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Goomba
02-18-2004, 09:13 PM
Description: Long black coat, a hat like the DMW, and dressed in knight armour. (Under the coat and minus the helm, of course)
Hp: 35
Damage: 20
Movement : 3 squares ; diamond pattern
Blocking : 60% front and sides
Armour : ?? (give me some ideas)
Special Abilities : Has the ability to block magic attacks as if they were physical attacks.
Basically it would be similar to a knight in movement and blocking. It has reduced health and damage to keep things balanced. Used as a mage killer, as it gets a chance to block magic.
By 'Magic', I mean Pyros, DMW, Paralyze, and wards of all sorts.
Clerics would heal normally, as units can not block healing attacks.
And in relation to the front/side blocking, it would be determined by the attacking unit's LOS and the defending unit's orientation, regardless of the area effect of the spell. Easiestly (eh why not) described like a Scouts attack.
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Goomba
02-19-2004, 07:31 PM
Feedback, please!!
blade of souls
02-19-2004, 07:36 PM
i tried 2 post a unit that blocked magic "hero Knight" and all i got was its 2 complicated and it sucks but i like the idea so im with u
max2k106
02-19-2004, 09:59 PM
hm, i think that would ruin a lot of peoples formations, (like ratcage for example) that are totaly based on magic attacks that are unblockable, im with u 30% of the way
Lord Wevilspore
02-19-2004, 11:57 PM
One problem I see, the Blocking should be 70%, period. The sides are exactly 1/2 the front Blocking, so it would be 35%, not 60%. A 2nd problem, look at the Assassin, then look at your suggestion. To be balanced, the Witch Hunter would have an Armor of about 8% or less.
My suggestion:
Power: 20
Range: 1
Area of Effect: 1
Hit Points: 30
Armor: 15
Blocking: 65
Move: 3
Recovery: 1
Anybody else have better suggestions?
fragdemon
02-20-2004, 06:02 AM
Special Abilities : Has the ability to block magic attacks as if they were physical attacks.
Define "Magic" attacks.
Are you referring to unblockable attacks?
Focus attacks?
Or both?
Also, what about healing attacks (If yuou look at the Cleric Information: Units will not attempt to block Healing spells.)
As far as blocking goes, picture a Pyromancer, who deals damage in a cross shaped area of effect. Is the side in which it attacks from chosen by the center of the effect (assuming it's centered behind you, will it count as a hit in the back?) or is it chosen from the attacker's relative position (if the pyromancer is in front of the knight, but the spell is centered behind, it will still be considered an attack from the front)
Goomba
02-20-2004, 08:53 PM
Ok, let me clear things up. By 'Magic', I ment Pyros, DMW, Paralyze, and wards of all sorts.
Clerics would heal normally, as you stated that it was stated that units may not block healing attacks.
And in relation to the front/side blocking, it would be determined by the attacking unit's LOS and the defending unit's orientation. Easiestly (eh why not) described like a Scouts attack.
Office_Shredder
02-20-2004, 09:07 PM
Yeah, but is the line of sight from a pyro shot determined by where the guy is in relation to the pyro, or where the pyro is targetting?
Lord Wevilspore
02-20-2004, 11:45 PM
As I suggested in the Reflect Ward thread (http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=4172), it could be a combination between the location of the caster and the location of the spell center.
Also, I don't think Paralyze should be blocked either. Go to the Enchantress (http://www.tacticsarena.com/human/enchantress.html). It describes how the Paralyze would penetrate a Barrier. Because of this, I don't think this unit should be able to block it.
fragdemon
02-21-2004, 05:11 AM
Yeah, but is the line of sight from a pyro shot determined by where the guy is in relation to the pyro, or where the pyro is targetting?
And in relation to the front/side blocking, it would be determined by the attacking unit's LOS
Please, Office, he just answered the question directly before your post, and I asked the question already two posts before please read before posting.
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Anyways, as I've said before, please don't refer to attacks by their effect, but rather by their nature. For example:
Also, I don't think Paralyze should be blocked either. Go to the Enchantress. It describes how the Paralyze would penetrate a Barrier. Because of this, I don't think this unit should be able to block it.
Paralysis attacks don't penetrate barriers.
All focus attacks penetrate barriers. So you're saying that you think all focus attacks shouldn't be blocked.
Paralysis itself is just an effect of their attack, and later units may just paralyze opponents for a specific period of time with unblockable or even regular attacks.
Office_Shredder
02-21-2004, 08:45 AM
Please, Office, he just answered the question directly before your post, and I asked the question already two posts before please read before posting.
But he never answered my question in specific detail, whether the LOS was between the caster and the spell focus, or the caster and the unit being hit. For example, look at this:
A00
X0P
000
P=Pyromancer
A=Witch Hunter
X=where the pyromancer is shooting
The Witch Hunter is looking up towards the top of my post
If the Pyro was a scout, shooting the witch hunter would be a side attack. However, since he is shooting the X, the fire would be "sprouting" from the X into the witch hunters back. So is it a side or rear attack in this situation?
Rogue_Wolf
02-21-2004, 11:14 AM
Note: Don't make units after late night cartoon shows. Keep it original people.
-Rogue_Wolf
Goomba
02-21-2004, 02:33 PM
:: Edit ::
It would try to block paralysis and all focus spells. Any attack that is not physical would try to be blocked.
fragdemon
02-21-2004, 03:50 PM
If it's the attacking unit's LOS, as I specifically highlighted (even in my quote, I highlighted it), it would be considered a side attack...
But apparently, it isn't the attacking unit's LOS, because Goomba seems to have doubts at this point.
I personally believe the blocking should be decided by the attacking unit's LOS, as I originally interpreted it (meaning it would be a side attack in your situation).
Goomba
02-22-2004, 04:51 AM
Sorry if I mislead anyone... It is determined by the units LOS, no matter where the spell was target.
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