so following the trend.

I have no clue what you're talking about.

My previous post was an attempt to stave off this awkwardness.

[I MaFiA I]

...you probably thought you were joking when you said there was a anti-Mafia club/group...no, its very real

http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/group.php?groupid=81

You want my penis don't you? It's okay, you can admit it.

[Dresicos]

I have no clue what you're talking about.

My previous post was an attempt to stave off this awkwardness.

Skin is an organ.

[Angelic-Hotfox]

You want my penis don't you? It's okay, you can admit it.

Yes...yes I do :rolleyes:

hey but at least I created a group specifically dedicated to you. You should feel special. Plus you have so many fans :]

[Kyir]

Skin is an organ.

You got me there.

[I MaFiA I]

Yes...yes I do :rolleyes:

hey but at least I created a group specifically dedicated to you. You should feel special. Plus you have so many fans :]

It's okay, a lot of girls want my shlong. You should try not to show it so much though, it makes you look pretty pathetic. If you're cute you may have a chance though, as long as know how to stfu after sex.

[High Heat]

1. Muhammed
2. Jesus
3. Confucius
4. Ghandi
5. Marx
6. Hitler
7. Mao
8. Alexander the Great
9. Aristotle
10. Guttenburg
(Close to the top ten: Newton, Pasteur, Kahn, Einstein, Buddha, Luther (not King), Darwin, Freud, Neitzche, Jefferson... there's a ton).

Louis Pasteur: So, uh, meat…I noticed I didn't make your top ten list of influential people. I gotta admit, I'm a little disappointed.

meat.eater: Hey, Sweet Lou. Louie. Lou-ster. Don't take it personal man. I had to make some tough calls. But, hey, you were in the second tier, right? :)

LP: Yeah, I saw that. The "almost top ten"?

m.e: Actually, it was "close to the top ten."

LP: Oh. Yeah. Right. That's great. Real great. Thanks a lot for that.

m.e: What?

LP: I'm just sayin'. I mean...pasteurization? Hello? You don't like milk?

m.e: Sure, Lou. We all like milk. It's great. But, c'mon. You honestly don't think your little milk thing should have gotten you in over Muhammad, do you?

LP: Well, maybe not Muh—

m.e: Jesus? Ha! Don't tell me you think you should have made it over Jesus!

LP: Well, er, uniq says…

m.e: No, no, no, no, no. And no. Don't give me any "uniq says" garbage. You are not makin' the list over Jesus. I'm sorry. And I'll deal with uniq about that. After all, who's the blue around here and who's the purple? Huh?

LP: Ok, ok. Sheesh. What about… *looks at the list*

LP: Here! Number 10 on your list...Gutenberg! Surely, I was more influential than him?

m.e: OMGZORZ!!!! Are you kidding me? Are you effing kidding me? Dude!

LP: What?

m.e: Duuuuuuude!!!

LP: What?

m.e: Let me take a deep breath here. I can't believe what you're suggesting.

LP: What???

m.e: You do realize that Gutenberg was responsible for Police Academy I through IV?

LP: err…

m.e: And Cocoon? Not only did he star in the Police Academies, he also starred in Cocoon! And in Cocoon: The Return! That's two significant franchises, fella!

LP: *looks down and shuffles feet*

m.e: And, on top of that, you ever heard of a little project called Three Men and a Baby? Starring Tom Selleck, Ted Danson and a MISTER STEVE GUTENBERG??? And followed up very successfully by Three Men and a Little Lady?!! Good God, man! There's a difference between being proud of your own accomplishments and being downright egomaniacal.

LP: Ok, ok, I gotcha. Hey, let's just forget I said anything, alright? Let's just forget we even had this convo. Listen, thanks for the "almost top ten." Really, I mean it. Thanks.

m.e: Ah, don't worry about it. Hey, Lou...you're a good kid.

LP: *blushes and walks away*

Thomas Jefferson: *running up and waiving his hands* Meat! Hey, meat! Wait up a sec. I gotta ask you somethin'…

[_Thunder_]

I love HH theater.

[ScytheMan]

The guttenburg twist had me in stiches.

[Faulty Logic]

Why arent

Darius / Charlemagne/ Draco - not the harry potter character
Rosalyn Franklin / Watson+Crick
Oppenheimer
Napoleon / Patton
Carnegie/Rockefeller
Judas
Louis Pasteur / Mathias Schleiden / Cook / Ben Carson
Gutenberg
Bill Gates
Rear Admiral Grace Murray Hopper

on any lists?

Edit: Right on to Meat. and Iceman for the Pasteur / Gutenberg / Oppenheimer reference

But seriosuly? Darius is WAY more influential than Obama.

[ScytheMan]

Why arent

Darius / Charlemagne/ Draco - not the harry potter character
Rosalyn Franklin / Watson+Crick
Oppenheimer
Napoleon / Patton
Carnegie/Rockefeller
Judas
Louis Pasteur / Mathias Schleiden / Cook / Ben Carson
Gutenberg
Bill Gates
Rear Admiral Grace Murray Hopper

on any lists?

Edit: Right on to Meat. and Iceman for the Pasteur / Gutenberg / Oppenheimer reference

But seriosuly? Darius is WAY more influential than Obama.


Screw you I had Guttenburg first. Some of those people would be my top 50 though.

[Faulty Logic]

Screw you I had Guttenburg first. Some of those people would be my top 50 though.

My b.

I dont see how Judas isnt mentioned
Billgates is essential our new age Gutenberg
Charlemagne had the first public university
Darius perfected the system of authoritative districts and bureaucracy
Draco had one of the first sets of Western definite law that applied to all parts of life and wasnt religiously passed on
Ben Carson is far more influential than Obama if you just want to look at racial lines.
Pasteur/Cook/Schleiden/Darwin for modern scinece principles
Rosalyn Franklin/Watson+Crick for the discovery of the DNA structure and its further implications in modern science
Carnegie/Rockefeller were crucial in the development in both Americas growth as a nation, its influence, and its legislature.

[Wizzy`]

Finally someone who isn't just naming random historical figures that influence their life for no reason at all.

<3 you Faulty

[Darque]

Bah..I'm not a huge fan of Columbus for many reasons and see no reason why the man deserves his own day. I also feel it is waaay to early to be putting Obama on any top 10 lists.

It's difficult to make a list of ten but i'll throw up some important figures and edit as needed..in no particular order:

Moses..This spot could also be filled by Jesus, Muhammad, or Buddha even. Seeing as I only have ten spots, they can all share this one.

George Washington- As much as i'd love to put Lincoln here, my understanding is that we may not have even had a presidential system was it not for this man. Jefferson, JFK, and Reagan make the runner up list.

Julius Caesar- "Veni, vidi, vici" Rome attributed so much culture to the world that it's hard to not put on the man who helped spread it. My runner up for his spot was Augustus Caesar..Rome's first emperor.

Adolf Hitler- Anyone who can convince quite a few nations to attempt genocide makes my influential list.

Socrates- Socrates was the teacher of the great Plato who then taught Aristotle. Between them they layed the foundations for natural philosophy, western philosophy, and science in general. He also has one of my favorite quotes attributed to him, "I know that I don't know." It's ironic that such a brilliant man knew that, in the grand schemes of things, we don't know nearly as much as we claim we do while in everyday life we see morons claiming to have the answer to it all.

Edit: After doing some research on the subject I realise my list is ignorant to much of the world and history. See the following post.

[Darque]

I got this list from a blog I saw in which cites a book called "The 100"

Muhammad (570- June 8, 632)
Jesus Christ (6 B.C. – 27 A.D.)
Saint Paul of Tarsus (10?-67)
Isaac Newton (December 25, 1642- March 20, 1727)
Gautama Buddha (563 B.C.E. – 483 B.C.E.)
Confucius (traditionally September 8? 551 BCE–479 BCE)
Aristotle (384- March, 7 322 B.C.)
Constantine the Great (February 27, 272–May 22, 337)
Ts’ai Lun (c. 50-121)
Johannes Guttenberg (1400-1468)
Galileo Galilei (February 15, 1564 – January 8, 1642)
Louis Pasteur (December 27, 1822 – September 28, 1895)
Christopher Columbus (1451 – 20 May 1506)
Albert Einstein (March 14, 1879 – April 18, 1955)
Moses (Fl. 1500 B.C.E.)
Charles Darwin (12 February 1809 – 19 April 1882)
Euclid (c. 365-275 B.C.)
Nicolaus Copernicus (February 19, 1473 – May 24, 1543)
Augustus (23 September 63 BC – 19 August AD 14)
Qin Shi Huang Di (July 247 BC–221 BC)
Martin Luther (November 10, 1483 – February 18, 1546)
Karl Marx (May 5, 1818 – March 14, 1883)
Michael Faraday (September 22, 1791 – August 25, 1867)
Galen (131-201)
Antoine Lavoisier (August 26, 1743–May 8, 1794)
James Watt (January 19, 1736–August 19, 1819)
William T.G. Morton (August 9, 1819 - July 15, 1868)
James Clerk Maxwell (June 13, 1831 - November 5, 1879)
Wright Brothers (c.1870)
Genghis Khan (c. 1155- August 18, 1227)
Thutmose III (c.1500? B.C.E. - 1426 B.C.E.)
George Washington (February 22, 1732 – December 14, 1799)
Plato (c. 427 BC – c. 347 BC)
Alexander the Great (late July, 356 BC–June 10, 323 BC)
Napoleon Bonaparte (15 August 1769 – 5 May 1821)
Pope Urban II (1042 - July 29, 1099)
John Locke (August 29, 1632–October 28, 1704)
Adam Smith (June 5, 1723 – July 17, 1790)
Adolph Hitler (20 April 1889 – 30 April 1945)
Thoms Alva Edison (February 11, 1847 – October 18, 1931)
Alexander Graham Bell (March 3, 1847 – August 2, 1922)
King David (1085 B.C.E.- 1015 B.C.E.)
Alexander Fleming (August 6, 1881 – March 11, 1955)
Guglielmo Marconi (April 25, 1874 – July 20, 1937)
Hippocrates (c.460-380 B.C.)
King Solomon (970-928 B.C.E.)
Umar ibn al-Khattab (c. 581 - November, 644)
Edward de Vere (April 12, 1550 - June 24, 1604)
Anton van Leeuwenhoek (October 24, 1632 - August 26, 1723)
William the Conquerer (c. 1027 – September 9, 1087)
Gregor Mendel (July 22, 1822 – January 6, 1884)
Werner Heisenberg (December 5, 1901 – February 1, 1976)
John Dalton (September 6, 1766–July 27, 1844)
Asoka (c.300-c. 200 B.C.)
Oliver Cromwell (April 25, 1599 – September 3, 1658)
Julius Caesar (July 12, 100- March 15, 44 B.C.)
Ludwig van Beethoven (December 14 1770 – March 26, 1827)
John Calvin (July 10, 1509–May 27, 1564)
William Harvey (April 1, 1578 - June 3, 1657)
Simón Bolívar (July 24, 1783 – December 17, 1830)
René Descartes (March 31, 1596 – February 11, 1650)
Michelangelo Buonarroti (March 6, 1475 - February 18, 1564)
Lao Tzu (Fl. 450 B.C.)
Louis Daguerre (1787 - 1851)
Saint Augustine of Hippo (November 13, 354 – August 28, 430)
Max Planck (April 23, 1858 – October 4, 1947)
Edward Jenner (May 17, 1749 - January 26, 1823)
Archimedes (287 BC - 212 BC)
Nikolaus Otto (June 14, 1832 - January 28, 1891)
Johannes Kepler (December 27, 1571 – November 15, 1630)
Ernest Rutherford (August 30, 1871 - October 19, 1937)
Joseph Lister (April 5, 1827 – February 10, 1912)
Isabella of Castile (April 22, 1451 – November 26, 1504)
Hernán Cortés (1485–December 2, 1547)
Thomas Jefferson (April 13, 1743 – July 4, 1826)
Joseph Stalin (December 21, 1879 - March 5, 1953)
Francisco Pizarro (c. 1475–June 26, 1541)
Zoroaster (Zarathustra) (c. 628- c. 551 B.C.E.)
Voltaire (November 21, 1694 – May 30, 1778)
Horace Wells (January 21, 1815 - January 24, 1848)
Carl Friedrich Gauss (April 30, 1777 - February 23, 1855)
Sigmund Freud (May 6, 1856 - September 23, 1939)
Nāgārjuna (c. 150 – c. 250)
Leonhard Euler (April 15, 1707 - September 18, 1783)
Jean-Jacques Rousseau (June 28, 1712 – July 2, 1778)
Wilhelm Conrad Röntgen (March 27, 1845 – February 10, 1923)
Pierre de Fermat (August 17, 1601 – January 12, 1665)
Ben Franklin (January 17, 1706 – April 17, 1790)
Niccolo Machiavelli (May 3, 1469 – June 21, 1527)
Thomas Robert Malthus (February, 1766 – December 23, 1834)
Mencius (372 BC – 289 BC)
Peter the Great (9 June 1672–8 February 1725)
Vladamir Ilyich Lenin (April 22, 1870 – January 21, 1924)
Enrico Fermi (September 29, 1901 – November 28, 1954)
Mao Zedong (December 26, 1893 – September 9, 1976)
Johann Sebastian Bach (March 21, 1685 – July 28, 1750)
Sui Wen Ti (541-604)
Gregory Pincus (April 9, 1903 - August 22, 1967)
Mani (210-276)
Mahavira (599 BC - 527 BC)
Charlemagne (c. 742 – January 28, 814)
Cyrus II the Great of Persia (576 - July, 529 BC)
Socrates (June 4, 470-399 B.C.)

[I MaFiA I]

Finally someone who isn't just naming random historical figures that influence their life for no reason at all.

<3 you Faulty

Lol how the hell did Hitler influence my life? I don't even like the guy...Chicago is a very segregated city, with each race generally staying in its own area. We have a place called JewTown, where the jews sell stuff, including food. If Hitler succeeded I would have never tasted a JewTown polish, and I would be enraged.

[Kyir]

Charlemagne had the first public university


Which is just soooo impressive and significant.

[Lex]

Lol how the hell did Hitler influence my life? I don't even like the guy...Chicago is a very segregated city, with each race generally staying in its own area. We have a place called JewTown, where the jews sell stuff, including food. If Hitler succeeded I would have never tasted a JewTown polish, and I would be enraged.

Those jews also wouldn't have fled from their homes and come to the US for you to taste their food if not for Hitler. :p

[I MaFiA I]

Those jews also wouldn't have fled from their homes and come to the US for you to taste their food if not for Hitler. :p

http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/6/64/ExplodingHead.gif

[Faulty Logic]

Which is just soooo impressive and significant.

In my opinion its highly influential.

[Wizzy`]

Lol how the hell did Hitler influence my life? I don't even like the guy...Chicago is a very segregated city, with each race generally staying in its own area. We have a place called JewTown, where the jews sell stuff, including food. If Hitler succeeded I would have never tasted a JewTown polish, and I would be enraged.

Take 'er easy. I wasn't talking about anyone in particular, just saying that there are quite a few forumers naming people without reason. I for one think that threads like this should at least have some information about the people who are being listed..if not what is the point of this thread? One post and then leave? There is no discussion...

[Faulty Logic]

Lol how the hell did Hitler influence my life? I don't even like the guy...Chicago is a very segregated city, with each race generally staying in its own area. We have a place called JewTown, where the jews sell stuff, including food. If Hitler succeeded I would have never tasted a JewTown polish, and I would be enraged.

Actually you wouldnt be enraged cuz youd have never tasted it.
gg

[I MaFiA I]

Actually you wouldnt be enraged cuz youd have never tasted it.
gg

lol another mindf**k..i didn't think about that.

[Mongolian]

I think any person, with the slightest amount of common sense, will say that Obama is an influential and inspirational person. Especially in the black culture. Without getting into a political debate on whether or not you agree with his policies, can you honestly say you don't see why he is considered influential?

Sure Obama is influential and inspirtational, but not top 10 inspiration, maybe not even top 100. Despite how much I love Obama and don't really know what goes on behind doors, the only reason he is being brought up is because people are shallow and only think "influential" means in today's standards not ALL TIME INFLUENTIAL.

I don't think it's fair to judge influential by the # of people that were affected by either. Influential should be judged from the impact that person had in retrospect to humankind. Which is not alalogous to what they have actually accomplished or to say they did good. And yes Hitler is definately going to make that top 10 list despite someone like Ghengis Khan doesn't. And sadly Hitler is probablly going to be more influential then a mother Teresa.

I think people also forgot about fictional people too. One who is also in the top 10, satan. Also, Mom & Dad are probablly sitting in the top 10. It's still very difficult to judge the #6-10 spots though. That would be too long a debate and a silly one judging from other's responses.

[Lord Kalamady]

Yeah, I never said I thought he was top ten, I just said there is no denying him being an influential person.

[T Solo]

Wait a few years.

[CRX687]

Criteria, please. If it's number of people influenced, I'd put confucius, lao tze, and some of the ancient greeks/romans on the first list. If you're looking for influencing modern american thought, then it looks about right.

[Unforgottner]

I was posting them to show the men's bodies and how amazing they look.

I literally lold.

I can tell what an amazing body looks like on a man.

Hahahahahaha.

[I MaFiA I]

I literally lold.



Hahahahahaha.

I really don't get the humour...

[Wizzy`]

I really don't get the humour...

Unfo is insecure about his sexual orientation.

[Unforgottner]

I really am.
I think I'm gonna PM Mafia for advice on how to tell what an amazing body looks like on a man.

[Wizzy`]

We all know that you and Oisin aren't just joking.

[I MaFiA I]

I really am.
I think I'm gonna PM Mafia for advice on how to tell what an amazing body looks like on a man.

I'd be willing to bet that you're out of shape. Possibly obese, because I don't understand how any man wouldn't know how to make himself look better. When I look at a bodybuilder's body, I'm not thinking "fapfapfap", I'm thinking how long it will take me to get to that point. Does this point need to be stressed any more, or will you continue trolling?

[Unforgottner]

We all know that you and Oisin aren't just joking.

Today at my work it was gay pride day.

coincidence?