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Snarr
05-25-2004, 08:48 PM
The Revelation Grand League

1. Aims
2. Organisation
3. Matches
4. Scoring
5. End of round procedures
6. Violations

1. Aims
1.1 The primary aim of the Revelation Grand League is to provide a new fun and competitive aspect to the game.
1.2 A secondary objective is to provide a better mean of evaluating a player’s skill, it achieves that by: Having a generally higher number of games then in a tournament which would greatly decrease the role of luck.
Having a more wide variety of opponents, limiting the effect of the formation – counter formation issue.
Having no selectivity of your opponents, overcoming the problem which allows the exploitation of the current rating system.
Updating periodically, to give chance to show improvement by players.
Does not allow unit drops.1.3 The last objective is to generally attract a greater crowd to the Revelation server.

2. Organisation
2.1 There will be 7 groups, each group with 9 players in it (the number will change if deemed suitable). The groups will be named alphabetically A-G, (with A being the strongest, B being the second and so on
2.2 Each group will be under the supervision of a league leader to whom anything that needs to be (match results, problems or violation) will be reported.
2.3 The league will have rounds which will last 28 days. A new round will start a few days after the end of the old one.
2.4 New players may join only at the beginning of new rounds; players who wish to quit will do best doing so at the end of a round.

3. Matches
3.1 Every player plays each person in his group twice, giving a grand total of 16 games per round.
3.2 All games must be completed in the allowed 28 days period.
3.3 Players who complete less then 10 matches in the allowed period without justification will be suspended from the next round.
3.4 Games results are to be reported by the winner only to the league leader as soon as possible, to allow time to process them. Reports will be done by emails to taoleague@hotmail.com and in the following format (or resembling that):

Snarr Vs. Punishment Co.
Group A
Winner: Snarr (specify home or away game)

Most importantly, is to have your group as your subject, so it is easy for us to organise.

3.5 Reports are based on a trust system, violation of this trust system are described in section 6.
3.6 Matches are to be played on the Revelation server.
3.7 The allowed units are basic gold, no drop, 10 units may be used including any of the following:

1 Lightening ward
1 Barrier Ward
1 Dark Magic Witch
1 Dragon Speaker Mage
1 Beast Rider
1 Dragon (counts as 2 units)
1 Mud Golem
1 Frost Golem
1 Stone Golem
1 Furgon
1 Cleric
1 Assassin
1 Enchantress
2 Pyromancers
2 Scouts
3 Knights
1 Poison Wisp
1 Golem Ambusher

3.8 If a game has started and one of the players has unit drop in his formation, then the victory will be automatically awarded to the other player. This is to avoid players seeing the formation and then changing according to it.
3.9 A player is to play his opponent twice, in one of which games (the home game) he will get first turn, and in the other (the away game) he will go second. This will be determined by alphabetical order, the player lower in the alphabet will play at home on the first game. For example; Punishment Co. will get the first home game against Snarr.
3.10 The responsibility to coordinate matches falls on the player; this can be done any way they choose to. The recommended way would be private messages via the forums. Do not make new threads in the forums!

4. Scoring
4.1 3 points awarded for a victory.
4.2 1 point awarded for a loss
4.3 2 points awarded for a draw.
4.4 Disconnect is treated as a loss, unless the other party agrees for a rematch, which he should do unless the game balance was tipped to his side.

5. End of round procedures
5.1 At the end of the round all matches must be completed.
5.2 Incomplete matches will result no points awarded to either parties, unless a tournament leader decides otherwise.
5.3 When all scores are added up, the top player from each group will move 2 groups up, the second and third will move 1 group up.
5.4 The bottom player in a group will move 2 groups down, and the 2 above him will move 1 group down.
5.5 An exception to this rule will be that the 4th player from the bottom in group A will move to group B as well. This comes to compensate for the fact that the top player from group B cannot move 2 groups up.
5.6 The bottom 3 players form the bottom group, and the last one from the one before last group will have to wait the next round out.
5.7 In case of a draw between players the winner of most matches within that group will be the ranked higher, if those are equal then the winner of the most recent match will be ranked highest.
5.8 The winner of group A will… We’ll see… Nothing for the first round but we will do as best we can to get something.

6. Violations
6.1 Violation of the rules will result in sanctions which may be expressed as reduced point, suspension and even permanent ban, depending on the severity of the violation.
6.2 The decision will be taken by the league leaders.

blazedaces
05-25-2004, 08:53 PM
As soon as I can get on revelation can I join any league? How are you going to decide who gets in each league anyway, just who wants to, or the leaders decide?

nads
05-25-2004, 09:13 PM
I'm interested, but I want to play for AAA Buffalo so I can get called up later, and might have a chance at winning one before then. Also, Sundays are bad for me. If you make me play on Sunday I'll surrender after 2 moves, or play you with my grey units. Yes, I did it in the last tourney :)

Darrington
05-25-2004, 09:47 PM
Im in.

Bottle
05-25-2004, 09:55 PM
I'll join if I can, but I'll be leaving TAO again in 4 weeks time and won't be back for 3 whole months... damn holidays. So maybe it isn't a good idea. Damn.

ArcPaladinZero
05-25-2004, 10:10 PM
Bottle don't leave us again! :(

theburning
05-25-2004, 10:17 PM
you're leaving again so soon ?!?!?

thrdflrmshr
05-25-2004, 10:30 PM
It is the summer. Bottle already told us that his dialup at home doesn't cut it for TAO.

Hugh Junit
05-25-2004, 10:39 PM
Sounds like fun. My only request is that Seed and Dr work on a"streaker unit". It's only function will be to run onto the playing field ( naked , of course) and cause the other player to lose 1 turn. Each player will be able to call upon the streaker only once per game. Timing will be key........* notices everyone staring * Okay, how about a cheerleader unit? Same principle....* slowly reaches for beer*

EDIT- Seriously though, I do think it's a cool idea:cool:

ArcPaladinZero
05-25-2004, 10:54 PM
A unit that removes clothing... sounds great! :D

Anarchy1
05-25-2004, 11:23 PM
I'm in.

Rogue_Wolf
05-25-2004, 11:27 PM
I love how that everyone of Hugh's posts end with "*Slowly reaches for beer*".

And this sounds interesting. I'm in pending that I have time, but I think I will.

-Rogue_Wolf

DivineRight
05-25-2004, 11:56 PM
On a side note, I realized that theburning is copying me. I am the longest running user to have no avatar and no signature.

theburning wants to be just like me. Its kind of cute actually.

ArcPaladinZero
05-26-2004, 12:21 AM
DR HAS SATAN NUMBER OF POSTS! Sorry, it's nearly 3 am and I'm bored...

Snarr
05-26-2004, 03:49 AM
Did I also menation to keep on topic?
DR you have your first warning! ;)

Mnrogar
05-26-2004, 04:13 AM
While we're on the subject Snarr, shouldn't this be in the Revelation forum? ;)

MokoToko
05-26-2004, 04:32 AM
im am SO in....i missed the gold tourny, which made me SO mad

Snarr
05-26-2004, 05:53 AM
Originally posted by Mnrogar
While we're on the subject Snarr, shouldn't this be in the Revelation forum? ;)

Well there was a great problem with people bot being upgraded for the gold forums last time and lots of people couldn't sigh in.

Alright, I think we have 25 spots left. If need it will be expanded.

Bottle
05-26-2004, 06:21 AM
What date will it start? I can probably make the first league if it starts within a few weeks, although I'll have one desperate week to play 22 games...

theburning
05-26-2004, 06:40 AM
Originally posted by DivineRight
On a side note, I realized that theburning is copying me. I am the longest running user to have no avatar and no signature.

theburning wants to be just like me. Its kind of cute actually.

hmmmmmmmm...or perhaps you have always had an avatar and signature but once you saw I had none you got rid of them.

Now who wants to be just like who?!?!

xerent
05-26-2004, 06:45 AM
Originally posted by Bottle
What date will it start? I can probably make the first league if it starts within a few weeks, although I'll have one desperate week to play 22 games...

3 games a day... not to horrible.

FryLock
05-26-2004, 06:50 AM
I too, would like to try. I'm also sort of in a Bottle-esque situation, where I'll be around for 2 1/2 weeks until graduation (ahhh! the real world, noooo!) and then gone for 2 weeks (vacation, baby!) and then back for 3 weeks before...law school. Golly.
Anyway, I'll try to work it in to my schedule.

theburning
05-26-2004, 06:55 AM
Originally posted by Bottle
What date will it start? I can probably make the first league if it starts within a few weeks, although I'll have one desperate week to play 22 games...

I'm sure on average you usually play much more than this per week.

thrdflrmshr
05-26-2004, 07:29 AM
I'll do it.

truffleshfl
05-26-2004, 07:54 AM
I'll sign up
Jiggabu on banff

Bottle
05-26-2004, 08:12 AM
Originally posted by xerent
3 games a day... not to horrible.

If no-one in my league is on during certain days, what will I do then? And then there's the chance that they're already in a game when I log on, or that they miss me because of the time zone difference. And I can't play 7 days a week, I will have some work to do as well. So basically, I'm not sure I'll be able to make it.

Snarr
05-26-2004, 08:24 AM
Originally posted by Bottle
If no-one in my league is on during certain days, what will I do then? And then there's the chance that they're already in a game when I log on, or that they miss me because of the time zone difference. And I can't play 7 days a week, I will have some work to do as well. So basically, I'm not sure I'll be able to make it.

Well I can't commit for a date, first we need a full house. And remeber, our moton here in TAO.We may be slow, but we are also ineffective *Gracious Smile*

Office_Shredder
05-26-2004, 08:27 AM
Count me in

Bottle
05-26-2004, 10:25 AM
Yeah, OS can go in the third division:p :D

Office_Shredder
05-26-2004, 10:30 AM
So I get to beat bottle 22 times then?

plusminus
05-26-2004, 11:11 AM
In!

Bottle
05-26-2004, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by Office_Shredder
So I get to beat bottle 22 times then?

No, you get to lose to me twice, if you're lucky enough to be put in division 1.

Originally posted by plusminus
In!

Out!

In!

Out!

Shake it all about!

Office_Shredder
05-26-2004, 11:59 AM
How are you guys choosing who's in what division?

Only_Option
05-26-2004, 12:13 PM
OS, you go in the loser division, along with me, *giggles, oh god...

Dark*Demon
05-26-2004, 12:36 PM
i will join a league

Office_Shredder
05-26-2004, 12:38 PM
If I get stuck in the losers division I will be righteously pissed.

Snarr
05-26-2004, 12:45 PM
OK that is a total misconception you have there OS. The mere fact of being in any division already shows skill. There is no lower division; there is 1 top division, a second division and a third division. There are about 1000 golds, only 36 will be allowed in, so merely being in is already a show of skill.

Anyway like written, it will be decided by ranking on revelation for the first round, and if this isn't your level then you will move up or down accordingly.

xyxaxyz2
05-26-2004, 12:48 PM
Don't worry so much about initial placement, starting in the lowest league doesn't mean you are bad, it just means we don't know that you are good.

If you are placed lower than you should be, you will move up.

Office_Shredder
05-26-2004, 12:56 PM
I was kidding about being in the losers division ;)

So the top 36 on revelation who want to get in on this are in the league?

Cavour
05-26-2004, 01:18 PM
When will it start? Ill come back for this!! sounds fun :) Whos idea was it? So yeah, Im in :)

paulk6
05-26-2004, 03:42 PM
Im in!

Snarr
05-26-2004, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by paulk6
Im in!
PaulK your siggy is waaaay too big, choose either the text or the image. Other then that ok you are in.

Office_Shredder
05-26-2004, 04:00 PM
check out snarr, master of the triple post

P.S. Guys, I just thought of something.

If the divisions are based off of rating, won't that just encourage the people who already play on rev to play there more?

Snarr
05-26-2004, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by Office_Shredder
If the divisions are based off of rating, won't that just encourage the people who already play on rev to play there more?

Thats just the intial placement, there is no other way to do it.

xyxaxyz2
05-26-2004, 04:39 PM
Which league a player is placed in on startup will be decided by league leaders based on rating and reputation

grigri9
05-26-2004, 04:44 PM
I'm in, btw why did you choose 36 ppl as the number of players? wouldn't it make more sense to decide once you know how many people are interested.

theburning
05-26-2004, 04:47 PM
grigri9 is still alive ?!?!?!

Office_Shredder
05-26-2004, 04:49 PM
nope

That's a zombie.

theburning
05-26-2004, 04:51 PM
ok...so he shouldnt be allowed in the tournament!

or wait...should we allow zombie's ??

grigri9
05-26-2004, 04:54 PM
grigri9 is still alive, though barely, having traversed the lands of the Finals. Crossed a raging river of bad grades, he finally returns to the fair land of TAO only to here xyx is starting a league of the elite player's in revelations.


*dies of shock and becomes a zombie*

Office_Shredder
05-26-2004, 04:55 PM
he's not leading it, he's getting forced into the job I hear.

Of course, I can't reveal snarr as my inside man.;)

Snarr
05-26-2004, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by grigri9
I'm in, btw why did you choose 36 ppl as the number of players? wouldn't it make more sense to decide once you know how many people are interested. Originally posted by Snarr
12 players per division for a total of 36 (numbers may vary according to demand).





Originally posted by Office_Shredder
he's not leading it, he's getting forced into the job I hear.

Of course, I can't reveal snarr as my inside man.;) He is right here, I tied him to the chair and I'm whipping him when he stops typing. I also make him make me sandwitches.

theburning
05-26-2004, 04:56 PM
well...I think we have decided on no zombies!!

but thankfully for you, the fine print reads 'unless your name is grigri9'

Snarr
05-26-2004, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by theburning
well...I think we have decided on no zombies!!

but thankfully for you, the fine print reads 'unless your name is grigri9' I thought we said all grigri's ranging from 5-12.

-EDIT-
Now look what you made me do! I'm post whoring my own thread! Cease and decease!

grigri9
05-26-2004, 05:02 PM
I understood that 12 * 3 is 36 Snarr but why should it be set to a defined number and why 36? It seems pretty arbitrary to me.

Snarr
05-26-2004, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by grigri9
I understood that 12 * 3 is 36 Snarr but why should it be set to a defined number and why 36? It seems pretty arbitrary to me.
That's not what I was poiting out, I was pointing out the last bit: Numbers may vary according to demand.

Cause that gives 22 games per month which is reasonable and we wanted to do 3 divisons. Though I really don't see why this troubles you be there need and we will change the figure.

Asmodeus
05-26-2004, 05:07 PM
Times like these I wish I was a gold and there wasnt so many rules that greys can't participate in such activities.

Snarr
05-26-2004, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by Asmodeus
Times like these I wish I was a gold and there wasnt so many rules that greys can't participate in such activities.

Well we are tyring to see who are the best gold, and that may be a little hard for greys to do.

theburning
05-26-2004, 05:11 PM
Times like these I wish I was a gold and there wasnt so many rules that greys can't participate in such activities.

Times like these you SHOULD go gold

kyrios24
05-26-2004, 05:17 PM
Times like these, you should just assume that I'm the best gold (since I'm not one right now, we can't really check) and everyone competes for second-best. Yeah, I like that plan.

I miss being gold...:(

TONY387
05-26-2004, 05:20 PM
sigh me up
tony887
:)

xyxaxyz2
05-26-2004, 05:25 PM
I miss being gold...

Come back.

blazedaces
05-26-2004, 07:47 PM
Dam it, I want back in Rev for this thing, I have no idea why I'm not there, this pisses me off to all hell.

theburning
05-26-2004, 09:19 PM
email DR and remind him to give you rev. access.

Megabyte
05-26-2004, 09:25 PM
I'm in if there are still spots available.

*glances evily at ppl running it*
puttin this in Gd...i had no idea it was here...I don't come to this section

thrdflrmshr
05-26-2004, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by Snarr
Cease and decease!
I think the phrase is "Cease and desist." But decease works well, too.

Spyke72
05-26-2004, 09:54 PM
Phoo! Good thing Megabyte caught this, otherwise I would have missed it! Sign me up, please!:)

theburning
05-26-2004, 10:58 PM
megabyte caught this?

cuz...please inform him of how you 'found' this.

Darque
05-26-2004, 11:43 PM
After much convinceing..I've decided I'd enter this league.

Sign me up.

theburning
05-26-2004, 11:52 PM
loveisred is in

DKR
05-27-2004, 04:52 AM
How many spots left?

I reserve 3 slots for 3 Netjak'ers

Snarr
05-27-2004, 04:54 AM
Right guys 5 things:

1) This requires some sort of dedication and that has to come voluntairly, if you need to be conviced then maybe you'd want to rethink if you really want to do it.

2) The first go will be a test with 8 players per league. So for now really don't worry about spots left - it's like a beta if you will, and I'm hoping for s ohrter period cause there are less games to be played. Need there be I guess we could have a 4th division.

3) You would need to register for yourself, for at least it shown you have read the thread. On top of that, it will all be running through the forums, and game arrangments are best done by PMs. So if someone for a reason cannot access the this thread or send and recieve PM's (does not need to be an active poster) then again maybe he should rethink.

4) Megabyte I can fix this, I'll put an announcement in the Rev forums.

5) That was intentional Third Floor.

DKR
05-27-2004, 05:05 AM
Heh only playing with you Snarr ;)

The Netjaks have all been informed about this so we will prob be in there ;)

Snarr
05-27-2004, 05:10 AM
Originally posted by DKR
Heh only playing with you Snarr ;)

The Netjaks have all been informed about this so we will prob be in there ;)

I didn't even see your post actually, you were posting while I was writing, and it took me more then 2 minutes.

Also thank, I appreciate you getting people.

Duffman
05-27-2004, 05:29 AM
Hey thats a pretty good idea... Hopefully it'll still be going when i go gold and I can work my way in.

Whats with the name though... the Grand League... pssssht...

iron-rain
05-27-2004, 11:41 AM
*EDIT* I cant do that i wont be here for it.
sorry for the wasted post.

Draquist
05-27-2004, 01:05 PM
Let me in on the League please

cheeseman
05-27-2004, 01:09 PM
Hi-jack in process. .

Shouldn't this thread be moved under "The Rev Server" or wherever that is? Or that gold server thingy.

theburning
05-27-2004, 01:20 PM
The reason it isn't posted in the revelation server is because many golds do not have forum access there.

I believe that snarr is going to post something there as well though.

Darque
05-27-2004, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by Snarr


1) This requires some sort of dedication and that has to come voluntairly, if you need to be conviced then maybe you'd want to rethink if you really want to do it.


Obviously directed at me...well..I am dedicated to what I commit myself to..In the previous tournament I was always one've the first done in most've the rounds and if not the first..close to it on the first day.

But yes..It did take some convinceing to get me to enter this..why?..well because I dont believe it proves anything..and is for nothing..I personally don't care if people believe I am the best..worst..or anything between..

Your right..maybe I shouldnt enter..I simply dont see the point of this league..its being played for nothing..and proveing nothing..I wasn't playing to prove anything to anyone..or try and prove I am a good player..i simply was playing to represent my clan and server..but there will be others to fill my slot..take my name off I suppose..

Bottle
05-27-2004, 02:29 PM
And in an effort to restore credibility to the Revelation server, a league is set up in which the best player in the tournament does not enter.

Riiiiiiight......

Darque
05-27-2004, 02:37 PM
If thats how they want it man..so be it..

but that was my point from the start..in order for this league to prove something..the best players from all servers have to enter..and that simply isnt going to happen. Sorry if im being a negative nancy (:D ) but thats just how things are..

DKR
05-27-2004, 02:44 PM
Pfft you just obviously dont want a challenge. Snarr has spoken of why this proves something, it proves your skill. One off games in a tournament prove your a good player but not how good. This league means you will get to fight everyone around your level of skill where as in a tournament you wouldnt.

Dont whine and just join the league and fight you 'nancy' :P

There is no harm behind it

Office_Shredder
05-27-2004, 02:56 PM
You know what? I personally don't care if those stuck-up SI guys don't play in this because it doesn't get them something... it's that kind of attitude that has killed rev in the first place, the unwillingness to work hard for a rating there too, due to the belief that it doesn't count for as much.

Well let me tell you something, if you want to hide in banff, so be it, however, those of us willing to be in this for FUN are going to have a hell of a time I bet.

Darque
05-27-2004, 03:15 PM
...I believe ive proved I can play by now..theres no need to prove it any further by beating a few second tier golds(I know there are a few good players who have entered and this wasnt meant to insult anyone)..wheres stiltz..aro..X..Ravus..Mel..A prize isnt what im after..its competition man..if this league isnt going to have the best of the best...I see no point in joining it. Complain about me being an arrogant prick all you want..but I refuse to join a league..where I could get better competition playing my own clan mates.

Taostuart_chant
05-27-2004, 03:18 PM
could i please join the league

DKR
05-27-2004, 03:31 PM
I like how he only mentions other SI's as being good and no one else :rolleyes:

Dont be too modest, geeze -.-'

Office_Shredder
05-27-2004, 03:31 PM
darque, someone needs to be the first "tier one" player as you put it.... otherwise you'll all shied from it simply because it isn't up to your level of competition.

And I'm betting if you join you'll get good enough competition either way.... at least I'll be there to throw a loss your way every now and then ;)

Snarr
05-27-2004, 03:49 PM
You are getting on the defensive when I didn't attack you. If you don't want to play no is forcing you, but if you think this proves nothing then you are wrong on more then one level. Did you actually read the first post or just sign up? I won't continue this any further, you are free to do as you will, but if you decide to join later you will have to climb up from the bottom.

The belief that there won't be a prize is wrong, the first one is a test run and won't have a prize but there after there will be. But really if you are merely joining this for the prize then you are joining for the wrong reason.

theburning
05-27-2004, 03:53 PM
agreed.

dont listen to darque...he's just grumpy today.

Darrington
05-27-2004, 04:00 PM
The Other Darque is still in. And stoked.

And he also thinks that anyone, after reading this thread and reading the names on here, that still does not wish to enter who could, is not entering not from lack of competition - but from too much.

You lot - Aro23r, Darque, Stiltz, etc... - enter, and defend your reputation, otherwise the reputation will drop.

Consider it a challenge. *smirks*

Office_Shredder
05-27-2004, 04:01 PM
I would suggest you edit out the thing about the prize (then edit this of course), so all these guys who just want to play for a prize don't line up then leave you hanging once they've lost too many games to get one...

xyxaxyz2
05-27-2004, 04:03 PM
I'm in, BTW.

Baeoin
05-27-2004, 04:28 PM
I'd like to take part in it.

Bottle
05-27-2004, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by Office_Shredder
You know what? I personally don't care if those stuck-up SI guys don't play in this because it doesn't get them something... it's that kind of attitude that has killed rev in the first place, the unwillingness to work hard for a rating there too, due to the belief that it doesn't count for as much.

Well let me tell you something, if you want to hide in banff, so be it, however, those of us willing to be in this for FUN are going to have a hell of a time I bet.

Stuck up?

Well, I really want to enter this, but as you know I may not be able to, depending on when it starts. Don't say that SI won't enter because they're stuck up.

I think Darque, Big X and Draq will all join. The other SIs aren't on enough to play the necessary 22 games. Therein lies the problem; a tournament is good for good part-time players, and a league is good for the good regulars. That is the point, pure and simple.

Oh and a suggestion, which I have already mentioned to Snarr; how about, since we play each other twice, we have a *home* game and an *away* game, where the home team gets the first turn? If one player got the first turn randomly both times, he would just pass the second time. This would even things out, if people were honourable enough to stick to this rule.

Snarr
05-27-2004, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by theburning
dont listen to darque...he's just grumpy today.

Well he is thinking that he is the only one with something to lose, but really thats like a sportsman winning one competition quitting so no one can beat him.

Bottle we will take your suggestion.

By the way, the first run is standing on 14 games, not 22.

Office_Shredder
05-27-2004, 05:09 PM
bottle, I wasn't referring to you when I made my last post, I know you want to be in it. I was referring to those who have severe doubts about this, and as such aren't entering.

I like the idea of a home and away game, EXCEPT.... people would be able to bomb easier if they know they're going first...

Snarr
05-27-2004, 05:12 PM
It will go by Alphabetical order, whoever is lower will get to start first game. Besides if you know he goes first, don't play something susptible to a bomb.

But guys don't get ahead of yourself, there are about 10 rules and regulations I didn't put there which I will.

Anyway can we keep the conflicts to the arena and not here for the time being.

Mike the Mauler
05-27-2004, 06:20 PM
OK, I'm in - someone needs to be on the bottom!

My name, however, is MadMike.

Megabyte
05-27-2004, 06:57 PM
hey hey...don't get down on us that are in it for the prize man!

Its a nice motivating factor. If your in it for the pure competition...well, this is a nice means of organizing it, but you can play any gold you can coordinate with on Rev anyways. Just sayin it like I see it :)

besides, you don't know whether the prize is nothing more than a"kudos," so don't be getting down on us motivated by it yet.
(I like kudos :D)

Office_Shredder
05-27-2004, 07:14 PM
I wasn't referring to people who are motivated by the prize, but those who join ONLY for the prize... because they'll stop showing up to games if they aren't in contention halfway through.... we all know how that works....

SalNaea
05-28-2004, 03:57 AM
Owh come on.. that you guys don't get madly frustrated by his posts
Darque you're a joke *sigh*

My apologies if this will lead to conflicts or whatever.. but his posts.. *sigh*

and as for the tourny.. i'd like to be in.. snarr just have to buy me a gold account.. ;)


WaCk-HeAd

Darque
05-28-2004, 09:40 AM
..As for me only mentioning SI players..thats true..i did mention a few..but I also mentioned a few from other servers completely..

I was having an bit've a bad day yesterday, as Theburning knew, and let it get to me when I was posting.

...and as for me being a joke...yes..I am a bit arrogant at times..but in no way do I even resemble a "joke".

I already posted I wasn't after a prize..and i'm going to prove it by entering this and defending my reputation. I'm sorry if I insulted anyone and am really hopeing it doesnt lower peoples opinions on me too much.

-Darque

Bottle
05-28-2004, 09:42 AM
Told you Darque would enter:D

theburning
05-28-2004, 09:57 AM
I'm sorry if I insulted anyone and am really hopeing it doesnt lower peoples opinions on me too much.

not TOO much, but slightly :)

Agent_D
05-28-2004, 10:03 AM
I may be too late if this is first come first serve. But count me in.

xyxaxyz2
05-28-2004, 10:25 AM
The more people the better.

DKR
05-28-2004, 01:15 PM
You didnt insult me Darque, you just came over as being very ignorant :/

And well I do not know you enough to have anything lower or higher of you, but that apoligy (Cant spell that word -.-') has been noted by myself. Takes some courage to say something like that ;)

Serge
05-28-2004, 05:22 PM
Man, I wish I was gold...

Why would you guys doubt Darque's being in this? He wouldn't never let a chance to brag get away from him, which isn't neccesarily a bad thing on a gaming forum...

Yeah, OS would get put on the bottom league, I mean, second place in the tourney, how pathetic...

Darrington
05-28-2004, 10:16 PM
Ya man, 2nd place DOES suck. even *I* did better than that. ;)

And I think if anyone has a right to be cocky, its Darque. In fact, I dont think we have enough pig headed egotistical punks in these forums. If this isnt changed soon, I might have to become one myself... Even if I do get 'humbled' quite often.

As far as Darque goes... Kudos to him. Just wait. hes gonna go in and show EVERYONE whos boss. Whose boss? Hes your boss. Whatever that means.

Um...

*goes off to steal more weed from his parents* scuse me. I have... business to attend to.

SalNaea
05-29-2004, 03:58 AM
Originally posted by Darrington
Ya man, 2nd place DOES suck. even *I* did better than that. ;)

And I think if anyone has a right to be cocky, its Darque. In fact, I dont think we have enough pig headed egotistical punks in these forums. If this isnt changed soon, I might have to become one myself... Even if I do get 'humbled' quite often.

As far as Darque goes... Kudos to him. Just wait. hes gonna go in and show EVERYONE whos boss. Whose boss? Hes your boss. Whatever that means.

Um...

*goes off to steal more weed from his parents* scuse me. I have... business to attend to.

Lol i couldn't disagree more..
and as for Darque.. DKR is right about your apology.. owh well i think things have changed that much since you joined SI.. i just hope i can arrange something to be in that League and show you that not everything has changed :rolleyes:

WaCk-HeAd

bludhoundz
05-29-2004, 04:05 AM
I'm in.

Darque
05-29-2004, 09:50 AM
:) Well..thanks Darrington for justifying my actions lol..

and as for these sudden challenges..im looking forward to them..I hear challenges like these everyday but the outcome lately has always been the same :)..I truthfully dont think ive changed much since netjak..ive always been arrogant..now..i just have a reason to be. SI really isnt an arrogant clan and I feel like im representing them badly now, Bottle and I are the only two I can think of who act arrogant on a daily basis..but again, I think we've always earned that right to be cocky every once in awhile at this point..it makes us look bad...but we can back up what we say.

Bottle
05-29-2004, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by Darque
Bottle and I are the only two I can think of who act arrogant on a daily basis..

:D

Office_Shredder
05-29-2004, 02:20 PM
I don't act arrogant on a daily basis? Fascinating.... you guys must be super duper arrogant for me to not be as arrogant as you... :p

Snarr
05-29-2004, 03:16 PM
Guys don't turn this into a conversation thread.

Anyway, I'm hoping to start first ound as soon as the French Open will finish because right now it's occupying over 7 hours a day.

Lordofzrings
05-29-2004, 06:08 PM
Im in if its not 2 late

Noda
05-30-2004, 09:44 AM
il jagoin, my mom hasnt been letting me on *kinda crazy* but once schools over i can become a tac feind full time

Serge
05-30-2004, 11:14 AM
If you're online so much that your mom is worried, you would think your typing skills would improve...

SalNaea
05-30-2004, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by Darque
I hear challenges like these everyday

I think we've always earned that right to be cocky every once in awhile at this point...

First I think i feel insulted to be told that i'm just an everyday challenge.. but i'll leave it at that.. and further more you haven't earned the right to be cocky towards me.. i won't claim that it's the other way around because that was back in netjak and that's a long time ago.. but still.. you still have to earn that right towards me.. lets leave at this and i'll try to find a way to compete if i'm allowed..

and the last thing.. i'll stfu now snarr

WaCk-HeAd

The Prophet
05-31-2004, 04:47 PM
I would like to be a part of this.

Spirit_Knight
05-31-2004, 07:51 PM
So....I want to be in. Sign me up.

Utamaro
05-31-2004, 07:54 PM
I wanna join the League. :) So sign me up please.

Al Caponeoni
05-31-2004, 08:18 PM
I would like to participate.

:D

Krazikarl
06-01-2004, 12:56 AM
Sign me up too please.

sinaku
06-01-2004, 03:38 AM
ill join this aswell so sign me up

cbsurfinggod
06-01-2004, 05:46 AM
i want to be in that grand thing u have on rev with the golds cbsurfinggod

crusafix
06-01-2004, 07:02 AM
im in, the idea sound like fun

*The Nothing*
06-01-2004, 07:30 AM
Count me in, on this awesome idea! I want to prove my worthyness.......hehe.

Itzphill
06-01-2004, 07:42 AM
count me in this sounds really fun. i missed the signups 4 the last 1 :(

Stiltz
06-01-2004, 07:48 AM
Stiltz is in this bitch. Keep it secret... keep it safe...

cbsurfinggod
06-01-2004, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by cbsurfinggod
i want to be in that grand thing u have on rev with the golds cbsurfinggod i'm in a clan that is 25 gold members strong and i want to be in it to prove my self to the clan that i'm really good to be in a clan

Bottle
06-01-2004, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by cbsurfinggod
i want to be in that grand thing u have on rev with the golds cbsurfinggod

Originally posted by cbsurfinggod
i want to be in that grand thing u have on rev with the golds cbsurfinggod

Your titles say Junior members... you can't join the league unless you are gold. If you are gold and not upgraded on the forums yet, check out the upgrade thread on the Gold Account Help forum.

Utamaro
06-01-2004, 12:08 PM
Don't forget me I want in on this :)

nads
06-01-2004, 01:04 PM
I posted one of the first replies to this thread, so if you have me already, cool, if you thought I was joking, I wasn't. Please put me in the lowest league possible, as I don't think I can compete at the highest level anymore, but I still want to play. I'm kind of like Magic Johnson. I could still bring it to the hoop in a Saturday morning game at the YMCA, but don't put me on the court in the NBA against Shaq, cause I'm getting a little old.

nads
06-01-2004, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by Snarr
OK that is a total misconception you have there OS. The mere fact of being in any division already shows skill. There is no lower division; there is 1 top division, a second division and a third division. There are about 1000 golds, only 36 will be allowed in, so merely being in is already a show of skill.

Anyway like written, it will be decided by ranking on revelation for the first round, and if this isn't your level then you will move up or down accordingly.

Wow, ok then, this applies to me as well. Hey, I honestly believe that if I were to put all my effort into getting into the top ranks on Rev I could do it, but I just don't have that kind of time anymore. If there are people above me who want in, I see how the rules are set up, and I understand they deserve a place in the league over myself. I just plan to smack a few of the competitors around during the off season to keep everyone humble :)

UNDFan31990
06-01-2004, 01:54 PM
ill join....

Shadowmyst
06-01-2004, 03:02 PM
I'll join too.

Lordofzrings
06-01-2004, 03:20 PM
im in

max2k106
06-01-2004, 03:21 PM
i'll join, although i was gold at first, then cancelled and moved to legends for about a month, i'm coming back to TAO and re-ordered my gold account today

eldee
06-01-2004, 04:14 PM
i want in pm me plz if i am accepted

Punishment Co.
06-01-2004, 04:20 PM
I'll join if this is still open.

xyxaxyz2
06-01-2004, 05:31 PM
We aren't closing until 11:59 EST wed. All signups until then will be accepted.

Nads, does this mean you're out of the league?
eldee, no one is going to PM you. You are in.

Office_Shredder
06-01-2004, 05:40 PM
I think nads is complaining that his rating isn't high enough to get in.... but I believe it isn't rating only that determines who goes where, right?

xyxaxyz2
06-01-2004, 05:59 PM
No, in fact rating doesn't really matter much at all, the tourn leaders are deciding placement based on known skill.

Darque
06-01-2004, 06:04 PM
Hi...somethings wrong with the forums were i cant log onto my forum name so im signing up on Darques name

Count me in.

xyxaxyz2
06-01-2004, 06:07 PM
I already have you on the list Draquist.

Here is the current list:

Darrington
Bottle
Hugh Junit
Anarchy1
Rogue_Wolf
MokoToko
FryLock
thrdflrmshr
Jiggabu
Office_Shredder
plusminus
Only_Option
Dark*Demon
Cavour
blazedaces
Megabyte
Spyke72
paulk6
grigri9
TONY387
Darque
DKR
Draquist
Taostuart_chant
Baeoin
MadMike
Agent_D
bludhoundz
Lordofzrings
Noda
The Prophet
Spirit_Knight
Utamaro
Al Caponeoni
Krazikarl
sinaku
cbsurfinggod
crusafix
*The Nothing*
Itzphill
Stiltz
UNDFan31990
Shadowmyst
Lordofzrings
eldee

If there is a problem with this list, just post here.
We are still letting more people in.

Bottle
06-01-2004, 06:19 PM
I thought you said 36 people only? Or will the leagues be extended, or will there be more leagues?

nads
06-01-2004, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by xyxaxyz2
Nads, does this mean you're out of the league?


This means, if there are good players who want in more than I do, put them in before me. If there seems to be a lack of real talent, then I guess I'll play but I don't think I have what it takes anymore to finish anywhere near the top, although I can name 10 of the people in already I am confident I could beat 9 out of 10 games. But anyways, everyone listed looks like they want it more than I do. If my situation ever changes, I'll boost my rank up on revelations and show some sort of effort.

Although, making a little league sounds fun too. Yeah, you should make a "Little League" too, for the people who want in but are maybe too new to be initially placed on the list. top 3 from the little league bumps the bottom player in each league out of his league. That's the one you should call Triple A Buffalo.

Ohhh ohhh I just had another idea! We could make a fantasy TAO league and get all crazy into it like some of those fantasy league guys that hang out in sports bars and memorize stats are!

xyxaxyz2
06-01-2004, 06:42 PM
I thought you said 36 people only? Or will the leagues be extended, or will there be more leagues?

We are thinking of having 4 leagues possibly. We aren't going to kick out anyone who signs before the closing date.

This means, if there are good players who want in more than I do, put them in before me.

We want more good players though, not less. :) As long as you can play the required number of games per month, we want you in.

nads
06-01-2004, 06:46 PM
I want to play in the minors first, then get called up :)

ck1
06-01-2004, 07:17 PM
im in.


^_^

Wolfman
06-01-2004, 08:19 PM
Hey guys..... i want in too plz..... btw.... can i hv the first bite??? or can someone plz bite me.....hehehehe

wolfy
<_outkast_>
army
rev
legends


***snarr..
1. can u do me a favor by posting this in our outkast forum??? visit our forum sometime... dam.. u r still a leader there..
2. can u post the league bracket there too???

Flowne00
06-01-2004, 08:58 PM
Hey i just wanted to post that i am in. :D :D

Warcow
06-01-2004, 09:20 PM
Well Snarr kudos for putting something like this together and I wish I was coming back soon enough to be in the first one, but I probably wont be back Until sometime in July and I will hopefully join the second one. This is proabably one of the coolest Idea's put forth since TAO came out, and if you guys pull it off I will be seriously impressed. BTW The Elite needs some representation In here, even though we kinda died.

Warcow
06-01-2004, 09:22 PM
Incedentaly I think Im the oldest gold to post in here, does that give me senority When I come back? ;)

Logic
06-01-2004, 10:37 PM
I'll join in :) Give me games to play and I'll play em, but Im not sure what my schedule will be this summer exactly (will be in Spain).

I started 3rd day Warcow, so I would be pretty close to u :) I don't think I went gold for 3 or 4 days tho.

FryLock
06-01-2004, 10:40 PM
I know I said I was maybe in before...but now I think I can definitely do it. To warn you, it will involve some communication with my opponents, since I'm only going to have a few hours any given day where I can access the 'net for any extended period. If that's acceptable, sign me up.

muggin
06-02-2004, 04:20 AM
mesa is in as muggin muahahahahahahahahaha

be prepared to face my rath

Ark Knight
06-02-2004, 09:22 AM
Count me IN!!! Woohoo!!!! Oh yeah... Logic.... You've been gone for one heck of a long time!

resurgent247
06-02-2004, 10:18 AM
count me in, after about an hour of gathering info I understand it

[-Dr@gon-]Ghost
06-02-2004, 12:23 PM
I want to sign up as me!

Warcow
06-02-2004, 01:26 PM
Yo resurg long time no See man, can you send me a PM about the clan?

Yuratart1
06-02-2004, 01:39 PM
Ok....i will grace this league with my presence

Thanks you

*Gets carried away by peasants as i get fanned*

aaah so nice

lorddroggnan
06-02-2004, 02:43 PM
hey i want to try this out if thats ok can i join i do have a gold account but im rusty cuz i havent played in a while.

Matrix Master
06-02-2004, 02:58 PM
Sounds real fun ill join but not as matrix master ill join as soul of darkness. thanks snarr

wildismeo2
06-02-2004, 04:02 PM
may i join the league

Brendandk
06-02-2004, 04:21 PM
This is Pancho54 from army server, i would like in please. Thank you

***Duo***
06-02-2004, 04:49 PM
im totally in....after missing the last tourney...and this one being more fair...well...im totally in...if its alright... ;)

Longshooter
06-02-2004, 05:19 PM
im in

xyxaxyz2
06-02-2004, 09:41 PM
TAO League singup is now officially closed.

Warcow
06-02-2004, 10:10 PM
Damn I missed, I was gonna say i want in, I came back early cuz resurg did.

xyxaxyz2
06-02-2004, 10:31 PM
You're in. No one else after this is though.

Warcow
06-02-2004, 10:42 PM
Sweet thank you

Snarr
06-03-2004, 06:52 AM
Registration is closed indeed but worry not, you can enter the next round, I will open registration for round 2 soon.

Megabyte
06-04-2004, 01:42 PM
Myriad of comments/questions after reading ur rule info...

Sorry if any of these hav been mentioned but i'm too lazy to read through ALL the posts here.

in section 3.9 could u please redefine "lower alaphabetical" order? Its less than clear using those words, and will cause confusion.

What happens if a player refuses to play matches against some of his opponents, for whatever reasons?

How will you be determining who gets to join into the league at the end of rounds?

Bottle
06-04-2004, 03:24 PM
I would just like to point out that I hate my scouts. League reduces the importance of luck, you say? Hah.

Snarr
06-04-2004, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by Megabyte
in section 3.9 could u please redefine "lower alaphabetical" order? Its less than clear using those words, and will cause confusion.
Done and done.


Originally posted by Megabyte
What happens if a player refuses to play matches against some of his opponents, for whatever reasons?
We will judge case by case, but generally if it isn't played by the end of the month both parties get no points unless 1 party can proove otherwise.

People who refuse to play for fear of rating drop or whatever shouldn't be joining really.

Originally posted by Megabyte
How will you be determining who gets to join into the league at the end of rounds?
We still have a whole month to formulate our policy for that, don't rush us! :)

Serge
06-04-2004, 06:20 PM
I was looking over your rules and such... and I think that the loser should report the match results, not many people are going to lie about not winning...

Snarr
06-04-2004, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by Serge
I was looking over your rules and such... and I think that the loser should report the match results, not many people are going to lie about not winning...

They would be risking a ban form league, plus the loser could say, why should I bother, I lost anyway.

Serge
06-04-2004, 06:36 PM
...meh...I guess you're right...but...it was a good idea nontheless...whatever...

TONY387
06-04-2004, 06:42 PM
um why did i not get in
sorry if it said somewhere in the last 6 pages i just dont have to time to read all of them

xyxaxyz2
06-04-2004, 06:44 PM
We statted you but couldn't find you on rev and didn't have time to pm you. If you tell us your name you can probably enter next round.

TONY387
06-05-2004, 09:47 AM
o sorry about my fourm name. my gold is tony887

Snarr
06-05-2004, 10:52 AM
Right it's our fault actually, we should have assumed to mupltiply the number at the end by 2.292 it's simply is the natural thing to do.

Bottle
06-05-2004, 01:28 PM
BURN!

Edit:

GOD DAMN SCOUTS! BLOCK!!!

MokoToko
06-05-2004, 03:16 PM
...how do we tell u when we win? by PM....sry i looked but couldnt find ti anywhere

xyxaxyz2
06-05-2004, 03:50 PM
As mentioned in the rules (http://www.tacticsarena.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8546):

3.4 Games results are to be reported by the winner only to the league leader as soon as possible, to allow time to process them. Reports will be done by emails to taoleague@hotmail.com and in the following format (or resembling that):

Snarr Vs. Punishment Co.
Group A
Winner: Snarr (specify home or away game)

Most importantly, is to have your group as your subject, so it is easy for us to organise.

tommy6363
06-05-2004, 04:28 PM
is it to late so sign up i've just been serving the forums and saw this thread.

theburning
06-05-2004, 04:33 PM
its too late to sign up for round 1 because it is currently taking place.

however, round 2 signups will begin soon !

paulk6
06-05-2004, 04:46 PM
What does it mean by home or away game?

-EDIT Never mind, I found it.

tony887
06-05-2004, 05:40 PM
there i made a new fourm name so I dont mess up with my name again.

paulk6
06-05-2004, 06:14 PM
I'm so proud, I'm 2 for 2! Of course, I'm in league G. Stop laughing...

Snarr
06-05-2004, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by tony887
there i made a new fourm name so I dont mess up with my name again.

So we should expect your game name now to be tony2033 now right?

tony887
06-05-2004, 09:06 PM
sorry that i posted with the wroung name but if you look at the first post on page 5 i did say that my name was tony887

Bottle
06-05-2004, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by Snarr
So we should expect your game name now to be tony2033 now right?

DOUBLE BURN!

tony887
06-06-2004, 06:48 AM
yes bottle i got burned because no one ead my post just the name i posted with.

Cavour
06-06-2004, 10:37 AM
I lost one damnit...

im PISSED... :)

paulk6
06-06-2004, 10:39 AM
Me too :mad: Now I'm 2 for 3. How sad :(

Baeoin
06-06-2004, 10:44 AM
If the format of our match reports happens to be in some way incorrect (like I didnt put my league in the subject line) is there some way i should correct it, or did I just make it uneededly harder for the organizers?

xyxaxyz2
06-06-2004, 10:54 AM
What is vitally important is your name, your opponent's name, and who won. If you get one of those incorrect you should send a correcting email.

It becomes a lot easier if you put your league in the subject, and tell us whether your game was home or away.

Only_Option
06-06-2004, 04:06 PM
Snarr. For future refrences, organization**

References* woops ;D

xyxaxyz2
06-06-2004, 04:07 PM
Only in the USA....

Only_Option
06-06-2004, 04:12 PM
xyx, its cause were cool like that ;D

Megabyte
06-08-2004, 10:59 PM
Er...your scoring for group D needs some adjustment.

You don't have me listed in one side, and have grigri9 instead.
Also, my own scoring area is off. The number of wins is moderately right, but the opponents matching is off. I havn't played wildismeo2 yet; those 2 wins go against pancho54. You have X's marked under his name for me.

EDIT: pm'ed my cuz about it, but i don't think i mentioned the fact i wasn't listed on one side.

Snarr
06-09-2004, 08:35 AM
Fixed I believe?

Megabyte
06-09-2004, 08:17 PM
woot, nicely done, like the updated stuff

All your guy's hard work on the league is noticed and appreciated by all I'm sure :D

plusminus
06-09-2004, 09:53 PM
Snarr: I just have to say, being a fan of text-mode things that actually line up properly, that I love the work you did on those charts in the sticky. Love them. Very nice work.

Oh yeah, and the actual league is going well too.

/yeah it's super nerdy... so?

EDIT: I'm sorry, it looks like it was theburning that made the graphs? Whoever did them, good job.

2ND EDIT to avoid double-posting: Stuart_chant and I have only played one game, in which I won... my scores are right but his say he beat me our second game...

Snarr
06-09-2004, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by plusminus
Snarr: I just have to say, being a fan of text-mode things that actually line up properly, that I love the work you did on those charts in the sticky. Love them. Very nice work.

Oh yeah, and the actual league is going well too.

/yeah it's super nerdy... so?

EDIT: I'm sorry, it looks like it was theburning that made the graphs? Whoever did them, good job.

2ND EDIT to avoid double-posting: Stuart_chant and I have only played one game, in which I won... my scores are right but his say he beat me our second game...

I did them. :D I even made a program to make them, so we don't have to make them all manually, considering the first one took me 2 hours to make. Thanks :D

We'll fix the error,
Originally posted by Megabyte
woot, nicely done, like the updated stuff

All your guy's hard work on the league is noticed and appreciated by all I'm sure :D

Thanks a lot :D This is really nice to know, especially since it's such a pain. It's theburning that keeps everything updated and thats very painful too, I keep telling her to update every 3 days, but she does it 5 times a day. It's great that she can help, I could never do it alone.

MokoToko
06-16-2004, 07:54 PM
So far im 7-2-0 thats a pretty respectable score i got there :D

cheeseman
06-17-2004, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by TONY387
sigh me up
tony887
:)

ITS RIGHT HERE YOU POOR, BLIND AND UNABLE-TO-READ FOOLS. Don't flame the kid for something he doesn't deserve.

And don't blame him for SOMEONE ELSE'S fault of not knowing how-to-read posts.....

DKR
06-17-2004, 01:00 PM
I'm 8-1-2 I believe. Not bad for only being a gold for a week ^_^

Hey I'm also at the top of the table too O.o'

theburning
06-17-2004, 04:14 PM
We never blamed him for anything.
However, why would you make your name anything other than what your server name is? its just asking for confusion.

Snarr
06-17-2004, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by theburning
We never blamed him for anything.
However, why would you make your name anything other than what your server name is? its just asking for confusion.

I do blame him, if it's something that unoticable like an 8 at the end instead of a 3 then he is to make sure we see it. With 100 applications and around the 60 places any obstacle on the way is ground to disqualification and it's up to him to make sure there are none.

You knoz what if it was Bony887 instead of Tony887 thats easy to notice but if the number is different if not going to compare it.

Anyway having said that, I don't know why you bring this up, its 2 weeks old.

theburning
06-17-2004, 05:58 PM
I didn't bring it up!
Mr. Cheesman did !

Snarr
06-17-2004, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by theburning
I didn't bring it up!
Mr. Cheesman did !

Yeah I was talking to him...
Though it wasn't evident I guess.

RIDDICK
12-06-2004, 10:56 PM
I'm in.

Bottle
12-07-2004, 07:18 AM
Hello? This finished about 3 months ago. You might want to try the other Revelaton Grand League thread, stickied at the top of GD.

Blexican
12-07-2004, 08:19 AM
lol... like the announsment said "read the date"

orlandy
09-22-2005, 06:24 AM
im in. oh and i cna definatly be there now *no little messed up things to keep me away.* what? sticky at gd.. *and damn it i knew there was reasons i hate these fourms* lol

EleMENTAL
09-22-2005, 09:12 AM
:confused: im in. oh and i cna definatly be there now *no little messed up things to keep me away.* what? sticky at gd.. *and damn it i knew there was reasons i hate these fourms* lol
:confused:

orlandy
09-22-2005, 06:47 PM
ok, i know my above post means little sense.. posted it while i was a little.... under the influence of other things lol, at any rate i ment to edit it and say damn it i know why i hate these fourms now becuase the thread is about 3 months old and me posting that i wanna be in just sorta.. doesnt mean shit right? lol ok then now i dont look like a complete ass.

Jeffery
09-22-2005, 07:02 PM
You don't?

banditto
09-22-2005, 07:58 PM
Since when is bottle back?

Hatchet Warrior
09-22-2005, 10:13 PM
Since I went to his house and made him play.