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    Wink Sword Guardian

    SWORD GUARDIAN!


    These manifestations are distant cousins to the golems, but instead of dark magic , these biengs were created by light magic. They are often called " living swords" and one can see why!

    These constructs are niether living nor dead/ contraption or being.
    They erily float and protect places or items where their master have placed them. They are not concious of self but are aware of their suroundings and react accordingly.

    Sword Guardian Stats

    HP:48
    POWER:18
    ARMOR:20%
    BLOCKING:0%
    MOVEMENT:2
    RECOVERY:1
    RANGE:2 LOS


    The sword guardian throws its swords at enemies as if they were free floating arms. They are deadly acurate/and very powerful.
    Plus their armor is very sturdy, after all they are made mostly of metal.

    As a special the sword guardian has a focus attack where he plunges his body into the ground (brings a 4 turn recovery)and surounding him on all 4 cardinal directions are shimering swords! he can now move these swords at will and they basicaly act as a separate unit.

    SHIMMERING SWORD STATS:
    HP:0 (1 hit kills them like shrub.)
    POWER:18 blockable
    MOVEMENT:3
    RECOVERY:1

    And basicaly once the sword has either A) attacked a unit B) been attacked by a unit....or C) the sword guardians focus is broken it disapears.

    With scb's suggestions i see this unit as a stall tactician! not only do his swords act like shrubs impeding the enemies path, they also attack!

    I like this unit more with scbs suggestions!
    I may beef hp a bit but it seems well balanced here.

    Here is a 1 on 1 fight between the SG and a knight.

    knight approaches SG and is 2 squares away
    SG plunges itself into ground with special and now has 4 swords around itself.
    knight approaches one of the swords and quikly kills it.
    one of the SG's swords now moves and flanks the knight dealing 14 damage
    knight waits
    another sword flanks knight and deals 14 damage again!
    knight approaches SG and attacks dealing 18 damage
    sword guardian is still in recovery and has no swords surrounding it!
    knight waits
    SG waits
    knight hit SG for 18 damage
    SG now moves 2 squares and again does special! (4 swords now surround unit!)
    Knight waits
    SG uses a side sword and attepts to side hit the knight 40% blocked!
    knight advances and hits front sword
    Another one of SG swords flanks the knight dealing 14 damage.

    knight's hp at 8hp
    SWORD GUARDIANS HP AT 12hp


    Dang SWORD GUARDIAN RULES!
    but even with a scout beside it, pit it against a scout+knight and they would surely lose!

    It trumps a knight though!
    but when focus is broken it is all to easily vulnerable. (makes scouts/ magic users more valuable imo)
    Last edited by bloodreign; 03-06-2007 at 11:07 PM.

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    I like the idea but dont u think the stats are a bit overpowered? 56 HP, 25 armor... No blocking balance it a bit, but if it would be stoned, i dont see many ways to kill it. 21 power is high when the other stats stay the same. Maybe lower the HP? Or even movement?
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    No no, it is balanced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaBoy View Post
    No no, it is balanced.
    How? Before he lowered the HP, it wasnt.
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    Too many 4 movement 2 wait units...

    Slow it down some. I think it should have maybe 2 movement. The small swords are powerful enough.

    I suggest reducing the movement to 2, the wait to 1 and the power (of both the the big sword and the small swords) to 18. That way, it will have a good 5 range with an 18-power attack and the annoyance of forcing the opponent to kill a small sword that comes attacking.
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    You know SCB i think you are on to something!
    I actualy like this unit as a low movement high powered threat!

    I will implement some of your suggestions right away!.. but i will think the others through first. Thnx

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    I've not read all the units yet but this is the best I've come acrost so far.

    I've looked at several of Alabama's suggestions but all of his I looked at where too complicated. This one is neat without being complicated.

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    Well you probably will never be able to read all the units, the list is loooong!

    but thank you for your comments..

    BTW you have the coolest forum name, now i just have to find out what
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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodreign View Post


    Here is a 1 on 1 fight between the SG and a knight.

    knight approaches SG and is 2 squares away
    SG plunges itself into ground with special and now has 4 swords around itself.
    knight approaches one of the swords and quikly kills it.
    one of the SG's swords now moves and flanks the knight dealing 14 damage
    knight waits
    another sword flanks knight and deals 14 damage again!
    knight approaches SG and attacks dealing 18 damage
    sword guardian is still in recovery and has no swords surrounding it!
    knight waits
    SG waits
    knight hit SG for 18 damage
    SG now moves 2 squares and again does special! (4 swords now surround unit!)
    Knight waits
    SG uses a side sword and attepts to side hit the knight 40% blocked!
    knight advances and hits front sword
    Another one of SG swords flanks the knight dealing 14 damage.

    knight's hp at 8hp
    SWORD GUARDIANS HP AT 12hp

    This would take extremly good lucky, because rememeber that the blocking now stacks up. So if the second sword did hit the knight side ways, the chances are it will no hit it again sideways. All thought it is a beautiful unit all around. i like the idea of the swords and i like it how the unit is now balanced out. I wouldn't use this unit, since the GA can easily break the focus of this unit, but it is a nice unit and a really good try. I like it! 9 out of 10 for J00

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    Quote Originally Posted by warkiller View Post
    This would take extremely good luck, because remember that the blocking now stacks up. So if the second sword did hit the knight side ways, the chances are it will no hit it again sideways. All thought it is a beautiful unit all around. i like the idea of the swords and i like it how the unit is now balanced out. I wouldn't use this unit, since the GA can easily break the focus of this unit, but it is a nice unit and a really good try. I like it! 9 out of 10 for J00
    You don't need to be afraid of the GA. It's going to pounding your cleric and getting cut to bits.

    Yes, this is a good unit... it looks a bit much like a unit of mine. but the dark cleric (second version) had its own problems.
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    Dang i'm glad i didn't run my mouth off like an idiot! i though SCB was ganking an idea of mine.....

    turns out he thought of it first and i provided a twist on his concept.... i think i got egg on my face.

    but it is suuuuuure a tasty egg.

    I think this is a unit that can be added to common drops,i think that 2 of these would not be overly powerful, nor 3 nor 4
    Thanx warkiller for pointing that out, i did mess up on the (flanking) of the knight, it would be exteremyly lucky to kill a knight 1 on 1....but not entirely impossible!

    This unit has its weakneses, a scout-ambusher-beast rider- any spellcaster can quikly break the sword guardians focus easily.

    I will re-do my battle sequence soon thanx again warkiller.
    Last edited by bloodreign; 03-12-2007 at 10:28 PM.

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    Actually, with the low recovery, this guarantees a draw against a knight. Against two knights, it will put up a good fight but probably go down. Against a scout, it's helpless. It would beat a pyromancer or witch, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scb View Post
    Actually, with the low recovery, this guarantees a draw against a knight. Against two knights, it will put up a good fight but probably go down. Against a scout, it's helpless. It would beat a pyromancer or witch, though.
    Depends how the pyro or witch would be used. (meaning what unit you use with the pyro)
    Aside from that, if the user of the pyro sucks, then yeah, just summon swords and kill away..

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