Definition of a mage bomb?

[MokoToko]

Is it considered a mage bomb if person A has a DSM at the front but without any pyros/DMW in his/her formation? of course they also have a dragon and other various units of no reall importance to the discussion

[blazedaces]

It takes no skill to use a DSM.

[abyaly]

Originally posted by blazedaces
It takes no skill to use a DSM.
it takes no skill to use a [insert the name of any unit here]
unless you want to use it right

[clay]

lol but i think 90% of the golds use a bomb. Its easy, doesnt take long, and wupps ass ! end of story.

[Cavour]

That is the most innacurate guess Ive ever heard on these forums.

[blazedaces]

it takes no skill to use a [insert the name of any unit here]
unless you want to use it right

What exactly are you saying? That if the person isn't using a unit "right" then he's not using skill when using it? How obvious of a statement can you people make? You might have well said it takes no skill to use any unit when you're not using skill in using it.

[paulk6]

Yeah, Mokochino, it's a bomb. Everybody call him Mokochino now.

[Cavour]

Is that how you spell that? :p

Call me Cavachino from now on too... It makes me sound tough...

[wet]

cool

[Serge]

It takes skill to use a DSM. It takes skill to mage bomb properly. It doesn't take much skill, but I'm sure a person who has only played the game a few times, and sucked at it, couldn't win using a mage bomb.

Using a mage bomb is like using a preset "idiot checkmate" in chess, it's not your strategy, you didn't make it, you just follow what you've seen. It takes skill to win a match after using, and failing, to do an idiot checkmate, and you lose respect for doing it.

If you use a DSM and one or two pyros, I wouldn't consider it a mage bomb. Now if you used a couple DSM'd pyros and a witch or two in a rush, that's a pyro.

[Al Caponeoni]

Agreed. I don't bomb, but it is a valid strategy.

I think that people who "hate" bombs are the people who cannot defeat one.

Using any unit takes skill. Period.

[Serge]

Al, can ya please pick one banner? Your signature is far too big.

[blazedaces]

I hate mage bombs and I beat them all the time with my formation. It takes no skill to use a mage bomb. What skill is it?! No one ever gives me a response that makes any sense! You're walking ina straight line doing unblockable super high dmg to usually 2 or more units! There is no strategy! Every move you make is the same no matter who you verse, it's nothing but stupidity!

[T3km4n]

Originally posted by Serge
Al, can ya please pick one banner? Your signature is far too big.
it isnt as big as jeffs and we dont say anything to him

[Al Caponeoni]

Eeeeeeegzzaktly.

[clay]

everyone say if they bomb or not. i bomb on rev but it usually does the job for me. I always change it thoguh so noone know which one it will be. who else bombs here?

[Shadowfury333]

It does take skill to bomb, esp. if you want to have your mages survive for more than 1 attack. Skill isn't important for using a move, skill is about being hit by a counter to it and still coming out on top.

BTW Serge, do you mind describing the 'idiot checkmate'.

[xyxaxyz2]

It always takes skill to use any form. Even choosing when and what type of bomb form is a test of skill.

[clay]

its more of strategy then skill don tu think?

[Serge]

I told Jeff his sig was too big.

An idiot checkmate is any combination of moves, that you learned from watching somebody use it on you, that will often give you a checkmate in a few turns when you are playing an oppenent who hasn't seen it before, or who is a newbie to playing chess. If you were the one to make it up that would be fine, but most people use one's that were shown to them as opposesed to actually playing the game with strategy. They are often used in online chess.

So blazed, if you were to attack repetivly with scouts and non-DSMed Pyros, that would be okay, but to attack repetivly with DSMed Pyros takes no skill? I'm not seeing the logic here...

IMO using a mage bomb take skill to win, but less than other strategies, since it's a pre-packaged set-up, and making a good set-up is hard sometimes.

[blazedaces]

You're right Serge. If scouts didn't have LOS to memorize, did 20+ dmg, could attack a possibility of 5 units at a time, didn't have a 2 unit limit, and were considered the base of the entire set up then yes they would take no skill to use.

Edit: I just read your post, how is strategy not one of many skills needed in this game? taking strategy is taking skill.

[Twelve]

*sigh*....

Another bomb thread...

All the complaints in the world won't make it go away. And based on rock, paper, and scissors rule of TAO, I wouldn't reveal too much about what strategies one uses to defeat a bomb because that pretty much reveals your formation to all.

Speaking of a unit that requires no skill to use...how about the stone golem? You just press a button for that one. Considering the impact that the stone golem makes in this game, I would say that this unit has the GREATEST "skill of use" to "impact in game" ratio. Some might say WAY out of balance.


P.S. Oh, and there is no definition of MAGE BOMB. The worse complainers say that a Mage Bomb is when a single mage happens to be on the front line. Many almost wet their pants over just that. But Mage Bombs can also come in the form of a spread, in a condensed rush, and can also be delayed(those are my favorites). Delayed bombs are extremely...gratifiying.

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[Office_Shredder]

My thought on the mage bomb: if you can't handle it, you sux0rs, so stfu and stop hfsing all over the place.
/end sage advice

[MokoToko]

thanks all for the input

[Serge]

IRT blazed: What the hell? I saw text in that last post but I didn't see coherent thought. It takes skill to properly use a mage-bomb and still win if your opponent can fend off your initial rush. (like by using a stonie, good point Twelve) Actually this thread has completely changed my view point on the issue. A mage-bomb is as a viable a strategy as any. It just catches a lot of heat because people need something to fear/hate.

[blazedaces]

Serge, could you perhaps quote where you "didn't see coherent thought"? What exactly are you talking about? I was just saying what you'd have to do to a scout to make it take no strategy to use. Maybe you're not reading what I'm reading. As for the stone golem I might agree somewhat, it does border on being way out of balance.

[Omegus]

Man...i sense some hositlity up in this bitch...time to lighten the moment...*plays soft music*...anyways...my thoughts on bombs are simple...they are a legitimate strategy that requires alt of skill to use effectively after the initial rush...people bitch about them because of their ineptitude to handle them...and even so...if you lose...you lose...same as any lose...no biggie...learn from it...

[Littlemelf]

What's a Mage Bomb?

lol I'm just joking no one call me a noob :)