TAO Riddles

[OpixMK]

In my insomnia last night I thought up some strategy riddles for TAO. For simplicity call the two players White and Black. Both players are playing to win (or draw if they can't win) - it's not some special type of match where you're trying to do weird things other than win.

Medium

1) Devise a situation where it is a very good move for White to kill his own assassin.

2) You are playing a TAO match with a twist- you can only have 2 units on the field to start. Your opponent is a computer with 2 frost golems and is infinitely intelligent. What is the best team of 2 units for you to play with? (Do not say frost-frost)

Hard *** Do not include assassin bombs or paralysis units in your answer.

3) White has an LW and a BW. Black has no units left that are capable of killing or paralyzing White's lightning ward. Devise a situation where it is a brilliant move for White to barrier his LW.

4) Devise a situation where it is a brilliant move for White to barrier his enemy's unit. Assume black was playing relatively smartly (about 1400 level).

Notes:
#1 is supposed to be an easy problem.

#2 was inspired from an old thread in Legends when there was discussion of the best team for a 2unit VS 2 units TAO tourny.

All problems are solvable; enjoy.

[Wizzy']

1) You are a nub

[Nightmarez]

3) I BLOWZ YOUR LW TO ONEZ HEALTH


i winzorz?

[Loopget]

2) Wisp and a Mud

[OpixMK]

loopget you're close.


SOLUTION SPOILER FOR #2: Highlight

I think wisp/beast rider was the general conclusion of the best combo. Beast rider has a 0 turn move wait as opposed to the mud 1 and has a 1 turn attack rate, as opposed to mud 2. It's double square attack prevents a frost from stacking to protect another and theres only 4 units on the field so there won't be much walling going on. But wisp/mud may be a guaranteed win as well.

[Punker11]

I want to say furgon and wisp, or wisp and scout for the second riddle.

[Pikachu!]

1. Kill assassin with pyromancer, simultaneously kill-burning three of their knights + their scout.

2. Wisp, Beast Rider

3. Your chanty is freezing your LW. If they kill your LW, they can reach your chanty [also they have an attacker in range of your barrier ward, should you choose to barrier your chanty]. Your chanty is on three wait.

4. Barrier an assassin [15HP]. Your units: Cleric, Knight, LW, BW. Their units: Assassin, Pyromancer [their Pyromancer is in range of your LW, and will continue to be if it moves; it is your turn, and your LW is on a one turn wait, as is your knight (and your knight is also in range of their assassin)].


*yawns*

[Loopget]

1. Kill assassin with pyromancer, simultaneously kill-burning three of their knights + their scout.

2. Wisp, Beast Rider

3. Your chanty is freezing your LW. If they kill your LW, they can reach your chanty [also they have an attacker in range of your barrier ward, should you choose to barrier your chanty]. Your chanty is on three wait.

4. Barrier an assassin [15HP]. Your units: Cleric, Knight, LW, BW. Their units: Assassin, Pyromancer [their Pyromancer is in range of your LW, and will continue to be if it moves; it is your turn, and your LW is on a one turn wait, as is your knight (and your knight is also in range of their assassin)].


*yawns*

............^

[The Anti]

The assassin and enchantress came over to MySpace last night and they Twitter'd my Yahoo till I Googled all over their Facebooks.

[Punker11]

Sounds like a good night.

[The Anti]

Mmhmm. Millions of my unborn children died on their Facebooks last night.

[OpixMK]

1. Kill assassin with pyromancer, simultaneously kill-burning three of their knights + their scout.

2. Wisp, Beast Rider

3. Your chanty is freezing your LW. If they kill your LW, they can reach your chanty [also they have an attacker in range of your barrier ward, should you choose to barrier your chanty]. Your chanty is on three wait.

4. Barrier an assassin [15HP]. Your units: Cleric, Knight, LW, BW. Their units: Assassin, Pyromancer [their Pyromancer is in range of your LW, and will continue to be if it moves; it is your turn, and your LW is on a one turn wait, as is your knight (and your knight is also in range of their assassin)].


*yawns*


That makes 3 and 4 too easy. Assume no assassin bombs or paralysis units for 3/4.

[Pikachu!]

No. You can't make a "riddle" and then say "Oh, after all, I made it too easy. You didn't get it, because I screwed up."

Now gtho. I'm joking.


Edit: These were way too easy no matter what restrictions you can put-- if it's possible, it's easy.

[OpixMK]

Ok you're right.

In that case, I will post #3 and #4 with the correct rules in the future when no one will remember this.

Yeah, thats right, whoever's negging me. I will get you back.

[Pikachu!]

Yeah, thats right, whoever's negging me. I will get you back.



:rolleyes: Gor negging the wrong people, you most likely will be negged more than you were originally?

Edit: Not to say you were wrong-- I negged you; I thought this thread was a stupid idea. :p

[redreoicy]

In my insomnia last night I thought up some strategy riddles for TAO. For simplicity call the two players White and Black. Both players are playing to win (or draw if they can't win) - it's not some special type of match where you're trying to do weird things other than win.

Medium

1) Devise a situation where it is a very good move for White to kill his own assassin.

2) You are playing a TAO match with a twist- you can only have 2 units on the field to start. Your opponent is a computer with 2 frost golems and is infinitely intelligent. What is the best team of 2 units for you to play with? (Do not say frost-frost)

Hard *** Do not include assassin bombs or paralysis units in your answer.

3) White has an LW and a BW. Black has no units left that are capable of killing or paralyzing White's lightning ward. Devise a situation where it is a brilliant move for White to barrier his LW.

4) Devise a situation where it is a brilliant move for White to barrier his enemy's unit. Assume black was playing relatively smartly (about 1400 level).

Notes:
#1 is supposed to be an easy problem.

#2 was inspired from an old thread in Legends when there was discussion of the best team for a 2unit VS 2 units TAO tourny.

All problems are solvable; enjoy.
1. hitting opponents cleric through assassin with dmw
2. furgon and scout. Unlike wisp and beastrider, they can actually win if you ignore the draw rule.
3. White has 2 bw's adjacent to a corner, with his lw 6 squares away from the corner, and 3 knights nearby. Black has teleported his 1hp wisp into the corner, his only unit. White should kill his own bw so as to get at the wisp.
4. white has 1 scout and one barrier in the center at the front, both at full health, the scout has one wait.
black has one cleric with 6 health, in range of the scout no matter where it moves, and a knight with 14 health that is on the opposite side of the field. White should barrier the knight so that the knight can't get healed more than 1 hit to kill, giving him the sure win. Otherwise black would have a chance at a win.

Not very hard riddles :p

[Nightmarez]

------^ Your's were better, half the people said they were impossible until guide decided to be sexy.

[OpixMK]

Edit: Not to say you were wrong-- I negged you; :p

Why would you ever do that.

[Pikachu!]

2. furgon and scout. Unlike wisp and beastrider, they can actually win if you ignore the draw rule.

No.


Why would you ever do that.

Reasons such as how you mis-quoted me.

[OpixMK]

How would furgon-scout work? you'll end up walling yourself in, and if they paralyze your scout you draw

[redreoicy]

How would furgon-scout work? you'll end up walling yourself in, and if they paralyze your scout you draw

Step 1: wall yourself in
Step 2: thin the wall using scout
Step 3: use furgon to thicken wall
Step 4: repeat steps 2 and 3 until frosts are trapped and scout can kill them without risk.

Note: Be sure to never allow furgon in a place where it can be frozen and scout can't defocus frost without being frozen itself.

[Cowboy Bebop]

or you could just shrub around one or both the frosts. Then just pick them off with the scout.

[Pikachu!]

Step 1: wall yourself in

You lose at step one. And yes, I'd be happy to show you next time I see you on.