Scoring and Ranking

Aro23r · 11-23-2003, 09:36 PM

How is the scoring done, when determining rank? It looks kinda random to me right now......

Hydrant · 11-24-2003, 12:06 AM

yeah how DO rankings work? im confused.. i have a good win-loss record but... im not there...

iono w/e

Jeffery · 09-02-2004, 12:25 AM

You mean Aro didn't know????

*Gasp*

SlipknotiCX · 09-02-2004, 12:26 AM

lmao!

Cavour · 09-02-2004, 12:27 AM

What a n00b.

kensai · 09-02-2004, 02:46 AM

It would seem that games are for a total of 32 pts. If the two players have equal rating, they both risk 16 pts in a winner-takes-all bout. The amount of points risked goes up or down by 1 by a difference of 25 ratings, to a minimum of zero and maximum of 32. If the game ends as a draw, each player gets the average of the results of a win and a loss.

For example, if two players face each other at a bout, one with rating 1,000 and one with rating 1,200, there's a difference of 200 pts in ratings. Divided by 25 gives eight. So, the points risked are:

lower-rated player: 16 - 8 = 8
higher-rated player: 16 + 8 = 24

The results would be, for the lower-rated player:
* lower-rated player wins: 1000 - 8 + 32 = 1024
* lower-rated player loses: 1000 - 8 = 992
* draw: (1024 + 992) / 2 =1008

The formula predicts these correctly. However, for the higher-rated player, things get a bit messy.

* win: 1200 - 24 +32 = 1208 (actual: 1205)
* loss: 1200 - 24 = 1186 (actual: 1183)
* draw: (1205 + 1183) / 2 = 1194 (correct)

Apparently there's a damper effect here to make bottom feeding harder?

Hugh Junit · 09-02-2004, 03:04 AM

Uhhhhhh....thanks, kensai.

Merforga · 09-02-2004, 04:10 AM

http://www.digisonline.com/tactics/ranking/

Ranking calculator there =D

kensai · 09-02-2004, 08:44 AM

There's one on this site as well. But it only gives the numbers, not the formula - where's the fun in that?

Dark*Demon · 09-02-2004, 08:48 AM

kensai you know this thread is older then you right?

Aro23r · 09-02-2004, 09:45 AM

It's done like this.

Edit: kensai, look at the post date for this thread.

Glamdring · 09-02-2004, 01:15 PM

No wonder there's such a clump around 1200 and 1400. It's like a hill that gets steeper at those two points. So people can get just about to that point, but it's harder to keep getting higher.

Dark*Demon · 09-02-2004, 01:21 PM

umm yea lets go with that

Medemia · 09-02-2004, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kensai

* win: 1200 - 24 +32 = 1208 (actual: 1205)
* loss: 1200 - 24 = 1186 (actual: 1183)
* draw: (1205 + 1183) / 2 = 1194 (correct)

I'm not a math major, but apparently that new math really has me all messed up. I could have sworn that 1200-24 was 1176. I need to go get me edjumacated again.

Merforga · 09-03-2004, 02:31 AM

It's really hard to get to 2000...we just had 2 players get to 1900 a couple of days ago.

11-23-2003, 09:36 PM	#1
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11-24-2003, 12:06 AM	#2
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09-02-2004, 12:26 AM	#4
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09-02-2004, 12:27 AM	#5
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09-02-2004, 02:46 AM	#6
kensai Grey Panther Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 390	It would seem that games are for a total of 32 pts. If the two players have equal rating, they both risk 16 pts in a winner-takes-all bout. The amount of points risked goes up or down by 1 by a difference of 25 ratings, to a minimum of zero and maximum of 32. If the game ends as a draw, each player gets the average of the results of a win and a loss. For example, if two players face each other at a bout, one with rating 1,000 and one with rating 1,200, there's a difference of 200 pts in ratings. Divided by 25 gives eight. So, the points risked are: lower-rated player: 16 - 8 = 8 higher-rated player: 16 + 8 = 24 The results would be, for the lower-rated player: * lower-rated player wins: 1000 - 8 + 32 = 1024 * lower-rated player loses: 1000 - 8 = 992 * draw: (1024 + 992) / 2 =1008 The formula predicts these correctly. However, for the higher-rated player, things get a bit messy. * win: 1200 - 24 +32 = 1208 (actual: 1205) * loss: 1200 - 24 = 1186 (actual: 1183) * draw: (1205 + 1183) / 2 = 1194 (correct) Apparently there's a damper effect here to make bottom feeding harder? __________________ Unit designs

09-02-2004, 04:10 AM	#8
Merforga Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The land down under o_O Posts: 480	http://www.digisonline.com/tactics/ranking/ Ranking calculator there =D __________________ "I am not real" Enchanty King Founder of SG Recruits Webmaster of Official TAO Fansite

09-02-2004, 08:44 AM	#9
kensai Grey Panther Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 390	There's one on this site as well. But it only gives the numbers, not the formula - where's the fun in that? __________________ Unit designs

09-02-2004, 08:48 AM	#10
Dark*Demon Goodbye. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: in your house you have a nice warm bed Posts: 2,028	kensai you know this thread is older then you right?

09-02-2004, 01:15 PM	#12
Glamdring hawtchatz69 with a twist Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,962	No wonder there's such a clump around 1200 and 1400. It's like a hill that gets steeper at those two points. So people can get just about to that point, but it's harder to keep getting higher. __________________ Love is a full state of being, not a fucking emotion.

09-02-2004, 01:21 PM	#13
Dark*Demon Goodbye. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: in your house you have a nice warm bed Posts: 2,028	umm yea lets go with that

09-03-2004, 02:31 AM	#15
Merforga Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: The land down under o_O Posts: 480	It's really hard to get to 2000...we just had 2 players get to 1900 a couple of days ago. __________________ "I am not real" Enchanty King Founder of SG Recruits Webmaster of Official TAO Fansite

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