Defensive strategy is best.

Haelix · 12-01-2003, 07:36 PM

I'll admit, I'm relatively new to TAO. I've been here for about a week. In that time though, I've garnered a 16-0-0 record on Armageddon, even though I didn't read the instructions before starting my first game. I just mentioned that to show that I might be competent enough to write this.

Basically, I think that the defensive strategy is tops in the non-gold games (i.e. no special units). This is because of the recovery time. It is not possible to move units up to attack simultaneously, however, a properly constructed defensive formation can meet every attacker with many defenders.

Secondly, I think that people underestimate the value of running away. They'll think that a unit that has been severly damaged is dead anyway, and run it up to "at least hurt the opponent" before dying. If they instead ran it back behind the lines, after a few cleric heals, they'll have a fresh unit again.

Thirdly, I thought about fighting an army of 10 properly played knights with my current army, and shuddered at the thought. I think I'd get devastated. They can just deal out damage too quick and are too tough to kill with that 25% armor to stop.

In all of this I could be wrong, and I'm waiting to be enlightened by you, so respond.

Haelix

AzN_GuY · 12-01-2003, 08:25 PM

yea, ten knights... with a few enchantresses, yes

lol, this is where the enchantress would shine. you get even two of those units out there and half the knights are down, with a few support units, the knight army is helpless.

Haelix · 12-01-2003, 08:28 PM

Do you use 2 Enchantresses in your standard army? :]

AzN_GuY · 12-01-2003, 08:30 PM

dont have 2

whiteyjason · 12-02-2003, 08:42 PM

I agree totally with the Defensive strategy, it seems to work for lots of people.

MasterGolem · 12-02-2003, 08:50 PM

I usually do for offensive and have to opponet on the run. I kill his cleric with my witch, then use my dragon to kill his witch. While he try to kill the amazingly atrong dragon, I attk his knights and kill 1 and get the other to about 15 health. Then i use my knights and scouts to clean up the rest healing every 3 turns. I got about 86 wins and 14 loses so i think this works. (Of course dragon came out today so...

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Eldar[TN] · 12-02-2003, 10:19 PM

I've *never* lost to a defensive strategy opponent, my magi slaughtered them.

xyxaxyz2 · 12-03-2003, 12:29 AM

Some of you seem to never have played a really good player. I have, they all use defensive strategies and they know how to win.

AzN_GuY · 12-03-2003, 05:39 AM

Back on the idea of not moving, you need to draw the enemy to you, it just doesnt work to try and run the enemy off the map... minor incursions are one thing, but overall offensives get you killed

Choi · 12-03-2003, 09:18 AM

I like to start defensive and draw the other player in if I can, but use a layout that is flexible enough to go on the offensive.

Eldar[TN] · 12-03-2003, 11:28 AM

Well I'll try starting with a defensive formation and playing defensively o0

Haelix · 12-03-2003, 12:02 PM

As AzN_GuY mentioned, you have to provoke your enemies into attacking you. The scout is excellent at this. Picking off magic units that are initially unprotected, or the ones that try to attack you is his main purpose. Because of his range he can stay close to your defensive wall. I imagine Gold accounts would be even more deadly like this because they can have two scouts.

Once a couple of their magic units are dead, they have no choice but to start an offensive with their knights and move them up into the range of your lightning ward.

The only problem is when you have two defensive players facing off. :] You get a very slow game.

Eldar[TN] · 12-03-2003, 01:00 PM

I have about the same win : loss ratio with an all out rush and a defensive formation. The only diffrence is the defensive one makes the game take twice as long.

teh_Sheep · 12-03-2003, 03:27 PM

At the moment I'm using a rush form, and it only works against newbies who are easily overwhelmed. Against a seasoned player I can hold my own, but I'm just prolonging the inevitable, the 'inevitable' being my loss.

Link_X · 12-03-2003, 03:42 PM

Right....
it is just about imposible to even get 10 knights so dont even worry about it

12-01-2003, 07:36 PM	#1
Haelix Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 36	Defensive strategy is best. I'll admit, I'm relatively new to TAO. I've been here for about a week. In that time though, I've garnered a 16-0-0 record on Armageddon, even though I didn't read the instructions before starting my first game. I just mentioned that to show that I might be competent enough to write this. Basically, I think that the defensive strategy is tops in the non-gold games (i.e. no special units). This is because of the recovery time. It is not possible to move units up to attack simultaneously, however, a properly constructed defensive formation can meet every attacker with many defenders. Secondly, I think that people underestimate the value of running away. They'll think that a unit that has been severly damaged is dead anyway, and run it up to "at least hurt the opponent" before dying. If they instead ran it back behind the lines, after a few cleric heals, they'll have a fresh unit again. Thirdly, I thought about fighting an army of 10 properly played knights with my current army, and shuddered at the thought. I think I'd get devastated. They can just deal out damage too quick and are too tough to kill with that 25% armor to stop. In all of this I could be wrong, and I'm waiting to be enlightened by you, so respond. Haelix

12-01-2003, 08:25 PM	#2
AzN_GuY You Want Fries With That? Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Far side of the moon Posts: 1,227	yea, ten knights... with a few enchantresses, yes lol, this is where the enchantress would shine. you get even two of those units out there and half the knights are down, with a few support units, the knight army is helpless. __________________ What's a Mod?

12-01-2003, 08:30 PM	#4
AzN_GuY You Want Fries With That? Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Far side of the moon Posts: 1,227	dont have 2 __________________ What's a Mod?

12-02-2003, 08:42 PM	#5
whiteyjason Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: any where you want it Posts: 8	I agree I agree totally with the Defensive strategy, it seems to work for lots of people. __________________ ______________________________ Whitey ______________________________

12-03-2003, 05:39 AM	#9
AzN_GuY You Want Fries With That? Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Far side of the moon Posts: 1,227	Back on the idea of not moving, you need to draw the enemy to you, it just doesnt work to try and run the enemy off the map... minor incursions are one thing, but overall offensives get you killed __________________ What's a Mod?

12-01-2003, 08:28 PM	#3
Haelix Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 36	Do you use 2 Enchantresses in your standard army? :]

12-02-2003, 08:50 PM	#6
MasterGolem Official Rev pwn3r Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Pluto... near Aro23r =P Posts: 419	I usually do for offensive and have to opponet on the run. I kill his cleric with my witch, then use my dragon to kill his witch. While he try to kill the amazingly atrong dragon, I attk his knights and kill 1 and get the other to about 15 health. Then i use my knights and scouts to clean up the rest healing every 3 turns. I got about 86 wins and 14 loses so i think this works. (Of course dragon came out today so... )

12-02-2003, 10:19 PM	#7
Eldar[TN] The Newbies Lead. Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 282	I've never lost to a defensive strategy opponent, my magi slaughtered them.

12-03-2003, 12:29 AM	#8
xyxaxyz2 Exist Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 5,116	Some of you seem to never have played a really good player. I have, they all use defensive strategies and they know how to win.

12-03-2003, 09:18 AM	#10
Choi KOTR Clan Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Great Lakes Posts: 413	I like to start defensive and draw the other player in if I can, but use a layout that is flexible enough to go on the offensive.

12-03-2003, 11:28 AM	#11
Eldar[TN] The Newbies Lead. Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 282	Well I'll try starting with a defensive formation and playing defensively o0

12-03-2003, 12:02 PM	#12
Haelix Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 36	As AzN_GuY mentioned, you have to provoke your enemies into attacking you. The scout is excellent at this. Picking off magic units that are initially unprotected, or the ones that try to attack you is his main purpose. Because of his range he can stay close to your defensive wall. I imagine Gold accounts would be even more deadly like this because they can have two scouts. Once a couple of their magic units are dead, they have no choice but to start an offensive with their knights and move them up into the range of your lightning ward. The only problem is when you have two defensive players facing off. :] You get a very slow game.

12-03-2003, 01:00 PM	#13
Eldar[TN] The Newbies Lead. Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 282	I have about the same win : loss ratio with an all out rush and a defensive formation. The only diffrence is the defensive one makes the game take twice as long.

12-03-2003, 03:27 PM	#14
teh_Sheep Angel of Death Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lost in the Garden of Eden Posts: 106	At the moment I'm using a rush form, and it only works against newbies who are easily overwhelmed. Against a seasoned player I can hold my own, but I'm just prolonging the inevitable, the 'inevitable' being my loss. __________________

12-03-2003, 03:42 PM	#15
Link_X ZeldaGameFreak Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 13	imposible Right.... it is just about imposible to even get 10 knights so dont even worry about it

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