View Full Version : More Unit Spots on the sidelines
DuBious
04-07-2004, 02:14 PM
I have run into a new problem lately... although I'd like to experiment with certain set ups, I find I am not able because I need to keep all the units I have. There is no more room on the sidelines. While I understand that it is ludicrous to have 100 free spaces to store units, I was wondering if it was possible to increase the present 25 spaces to 30 or even 35. I believe this would foster more experimentation and innovation as people are able to keep what they feel necessary and still have some room to breathe. This would also alleviate the problem of slowly losing the capability for more units as new units come out.
Is it possible to do so? I think it would be a simple change to implement, and an increase of 5 spots would hardly be incentive to abuse the privelege. Thanks :)
DuBious
plusminus
04-07-2004, 02:35 PM
Agreed. I'm not likely to trash any of my units i can't get back in drops. On the regular servers, this makes 13 units. (3 knights, 2 scouts, lit ward, 3 golems, furgon, dragon, DSM, and the beast rider) On top of that, there are some units I really like and am not likely to get rid of except in excess quantities, like clerics and enchantresses. This doesn't leave a whole lot of room for experimenting.
Perhaps this is the point, and I agree there should be limits on how many units you can have off to the side. But, I don't see how anyone could have a problem with another 5 or 10 spots for units, and it would offer up a lot of breathing room.
BoBo The Fool
04-07-2004, 08:07 PM
I agree.
I want to do some experimenting, and most the experiments i have in mind would require using a lot of the same unit (eg, paralyser setup would need around 8 enchantress, mage bomb requires a lot of pyros, i was curious about what a 8 or 9 assassin setup..... and it would be totally cool (or annoying) to see what one could do with 9 BWs). Obviously, if i want to start collecting units for all these setups i wouldn't be able to fit them all.
Megabyte
04-08-2004, 05:12 PM
while i understand the urge to want to build a setup using 8-9 of one unit type...even you all have to admit that its for more amusement and not practical strategy/lineup purposes. You CAN build those setups if u like, you just can't store all those units for each type at once. I think the 25 limit allows us to keep the right amount of units in the right combination, I've never reakky had a problem with it.
Its an amusing idea to expand...but it doesn't really serve any practical purpose right now. Of course that could change, if/when more unit types become available.
DuBious
04-08-2004, 07:13 PM
That's where I must disagree with you Megabyte. More unit spots would serve a VERY practical function; experimentation. While other people may not be inclined to do so, I am. I am finding it difficult to juggle all the units I need, while trying to keep some to experiment with. An extra 5 spaces would go a long way to alleviating this problem.
It's not simply for "amusement", (although this game is simply amusement), experimentation is what results in new strategies and more varied gameplay. The prospect of facing a deep freeze army rich in chanties, bw's and a frostie, versus a direct damage crew with multiple assassins, 2 scouts, and a BR would be both entertaining and enlightening. One would learn new tactics. As it stands, a limit is a good idea, but I find the current limit is becoming rather stifling. There is no real "downside" to this whole thing, so in reality there is no reason not to expand the amount of available slots on the sidelines of the setup.
As an aside, before anybody contradicts my saying that there is no downside, keep in mind that I am not talking about a huge expansion. I'm simply talking 5 more spots or so. All in all I think the idea would be welcomed by most, and opposed by none. That's not easily said about most new ideas.:)
BoBo The Fool
04-09-2004, 05:04 PM
Well the srevers are already being weighed down as it is... although i agree, an extra 5 spaces shouldn't be THAT much of a problem. Considering that most of the problem (i assume) for the servers db come from the creation of thousands of garbage accounts, the extra 5 spaces would remain unused in those accoutns. And really, the majority of these extra 5 spaces would only be used by the paying Gold Members anyway. There are few, if any, greys that would be able to get that many units between wipes.
Megabyte
04-09-2004, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by DuBious
That's where I must disagree with you Megabyte. More unit spots would serve a VERY practical function; experimentation. While other people may not be inclined to do so, I am. I am finding it difficult to juggle all the units I need, while trying to keep some to experiment with. An extra 5 spaces would go a long way to alleviating this problem.
check out my basic strategy site :) I am a HEVY setup tester. Got about 80 or so different setups worked out using gold units and another 20 for greys (not all loaded in site, but on my comp atm, only about 15-20 on the site at a time).
I'm just saying, that with the proper blending of units in ur sidebar, for all practical purposes you shouldn't need any more units (in my view).
I am 100% satisfied with the units in my sidebar, and until they come out with a new one, I don't see the need to alter it (if you want a listing of all the units I can give that too)
plusminus
04-10-2004, 01:00 PM
You've got lots of formations on your site Megabyte but I couldn't fine one that I would call experimental. (EDIT: Maybe that evil all-mage setup.) What if I decided I wanted to try a formation with a stoney, 4 assassins, 4 DMWs and a cleric? Assuming I could win all those drops, I'd surely have to ged rid of a few things along my sidelines. Especially if I liked that formation but didn't want to commit to it.
If the 25 unit spots work for you, great. That doesn't mean, however, that they work for everyone.
Megabyte
04-10-2004, 01:12 PM
*shrugs* when I stopped updating the site I took out all the odd formation types and put in stuff thats mainly meant to aid noob players and help ppl get a feel for some more common setups.
I do hav pics of setups using all melee (3 knights, 3 assassins, 2 scouts, stony, and a cleric) and a few other ones that are just really odd, but since they're real special case unless ppl specifically want to see them I don't load them up.
Here's a brief listing of what I think is the balanced side bar-
Basic Gold compliment:
2 scouts, 3 knights, LW, DSM, Dragon Tyrant, BeastRider, Mud Golem, Frost Golem, Stone golem, Furgon
Others:
3 pyros, 4 assassins, 5 DMW, 2 BW, 4 Clerics, 3 Enchantresses
Upon reallly putting some thought into it, I hav come around. I do think adding another 5 spaces would make it more interesting. There are just a few things where I'd like to have one more units of to make a type of setup. So...ur right :) I retract my contrary opinion.
plusminus
04-10-2004, 02:14 PM
Glad to here it :) I really don't think it's asking a lot.
And I would be interested in seeing some of your more unusual formations, if it's not a lot of trouble. If it is, dun worry 'bout it.
DuBious
04-10-2004, 03:22 PM
Sweet! One "don't care" changed to a yes!:)
I must complement you megabyte, and not simply because you now agree with me;) but because you are able to change your opinion. Not everybody is capable of doing so. (There are a couple of examples of such people right in the suggestion forums) That takes some maturity:cool: So.... now that four people have expressed a yes opinion... anybody else? It'd be really neat if this were implemented.
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