Help me out : Dual cleric grey forms

[Walrus]

Well i won my 2nd cleric a couple of days ago and it seems a shame to waste him when i dont much like chanties or pyros.

hence, i need some dual cleric forms. preferably non-turtles, i prefer to play over the entire board. also u get extra marks if it looks cool :D

[clay]

i dont know i barely ever use 2 clerics if i am grey. adn i certainley dont use it when im on my gold account.

[*The Nothing*]

However your opinion don't matter now does it, considering your a gold in which i have beaten with my grey account in which you jumped.......... "HateandMalice" That name sound familar?

[BlackSyphon]

Here, it is a new concept to me, but it pulls of wins, I even beat medemia, an amazing player.

see how you like it, inner and outer flanks are protected;)

http://img20.exs.cx/img20/4698/2clericform.jpg

feel free to switch the assassin with a pyro or witch, if so, move it one space to the left or inbetween the BW and chanty. Also, if you are not good with chanties, use another caster but keep it where it is. This is however and advanced form, u must be good to use it.

du:)

[monkus]

That form's the general idea you want, but I usually advise that you get teh scout up a bit, and the assassin's best in the corner against close-turtles. She can move to the middle quickly if she needs to, but it's more effective that way. Also, with the double healing, a witch is more effective, as it's harder to kill her as long as you don't move her in range of the lightning ward. I'd advise something more like this: http://img16.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img16&image=doubleclericform.jpg . It has the knight wall that can be defensive or aggressive, the scout out front to pick on a far away turtle, the barrier ward's a bit closer, and the assassin can sneak into a close turtle when necessary.

[abyaly]

du: - chanty. + DMW. scout in a more offensive position. assassin in range to path block along the wall.
monkus: your clerics are too vulnerable to a flank attack.

[Walrus]

thx guys, syphon i dont think i cud cope with no mage power..i quite like my witch, so id probably replace the chanty with a witch and tweak it ever so slightly :P

monkus
1) u got too many units, even for a gold :P
2) good overall form,but i also like my LW, and 2 clerics + BW leaves u with not much real attack power


might come up with my own creation, who knows..

[BlackSyphon]

I don't think you guys get it... I said it IN my first post, you can exchange some units for others, I myself am not using an assassin, but a witch...

I have indeed reconsidered my scout positoin, I now use it 2 spaces to the right of the BW. Scout in the middle are ideal, but flaking will hurt as scout can easily be knight hacked, even from the front.

monkus: Your assassins movement range is too limited, reposition her. Only a scout and two knights are covering your flank, and that BW position isn't helping, scouts can hit it out of LW range easily, yes knights are there, but a barrier and healing are usually there to back it up.

A diagonal wall on the inside, especially in your case, isn't very smart, they are both still in caster range without LW risk and as a bonus, your opponent can hack at the side of that knight after an LW blast. And if it retreats your enemy just to go through the assassin to get to your clerics.

My assassin postion promotes her to guard the inside flank, and the chanty is there just incase;)

Abyaly has the facts down, but my preferance to a chanty is just me, I do have a witch in there now, inbetween the BW and chanty so it can still get on the inner flank and burn, then just BW it.

du:)

[abyaly]

and du, you are missed in the chat :)

[monkus]

hehe, there go my attemps at making a semi-decent gray formation :P. Meanwhile, I tend to be VERY defensive with a lot of support units to back up a few attacking units(anyone that's battled my gold form knows that), so i guess i made the form more to that belief, where i'd use the barrier ward in the case of a very long duel of two far away turtles, in which case a more protected barrier ward does nothing.

Concerning the flank, if the opponent starts moving there, it's only too easy to shift that way to stop it, especially with teh barrier to protect the clerics a bit from knights. No chanty means that end of duel knight battles will be kinda tough, but the two clerics (if they live) should help.

Also, the assassin is mainly in case your opponent is RIGHT next to you, otherwise she can move pretty quickly to another spot.

And anyway, I'm just trying to give you a basic idea. The great part about TAO is that there are so many ways to create a form. I'm just giving you a basic idea, work off of that through experience, advice, and personal preference.

[BlackSyphon]

I know, and I just gave some pointers, good or bad, all of my forms are very versitile, they can become offensive or defensive quickly, also, if you are putting a BW behind an LW, I know it seems smart to put it 3 spaces behind, but it traps your cleric there, so move it one space up, much more freedom.

I am an unusual person, if I am on the same side as my opponent, I rush in with my stuff, if I am diagonal, I take sniping sprees with my scout, and when they come near him I play defensive and draw them in, then take pot shots with my LW:D

anyway, I will go to IRC chat more often Abyaly:) Just for u;)

[Walrus]

rather than make a new thread, i thought i would bump this old one.

i just got a cleric drop, and everyone says that dual cleric is the way to go...differences being that now i plan to include my chanty, since i love them (ive been enchanted)

soooo, dual cleric form including a chanty.

[Cliche]

Well, it would be tough to have a chanty in a form other than a turtle, since u said u would prefer something other than a turtle. This form was given to me from a friend, he said it works superbly. The double DMW can be switched out with a pyro. Hope you enjoy it.Dual Cleric Form (http://img424.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dualcleric8jj.png)

[Walrus]

i play a turtle nowadays...i just havent bothered editing the year-old posts ^^

[Cliche]

Oh, alright.

[BlackSyphon]

cliche's form reminds me of test4 and how he hacked 4 scouts, 4 knights, 2 cleric and 2 LW. That was one kick ass form...

du

[Cliche]

Who is test4, never heard of him :)

[BlackSyphon]

haha...you are too new to know him, I have been playing since 2003 :p

du

[Lonely Tylenol]

Two Cleric... Two DMW... Grey... Rush... From a friend....

:eek: And I can't see the image!

I wonder who it's from!